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    Yeah, and then some makers of self-balancing boards advertise that their boards are having a Samsung battery inside. ;-)

    On the upside, I'm using a Tronic charger as my main charger, and it hasn't failed me so far. It was only 9 Eur, has 4 charging slots for AAA/AA/C/D cells and 2 for 9V's, but I only use 2 at a time because it regularly misses end-of-charge with more than 2 cells inserted due to a lower charging current. It only charges at 1 amp max., but it does so without any problems. I generally didn't have such a bad luck with chargers so far, but I don't have really smart ones actually with various settings, display et al. Oh, wait, I do have one, but that one DOES have a problem with slot 3 out of 4 where the discharge resistor seems to have broken. This is a more advanced Tronic which even has a display, but, as it seems, it's also more prone to failure.
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    I am using an 8 year old 6+2 slot Tronic charger myself and it works great, I bought it from eBay, I just ordered another one as a backup as the new Tronic chargers appear to be of poor quality.

    I have had 1 with a bad channel and 2 that have blown-up.

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    Interesting. I wonder if Lidl in Australia or London carry them as well since I travel there a few times a year.
    I want to try the C and D ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodLust View Post
    Interesting. I wonder if Lidl in Australia or London carry them as well since I travel there a few times a year.
    I want to try the C and D ones.
    The Lidl website has a store locator, once you set your location you can see the leflet for your local Lidl, Last Thursday was when the battery`s were in my Lidl store.

    http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/index.htm

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    I tried a few batches of cells for Aldi and Lidl neither were great though Aldi ones seemed to hold up better. Discharge is a problem on both honestly they are completely outclassed by cells like Odec (you can get them on Amazon) my advice is not to bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Baz View Post
    I tried a few batches of cells for Aldi and Lidl neither were great though Aldi ones seemed to hold up better. Discharge is a problem on both honestly they are completely outclassed by cells like Odec (you can get them on Amazon) my advice is not to bother.
    Never had a problem with Tronic battery`s and i have 24x AA 2300mah and 8x AA 2100mah and 6x D 4500mah and 4x AAA 950mah while they dont match the stated capacity, they are very close and i have never had any performance problems with them.

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    Today I picked up a dozen of the Tronic AA 2300mah cells & 8 of the Tronic AAA 950mah cells for £2.99 or about $3.60 per pack of 4.
    I am going to pop them on a few of my analysing chargers & see what the capacities are

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    Quote Originally Posted by bella-headlight View Post
    Today I picked up a dozen of the Tronic AA 2300mah cells & 8 of the Tronic AAA 950mah cells for £2.99 or about $3.60 per pack of 4.
    I am going to pop them on a few of my analysing chargers & see what the capacities are

    Did they have an Tronic LCD battery charger for sale?

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    Not that I saw John.
    They had AAA & AA (4 packs), C & D (twin packs) & 9v cells.
    BTW the cells say Tronic ENERGY eco, AA"s are 2300mah & the AAA"s are 950mah.
    These are the cells
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    Are these the "red" Tronic cells or a different cell ?
    I have 4 x AA"s in my MAHA C9000 & 8 x AA"s in 2 Lii-500"s as I type doing capacity tests.
    I can say already that I am impressed by the numbers so far as a few cells have finished their capacity tests & have gone back into re-charge mode.
    I should be posting my results on the AA"s in about an hour.
    The 8 x AAA"s will be tested tomorrow & I will again do half in the C9000 & half in a Lii-500 for comparison.
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    Well the results are in !
    Lii-500
    2393
    2400
    2408
    2378
    2402
    2396
    2380
    2408
    MAHA C9000
    2384
    2381
    2362
    2396
    The above are all 500ma discharge rates.
    So all 12 cells tested over the claimed 2300mah.
    Very consistent results with the 8 cells in the Lii-500"s averaging at 2396mah & all within 30ma of each other.
    The 4 cells in the C9000 averaging 2381mah & within 34ma of each other.
    The Lii-500 on average showed 15ma more capacity so extremely close to the C9000.
    Have I just been lucky with these cells ?
    Are they different cells to the "red" Tronics ?
    By testing 12 cells in 3 different chargers & getting such uniform results I must conclude that the results are accurate.
    I am very impressed with these cells although only time will tell how well they hold up in use but at 90 cents a cell they seem to be a steal.
    I hope that the AAA"s test out as well.

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    The RED Tronic cells where totally red, and it''s years since they were sold, I have 8 of them in regular use and they work great, though others don't like them.

    The 2300mah AAA ECO are quite old now, some members said that there was an 2400-2500? EDO AA version was released but had really bad capacity only 2/3 of stated capacity, maybe they were withdrawn I don't know.

    I am only getting between 880 and 915mah on the 950mah AAA ECO cells after a couple of refresh analyse cycles.

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    Ah I see so the cells I have bought are not the the "red" Tronic ones.
    I hadn"read this thread, i just saw Tronic re-chargeable cells cheap in my local Lidl, knew there had been mention of them on here & decided to try some.
    So the 2300mah "eco" cell is an old cell then.
    Do members normally get the sort of numbers for them that I have got ?
    I would say that based on my experience 880-915mah on a cell rated at 950mah is about spot on.
    We very rarely see the full capacity a manufacturer claims for a cell yet alone above it.
    In fact I have only seen it twice myself, these Tronic cells & Liitokala 5000mah 26650"s where just about everybody recorded over the claimed 5000mah.
    The 8 x AAA"s are in a Lii-500 & C9000 as we speak.
    it will be interesting what capacity they show.

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    Ah I see so the cells I have bought are not the the "red" Tronic ones.
    I hadn"read this thread, i just saw Tronic re-chargeable cells cheap in my local Lidl, knew there had been mention of them on here & decided to try some.
    So the 2300mah "eco" cell is an old cell then.
    Do members normally get the sort of numbers for them that I have got ?
    I would say that based on my experience 880-915mah on a cell rated at 950mah is about spot on.
    We very rarely see the full capacity a manufacturer claims for a cell yet alone above it.
    In fact I have only seen it twice myself, these Tronic cells & Liitokala 5000mah 26650"s where just about everybody recorded over the claimed 5000mah.
    The 8 x AAA"s are in a Lii-500 & C9000 as we speak.
    it will be interesting what capacity they show.

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    Default Re: Lidl red Tronic battery test

    It`s been a while since i tested my AA 2300mah cells, But your results seem very good, Even better than i think i got.

    I am dying to see your AAA 950mah results, I spent a couple of weeks tying to find the highest capacity and most AAA never reach their stated capacity.

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    AAA"s
    Lii-500
    854
    838
    847
    868
    C9000
    840
    851
    865
    838

    Lii-500 tested cells average mah = 852
    C9000 tested cells average mah = 846
    All the AAA"s were discharged at 500 ma.
    So not the same result as the AA"s, which all tested above the claimed capacity, with these AAA"s giving about 90% of claimed capacity which in my experience is quite usual.
    All the AA"s & AAA"s have only had one C-D-C cycle so I suppose it is possible that with a few more cycles the capacity may rise slightly but I am not going to charge them again until they need it.
    I must have got lucky with the AA"s.
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    Default Re: Lidl red Tronic battery test

    After 2 refresh/analyse i got the results below on my C9000, from the Tronic ECO AAA 950mah

    1: 913
    2: 885
    3: 901
    4: 900

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    Ok I have just popped 4 AAA"s back into a Lii-500 on "NOR" test, at 300ma charge & discharge.
    I will see what capacity I get this time ?

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    2nd capacity test using a Lii-500 on "NOR" test, 300ma charge & discharge
    862
    874
    883
    871
    Average capacity 873 so slightly higher than the first test, about 92% of manufactures claimed mah.

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    Manufactures usually say it take up to 5 charge/discharge cycles before you get maximum capacity, I was going to try break-in on the C9000 to see how close i could get to 950mah but it takes so long.

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    Default Re: Lidl red Tronic battery test

    I don"t expect to get 950mah from the cells so I am not going to bother chasing ma"s.
    If capacity rises slightly with futue charges so be it.
    I will just use the cells as 862-883mah for cells that cost 75p each is ok in my book.
    The AA"s seem like a very good buy IMO at the same 75p for a nearly 2400mah cell.

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    Default Re: Lidl red Tronic battery test

    I ran an break-in on the Tronic ECO AAA 950mah and got slightly better results than the refresh/analyse

    929mah
    904mah
    917mah
    916mah

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