Collecting is all about what you don't have
They had a good run. I still have a box of them that I kept when I replaced everything with CFLs.
This should probably be in Fixed Lighting forum.
That video seemed.... biased.... (to say the least). Of course, they had to make a huge story out of a few hundred people losing their current jobs... They need to learn economics, for all the jobs lost in the incan business the same number will pop up in a CFL, LED, or halogen factory. The story SHOULD have been about the laws, as those might actually affect me in some way, I really don't care that some guy making a ridiculous amount of money to perform a menial task has to find another job.
That said, I'm kind of hopeful this will push high CRI LEDs forward...
I've been stocking up for awhile now, but I need to get much more.
This is sad and sickening that the government can get away with this.
I won't have CFL's in my house. Buy all the incans you can to prevent our landfills from filling up with mercury from CFL's.
And yea MSNBC is basically like bringing totalitarian communism into your living room.
G.E is not the only manufacturer to produce Incandescent bulbs.
Most bulbs I buy are from either Osram or Philips so I'm not worried at all.
Last edited by wyager; 09-24-2010 at 12:50 PM.
Question though - with incans there is built in demand for when they burn out.
What about with LEDs and CFLs? Will they just last forever?
In my experience CFL's burn out faster than incans. CFL's are supposed to have a longer lifespan then incans but that is rated for constant on time. Turning the light on and off greatly reduces the lifespan of the CFL. If it were left on for the entire time then it would last longer but that is really not practical.
Please note that high-efficiency incandescent (halogen) bulbs have not been banned!
Regarding CFls... they go bad because of the electrolytic filter cap before the inverter - overheats and fails after few hundreds hours (or less). If you use fluorescents bulbs with inductive ballasts in the fixture (possibly with a good re-phasing oil capacitor), they are going to last forever.
Last edited by Ray_of_Light; 09-24-2010 at 05:13 PM.
VENI, COLLUXI, VICI.
Economic classes are, like alcohol, acceptable and even good in moderation. However, there is a historical trend that once wealth (not income!) stratification becomes too strained, political violence happens. This is bad. If you want to know how bad, consider the French revolution, or the rise of communism in Russia.
Eric, I thought apathy with a side-order of ignorance was the #1 necessity for that.
Variation in income according to skill has been proven time and time again to be necessary for the proper operation of an economy, but it's equally important that the money the more skilled make gets spent and not hoarded. Plus, keep in mind that france during the french revolution was mercantilist- a system of economy that we now know to be fundamentally flawed that said that there was a fixed amount of wealth in the world. The more you hoarded, the better off you were. Again, it's because they didn't spend the money they made. (The also set up ridiculous tariffs- those have also been proven to be bad in a strictly economic sense).
Last edited by wyager; 09-25-2010 at 05:59 PM.
I have taken most of my incans out of service, haven't bought any in close to 10 years now, CFLs work fine, cost less to operate and make less heat and don't need to be replaced as often.
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Psalm 112:4 Light shines in the darkness for the godly. They are generous, compassionate, and righteous.
Funny how this topic came up again
Hoarding mains rated incandescents is humorous when you consider halogen incandescent bulbs (30% more efficient) have become well established in the market already
If someone likes the look of CFL lighting, despite their surprisingly short lifetimes since they were not rated for normal use being typically turned on/off, and as long as they don't break while unscrewing, or drop and explode the toxic materials all over, then they are free to buy them. To force the outlaw of manufacturing of incans in the USA when there is still a demand for them is insane, and will make people buy them from other countries who still have jobs making them. It's more fallout from the fictitious man caused global warming wealth redistribution scheme.
Aren't you glad you asked?
Did anyone else notice that they showed a clip of an escalade with HID headlights when the narrator said "more efficient halogen bulbs?" It seems like they don't even know the difference between the two.
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As for whether it's sad and sickening that the government can get away with passing regulations, I suggest you leave politics out of the discussion before I or someone else take the bait.
Last edited by fyrstormer; 09-26-2010 at 09:31 PM.
Anyone else get a laugh?Originally Posted by xxx
Its such a strong characterization...gives the impression some-one at fox news (faux news) made up that talking point, 'msnbc is totalitarian communism,' and is gonna run a goggle search in a week to see how many times it was repeated.
Communism (aiming towards common ownership, open access to services, shared standards of living)
-is on the opposite side of the political spectrum from-
Totalitarianism (an absolute rule, by individual or group, who control all and make all decisions)
Last edited by Linger; 09-27-2010 at 09:35 PM.
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Higher efficiency is a good goal... in previous years the population's electricity needs have begun to "out strip" the State's energy suppliers ability to provide making "brown outs" more common place during summer here, living on the fringe of an electricity grid means we experience complete power outages 2~4 times per year and by people making our energy work smarter (CFL's) and not harder (inefficient incandescents) there is simply more "juice on tap" to share around... and that's a good thing!