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    I certainly don't think its a good deal if you don't already have other tools using the battery and charger but it seems like a great deal if you already have everything else.

    I have both Makitas 14.4 NiMH system and the 18 volt LXT system. I did notice Ryobi's Lithiums don't seem that much better but they do on the Makitas. My 18 volt, 3 amp hour Lithium is just a tad smaller than the 14.4 volt, 2.4 amp hour NiMH but it just over 1/2 the weight. Makita claims you should be able to get 4X as many charges as well.

    When not in my drill or saws, my Makita batteries overdrive a ghetto 12 volt, 50 watt MR11 bike light. From what I've read, the 18 volts is 313% brighter than if it was on 12 volts. It does start to melt things if left on for a few minutes ... I'd love a clean HID light for the Makita

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickypanecatyl View Post
    I certainly don't think its a good deal if you don't already have other tools using the battery and charger but it seems like a great deal if you already have everything else.
    Exactly. First of all you will NOT get two lithium Ryobi batteries for $89. somebody is mistaken. You only get one.

    Secondly, you really have to watch out. Ryobi makes TWO different lithium ONE+ batteries - the "high capacity (LOL) 2.4ah pack or a cheaper 2ah pack. This whole lithium thing is just a scam by Ryobi. It has no advantages over other chemistries from decades ago...(besides being "20% lighter", big deal) It's just an excuse to paint their tools bright green and make people think their old tools aren't as cool anymore.

    So, the cost of this light = $49.99 + $89.99 for one battery + $29.99 for charger for a total of $169.97 at a bare minimum. Deal = lame unless you're already using the ONE+ system.
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    I seem to have a 4.5 ah Ryobi lithium battery. At least that's what the label on the bottom of the Pack indicates. That's what I got for $89.99, at least what the pack says....

    Anyone able to shed some light on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiMaster2003 View Post
    I seem to have a 4.5 ah Ryobi lithium battery. At least that's what the label on the bottom of the Pack indicates. That's what I got for $89.99, at least what the pack says....

    Anyone able to shed some light on this?
    Ryobi only makes three "ONE+" batteries. (in 18v anyway) One is the NiCd - Ive seen them from 1.2 to 1.7 ah. The other is the "big" lithium at 2.4ah "double the runtime", and then they have a cheaper 2ah lithium battery. Most of the current tool kits that include 2 batteries, include 1 big battery and one small battery. Also all the garden tools with the lithium batteries, only come with the small battery. That doesn't make any sense...

    Ryobi could have a pretty cool interchangeable 18v system going on, but they keep it at the crap level so it doesn't compete with other tools like Ridgid.

    Edit: Another note, Ryobi does not actually make any products sold in North America. They only sell their label to other companies who relabel them. I have found "Ryobi" tools at Harbor Freight for half of what Home Depot is asking for the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatteryCharger View Post
    Exactly. First of all you will NOT get two lithium Ryobi batteries for $89. somebody is mistaken. You only get one.

    Secondly, you really have to watch out. Ryobi makes TWO different lithium ONE+ batteries - the "high capacity (LOL) 2.4ah pack or a cheaper 2ah pack. This whole lithium thing is just a scam by Ryobi. It has no advantages over other chemistries from decades ago...(besides being "20% lighter", big deal) It's just an excuse to paint their tools bright green and make people think their old tools aren't as cool anymore.

    So, the cost of this light = $49.99 + $89.99 for one battery + $29.99 for charger for a total of $169.97 at a bare minimum. Deal = lame unless you're already using the ONE+ system.
    I picked up the lithium battery twin pack Monday when I purchased the light. The Ryobi part # is P106. They were on the same shelf as the chargers at the Rowlett, TX Home Depot. The price was $89.99.


    Edited to add: The batteries nor the literature that came with them have any mention of ah, the battery is marked P103, 18.0V - 24Wh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mm38 View Post
    I picked up the lithium battery twin pack Monday when I purchased the light. The Ryobi part # is P106. They were on the same shelf as the chargers at the Rowlett, TX Home Depot. The price was $89.99.

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    Ah, those are the low capacity "compact" batteries. They are only 2ah. They only outperform the NiCd cells by 300mah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BatteryCharger View Post
    Ah, those are the low capacity "compact" batteries. They are only 2ah. They only outperform the NiCd cells by 300mah.
    They are very small compared to the NiCd One + battery I have. They were the only lithium 18V I could find in the store. In my edit to my previous post I mentioned the individual batteries are marked P103. I actually went back and forth trying to decide whether or not to buy another NiCd or get the lithium twin pack.

    But the compact battery does make it a lot easier for me to use the drill in tight spaces.


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    Actually I was wrong, the compact battery is only 1.5ah according to the display at home depot. The NiCd is 1.7ah.
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    I believe anything ending with 0 cent on the end at Home Depot means on-hand only and they're not getting anymore in.

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    There is a drop in that really bright and its about 800lumens. Its pure white light and i have given one to my uncle and my dad and they love em. It has 48 nichia gs leds and it only is 3w. So if you are using a powertool battery its going to last 5+ hours on full brightness and is pure white. The throw plus ultra flood is awesome and gives off minimal heat so the mosquitoes and bugs are going to keep at bay.

    I have a review on here with them so you have to just search nichia worklight. They drop in any ryobi 18v light or dewalt 18v light with no modding and will add battery life and put out more than a car headlight.

    Hope this helps as its only 20bucks on ebay and these guys are awesome quality and great prices and I can vouch. Oh yeah I said 3w@800lumens and 5+ hrs runtime.

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    I just got one of these lights with the intention to modify it to use with an AC power supply. I have an inverter in my truck, so I would be able to simply plug it into the outlet under the dashboard. However I dont know what I need to install in the light to knock down the 120v to 18v to allow it to be plugged in. can anyone offer some insight? I know some people on here have done this mod before with other spotlights... thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldspice10 View Post
    I just got one of these lights with the intention to modify it to use with an AC power supply. I have an inverter in my truck, so I would be able to simply plug it into the outlet under the dashboard. However I dont know what I need to install in the light to knock down the 120v to 18v to allow it to be plugged in. can anyone offer some insight? I know some people on here have done this mod before with other spotlights... thanks!
    You'd need an 18v power supply of about 4 or 5 amps. I'm not sure if that could handle the startup surge or not. You would be much better off to find a 12v HID light and plug that directly into the cigarette lighter. (It's possible that this Ryobi light could run directly off of 12 volts)
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    A running car is more similar to a 14.4v battery. The "12v nominal" system runs at 14 to 15v with the engine on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oldspice10 View Post
    I just got one of these lights with the intention to modify it to use with an AC power supply. I have an inverter in my truck, so I would be able to simply plug it into the outlet under the dashboard. However I dont know what I need to install in the light to knock down the 120v to 18v to allow it to be plugged in. can anyone offer some insight? I know some people on here have done this mod before with other spotlights... thanks!
    IMHO you are better off buying the battery pack(s) + charger and plugging that into your 120V inverter. Charge the cells in your truck and just power the light with the charged packs.

    I was at walmart this weekend and they had a dozen Stanley HIDs on the shelf. At $69 it includes a 12V lighter cord... thats a better option I think than trying to mod the Ryobi.

    The big question mark is how well the Ryobi ballast runs at voltages as low as 12.5V, and is it worth the effort... when plug & play solutions are readily available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kramer5150 View Post
    IMHO you are better off buying the battery pack(s) + charger and plugging that into your 120V inverter. Charge the cells in your truck and just power the light with the charged packs.

    Kramer nailed it! This is far better than trying to bring 120V down to 18V. The optional car charger charges in one hour, so you'll be recharging one battery at about the same rate that the other in the light depletes. Two batteries would likely be sufficient while three batteries would provide a substantial buffer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    Kramer nailed it! This is far better than trying to bring 120V down to 18V...
    oldspice... you can do what you're asking but you need a step down transformer 120V in => 18V out. And you'll need a rectifier circuit to convert the 18AC to DC.

    I spent months looking for a 120V=>26V/5A step down transformer for a tube amp. I eventually found one at a military surplus www retailer, so odd voltage transformers are out there if you hunt and peck for them.

    IMHO it doesn't seem like its worth the effort.
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    This is exactly what you'd need to run it off 120v:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/power-supply-and...item4a9da59893
    But 82 bucks...ouch!
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    I picked one up today. I have two of the smaller Li-Ion packs with a lot of use on them. We will see once it gets dark how this light performs. So far playing with it inside I am very impressed.
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    Does anyone have any pics of the ouput? I have my Thor with an HID mod and I'm running a modified Bosch automobile ballast which gets the output to ~50W, but it weighs a lot. This sounds like a nice little torch to carry around.

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    Is this light brighter then the Stanley Hid 0109 hid spot light?

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    Default Re: Ryobi 35W, 18V HID

    I bought one -- And took it apart.


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    As for output, my modded Thor is brighter when I have it running in the 50W mode. But this spotlight is sweet!!! For the size and the battery swapping capabilities, I'm happy. I think you could put a 55W slim-line ballast in this and really make this perform.

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    I have a lot of Ryobi One stuff, so this was a no brainer for me.
    It was the best $50 I spent on a light yet. Instant on, well balanced, and bright.

    I was tempted to take it apart, so thank you Jazz. You did a much better job than I would have. Looks like a car ballast and D2S bulb.
    I'm gonna have to try and find a 4300K bulb to swap in there. I think it will be much more pleasing to look at then. Although the bright white output is pretty cool.

    I'll try and get some outdoor shots tonight compared to my Xenide 20W and Generic Chinese 35W.

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    I like that it has such a wide input voltage range. I took an old battery and removed some of the cells and added a power cable coming out so that I can operate the light on a 12V source in needed.
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    I have to wonder if the beam could be made tighter by centering the actual HID bulb better in the reflector.

    What do you guys think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingofwylietx View Post
    I have to wonder if the beam could be made tighter by centering the actual HID bulb better in the reflector.

    What do you guys think?
    Perhaps that is an illusion due to the angle of the camera or something, Mine is properly centered and makes a great beam.
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    Sorry about the night shots. I got called out of town. I'll put them up in the morning.
    I have shots of the Ryobi, Xenide 20W, and my chinese generic 35W.

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    Good looking spotlight, would buy one if I had more ryobi tools. battery packs are bit expensive imo.


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    Well, you've certainly tempted ME! Kathleen gave me a Ryobi One+ set last Christmas, so I already have two batteries, charger, drill, trim saw, recip saw and basic incand work light. This will be a really nice addition. And if/when I get one, I will be very interested in where to pick up an affordable 4200K bulb.
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    Well, I changed my mind about posting the beamshots of the P716 Ryobi HID because I can no longer recommend it to anyone.

    Since I originally bought the first one, I have been through THREE! of them. They seem to work OK for the first day or two then they no longer want to start up. I tried 2 or 3 different charged batteries. It will flicker and try to start a few times and then nothing at all any more. Same problem with each one. Maybe just my luck of the draw. I will call to see if there is a recall or know problem with them.

    I bought it with my Home D card, so returns have been painless. This last one is going back today for a refund, I quit. To bad... it was a bright light and really was what I was looking for. Doing power outage service calls would have been a breeze with these. Also, you drop a $50 HID off the balcony and get pissed at yourself, but you can get another one right away. You drop a $300 20W Xenide off the balcony, and you didn't make any money that day.

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    DAMN!!! I was looking forward to adding an HID. This was the closest one based on cost/power/weight. Stanley's SLB design is too heavy and short running with storage drain. I was going to pick up a Ryobi based on your beam shots. Now I'll have to keep searching...

    Appreciate you taking time to share your experience with other CPFers.

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    Well, I changed my mind about posting the beamshots of the P716 Ryobi HID because I can no longer recommend it to anyone...

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