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    PayPal sent for 9A driver + shipping to Finland, 44.45 Euro.
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    Hi DW -

    I just wanted to verify that your Paypal ID is the same as your listed email address. I'd like to order one of the 9A drivers soon. Thanks, MN

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    PM sent

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    Default Re: High efficient 5A/9A Buck Converter for SST-50, SST-90

    for:

    9A Buck Converter, standard version.

    Danke und Gruss, Peter

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    Hi DW,

    Can I use your P7 9A driver with a potentiometer to drive 3 XML in parallel with 2 IMR cells? The 3 XML will need 3A each, so your 9A driver is perfect and the IMR will provide the amperage. Vf for 3A for the XML is 3.35V so the 2 IMRs will provide 7.4V at least. Does this sound ok?

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    As I always say: never drive LEDs in parallel on a single current source.
    A slight difference in Vf of each LED (0.1V) can cause each LED getting different currents, for example:

    LED1: 5A
    LED2: 3A
    LED3: 1A
    Total: 9A

    So the first LED can be overdriven and will be destroyed after some time. Then the 9A will be divided between the two LEDs left. So they will be overdriven as well. After some time all LEDs will be destroyed.

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    Thank you very much for your explanation! Guess its wiring in series now
    Last edited by xed888; 05-20-2011 at 09:36 AM.

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    Got the driver, thanks!

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    Hello,

    I've finally got my driver installed to a SST90 @ 9A - impressive.

    I have a question though:

    What happens when the input voltage drops below 6V?

    Your spec sheet states that the minium voltage is 6V, but not what happens below this.

    I ask the question because I'm looking at battery options for a 2C maglite. At 3V per battery on any chemistry, the current draw is just over 6A. That's too much for AW's LiCo (PCB cuts out at 5.8A on his latest 18650's), but the LiMN would be fine. The only problem with IMR cells is they're unprotected.

    If your driver cuts out at 6V, then running two IMR cells in series will be fine, as neither will drop below 3V each (assuming both cells are charged separately, same age, same production batch, same charger etc).

    My bench PSU can only deliver 5A, so I cannot test this myself.

    Many Thanks.
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    Anyone?
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    I don't have the driver, but I would assume that when you go below 6V, it will not be able to deliver the rated current. most likely the current will start dropping when the voltage drops, until at some point, a part of the circuit doesn't work anymore. usually this is not a good situation for the driver to be in...

    Just try it and see what happens I would say ;-)

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    That's correct. The current will drop

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    What amount to Paypal for 1x adjustable 9A driver with 2x pot wired, as discussed incl. shipping Netherlands?

    Walter

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    Default Re: High efficient 5A/9A Buck Converter for SST-50, SST-90

    OK.

    After some testing....and without wishing to hijack this thread...I took a 6v SLA battery out of a 12v lantern, and hooked it up to the flashlight. I ran the battery down until it passed 6v and started taking voltage and current measurements.

    The voltage and current at the battery went down to 5.3 volts and 7.2 amps before the light started to flicker and the converter started to whine.

    I put a second fresh 6v SLA on the light after this to ensure it wasn't the converter overheating - and it wasn't. The light fired up without flicker on the higher voltage.

    5.71v 7.1a = 40.5w
    5.3v 7.2a = 38.16w

    So the converter was still trying to regulate to the very end; the current didn't drop as expected, but the overall power did.
    Last edited by KillingTime; 06-15-2011 at 09:12 AM.
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    Flickering led, that's what i saw as well when the voltage drops to around 5.5v.

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    5.3v is a good figure for me because that equates to 2.65v across each unprotected battery, which is well within the safe discharge level for an IMR. When the flickering starts, I'll shut the flashlight down. Just pulled the trigger on two 18650 IMRs from AW. 1600mAH will provide about 12 minutes of runtime, but that's not a problem either, as the light gets too hot to hold after 3 minutes. LOL.
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    I need a 9A Buck Converter standard version.
    PM sent.

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    ID 0M259997RV341930D
    9 A. Buck Converter Standard Version.

    Thank you. Antonio

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    Arrived this morning.
    Thank you.

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    Hello everyone.

    I have used the 9A buck driver succesfully for what must be close to a year. I am wanting to build a couple more mag mods using the 9A buck with a 10K ohm potentiometer this time. If anyone can recommend where they purchased thier potentiometer, and especially any pictures of where you mounted it inside the flashlight, I would be very greatful!

    Der Wichtel, thank you for the great products!
    Eddie

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    Default Re: High efficient 5A/9A Buck Converter for SST-50, SST-90

    you can drill a hole above the switch hole for the potentiometer

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    Hi everyone,

    is it possible to use one driver for 2 and morge SST-90 LEDs?

    regards

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    First post has the datasheet linked.
    If your Battery is >2v over your Led voltage you can drive up to 4 Leds in series.
    Last edited by pyro; 07-25-2011 at 09:21 AM.

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    yes i get it ... thank you pyro.

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    Default Re: High efficient 5A/9A Buck Converter for SST-50, SST-90

    I've read through the thread and had one question regarding the adjustable version of the driver. A 10k pot is recommended, but does that allow variable dimming or simply switch between 5A and 9A mode? If the latter, can the same be accomplished with an ON-OFF-ON rocker by putting a 10k fixed resistor (or other recommended value) on one of the positions? Recommended wattage?

    Thanks for the info, and I'll likely be ordering very soon (please PM PayPal information).

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    You can adjust the current between around 0.7A to 9A with the pot.

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    SST-90 kit; standard (high) SST-90 socket, heat sink, adjustable 9A driver.

    56+3.45=59.45 euro
    Rando

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    So for thermal management, you make your paste of epoxy and aluminum oxide, mix and put a gob of paste down on the heatsink and put the driver (side opposite of coiled copper) on the paste/heatsink....right? Makes me think you will cause the driver to short-circuit

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    That is rather unlikely. The heatsink is anodized and furthermore there is still enough space filled with potting compound between heatsink and driver. You don't have to push it down very hard so that the components get in contact with the heatsink. Since the driver doesn't produce that much heat the potting compound as thermal path is already enough.

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    Default Re: High efficient 5A/9A Buck Converter for SST-50, SST-90

    Quote Originally Posted by Der Wichtel View Post
    That is rather unlikely. The heatsink is anodized and furthermore there is still enough space filled with potting compound between heatsink and driver. You don't have to push it down very hard so that the components get in contact with the heatsink. Since the driver doesn't produce that much heat the potting compound as thermal path is already enough.
    Ah, but doesn't the aluminum in the potting compound conduct electricity?

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