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    I finally decided to get one of these beauties. Email sent inquiring haiku hi CRI.
    I just couldn't hold out anymore after all the good things I've read. My first McGizmo!

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    That's awesome. I just ordered my second Haiku yesterday. My first one is with the xm-l2 HV 1x123. I was going back and forth on the xp-g2 and Nichia and decided on the xp-g2 for this one. I decided to split the difference : warmer tint and higher CRI than the xml but higher output than the Nichia. Although in the end the lumen differences are hardly noticeable any way. And lets be honest, my Mcgizmo purchases are far from over as is often the case. Not that you care about my reasoning behind my choices but I'm just sharing the excitement with you !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robone View Post
    I'm just sharing the excitement with you !!!!
    Of course!!!

    And I was torn between the two myself. I'm already planning to order one with the xp-g2 but I'm going to wait until I receive the first one. I want to make certain that I love these lights. I'm 99.9% sure that I will though. Anyway congrats on your second order!!

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    As noted, I am wildly new to posting to CPF, however I need some McGizmo guidance so I am reaching out. I am getting prepared to take the dive on a Haiku and I need a little advice. I have researched some great threads on McGizmo and appreciate the depth of postings and really like Don's work.

    With all of that said, I am looking at a 119v, 3v HIVE, 1X123 configuration. The light would replace at Nichia 219 EDC that I have carried for some time as I love the CRI of that LED and prioritize rendering over throw. Even with that said, if I really want to go down the rabbit hole, and double down for a throw option, what is the runtime if were to add that stunning Makai head to my pre-stated Haiku config? I believe, according to the config chart I am within the compatibility realm, but I just do not have a feel for run time. There are some applications where I need some raw but elegant throw and I like the concept of working on a single platform. Thank you for indulging a newbie.

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    Hello and welcome @jyak .... I am not exactly sure I understand what you are asking ?

    The Haiku and the Makai primarily differ in terms of the reflector and size of the bezel, which will not affect the runtime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    Hello and welcome @jyak .... I am not exactly sure I understand what you are asking ?

    The Haiku and the Makai primarily differ in terms of the reflector and size of the bezel, which will not affect the runtime.
    Archimedes, thank you for the guidance. You answered my question perfectly. I had read through Don's compatibility chart and was fairly certain that the two units would work fine, but was also concerned that I might have missed something important from an electrical standpoint as I am not as familiar with the McGizmo product. Additionally, I would have hated to make a very expensive mistake. Better to ask than to be sorry.

    I will likely go the Haiku 119v route after all of the posts that I have read; great sounding light. I will then add the Makai head thereafter. I really like the building block approach, or as I have read, the "lego" approach. Thank you again for answer and piece of mind. Great forum and thank you for not dowsing the newbie!

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    After receiving my 3V 3S 119V Mule two weeks ago I decided to stay small and added a Haiku with XP-G2 and Hive. This will give me options and still have decent CRI.

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    I want one..please

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    I would like to order one!

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    See the first post by Don in this thread for ordering information....McGizmo's are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffb View Post
    See the first post by Don in this thread for ordering information....McGizmo's are great!
    Just sent an email. Any idea what his backlog is like on those / fulfillment time?

    Thanks. Such a friendly forum!

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    Should be no back log.

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    Oh awesome!

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    Usually Don ships within 2-3 days in my experience.
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    That's on a slow day! He rivals Amazon when it comes to shipping!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    That's on a slow day! He rivals Amazon when it comes to shipping!
    Truth. He responded immediately with a shipment notice. Faster than Amazon!

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    does mcgizmo add tritium himself or do i have to send it to someone else after?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chotu View Post
    does mcgizmo add tritium himself or do i have to send it to someone else after?
    I was one of the first if not the first to put tritium in a light so I have some lights now that have been around the sun with their tritium a number of trips. I have some PD lights that have tritium in the piston tails that are now pretty dim due to the 12 year half life and I decided not to continue installing the tritium myself in the lights as I want the lights to last longer than the tritium will remain bright. I personally have a couple Mules that I have installed trits on the MCPCB next to the LED but I can easily replace them down the road if I want. I leave it to the user to add trits on their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGizmo View Post
    I was one of the first if not the first to put tritium in a light so I have some lights now that have been around the sun with their tritium a number of trips. I have some PD lights that have tritium in the piston tails that are now pretty dim due to the 12 year half life and I decided not to continue installing the tritium myself in the lights as I want the lights to last longer than the tritium will remain bright. I personally have a couple Mules that I have installed trits on the MCPCB next to the LED but I can easily replace them down the road if I want. I leave it to the user to add trits on their own.
    thanks for the info, I guess I will weigh my options on buying a new one from you and adding tritium or buying a used one with trits already installed.

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    Email sent!

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    Random post here but I have to say that the Haiku, particularly Hi CRI, is THE light.
    I've spent way more money than I can afford or would like to admit on this hobby and have some super nice customs etc but let me just emphasize this point. Get a Haiku and be done with it.
    The Haiku is pure genius in design, form and function. If there can only be one Haiku this is the breakdown, CR123 body, 119V, 3S. Yes 3S, trust me it's a better LE than the Hive (insert can of worms).

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    Quote Originally Posted by F89 View Post
    If there can only be one Haiku this is the breakdown, CR123 body, 119V, 3S. Yes 3S, trust me it's a better LE than the Hive (insert can of worms).
    I've been wanting to either get a HIVE engine or Tana mod for my Haiku and it sounds like you've at least had the HIVE and not found it preferable, so please share why others might not want to go that route.
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    I just put together a Haiku single 123 pak, with the Tana "super le". That is the single led light engine with the h17f Dr. Jones driver. The led is the Nichia 219c 4000k. It is a fantastic combination. You can get really hi highs, really low lows and everything in between. Don and Tana are great to work with. The tint and beam are fantastic. I have been experimenting to find the perfect mode spacing and number of modes for my tastes. It also allows you to have two separate group setups for those that have a hard time settling on one. With this much flexibility the sky is the limit. It's difficult to settle on THE optimal setup once anything is possible. Hope this helps, but I think this combo is hard to beat except for maybe a Tana triple Haiku😀, but that is more about beam preferance.

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    This is a kit I put together several years ago when Don did a bead blast Haiku with XP-G,an extra Haiku head with a 119 Nichia and an XM-L mule. The Ti battery holder is a custom made by a gentleman that made only 10 total here on the forums (couldn't tell you who though).


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    Wow, Gw54 ... beautiful kit
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    Thanks, archimedes! That was one I took in the kits to Tibet and China on medical missions but had half a dozen others at the time. So this one has been boxed and locked in the gun safe for the last three years.
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    I've used those caps as diffusers, too, but never thought to cap the other end of spare parts
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaichu dento View Post
    I've been wanting to either get a HIVE engine or Tana mod for my Haiku and it sounds like you've at least had the HIVE and not found it preferable, so please share why others might not want to go that route.
    Someone mentioned the H17F Dr Jones so I'll start there. This driver while not ideal can be made so by it's excellent firmware.
    The Lucidrv firmware is a good example, if not the best, of clicky based firmware. Coupled with something like the H17F it is imho the best out there. Very efficient, adaptable, reliable, feature packed, simple to program and so on. I'll leave it at that as it can be read up on via the Dr Jones site.
    The Hive however, is lacking, mildly complicated, unstable (visible PWM and flickering on the lower non PWM levels). It basically feels unfinished by design and miles behind the (H17F) Lucidrv.
    Back to the 3S, this LE is solid and reliable and offers me what I need without the bells and whistles. It just plain works.
    What drew me to the Hive was a lower low but I found the lows unpleasant/unusable. The Hive isn't terrible and I don't mean to completely rubbish it but the good old 3S is just much better from a basic functionality point.
    I will also add that the Tana LE, while great for a mule, may not be ideal for a Haiku, for me anyway. The Tana LE doesn't sandwich the MCPCB between the can and the head, the PCB is a smaller diameter and sits up into the head which will seat the reflector further into the head. May or may not be an issue?
    Back to the Lucidrv, a H17F or better still a modified one with less chips and certainly no FET would be perfect. Working with the standard format simply program a lower high. Moonlight works great so does every other level. Heaps of options, simply an awesome driver and firmware.
    If this driver could be mounted in a McGizmo style can (sandwhiching the PCB) that would be perfect.
    The Lucidrv (H17F) is excellent, the Hive is quite lacking.
    End of story is basically this, I'm very happy with the 3S. It's the workhorse LE of the McGizmo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F89 View Post
    Someone mentioned the H17F Dr Jones so I'll start there. This driver while not ideal can be made so by it's excellent firmware.
    The Lucidrv firmware is a good example, if not the best, of clicky based firmware. Coupled with something like the H17F it is imho the best out there. Very efficient, adaptable, reliable, feature packed, simple to program and so on. I'll leave it at that as it can be read up on via the Dr Jones site.
    The Hive however, is lacking, mildly complicated, unstable (visible PWM and flickering on the lower non PWM levels). It basically feels unfinished by design and miles behind the (H17F) Lucidrv.
    Back to the 3S, this LE is solid and reliable and offers me what I need without the bells and whistles. It just plain works.
    What drew me to the Hive was a lower low but I found the lows unpleasant/unusable. The Hive isn't terrible and I don't mean to completely rubbish it but the good old 3S is just much better from a basic functionality point.
    I will also add that the Tana LE, while great for a mule, may not be ideal for a Haiku, for me anyway. The Tana LE doesn't sandwich the MCPCB between the can and the head, the PCB is a smaller diameter and sits up into the head which will seat the reflector further into the head. May or may not be an issue?
    Back to the Lucidrv, a H17F or better still a modified one with less chips and certainly no FET would be perfect. Working with the standard format simply program a lower high. Moonlight works great so does every other level. Heaps of options, simply an awesome driver and firmware.
    If this driver could be mounted in a McGizmo style can (sandwhiching the PCB) that would be perfect.
    The Lucidrv (H17F) is excellent, the Hive is quite lacking.
    End of story is basically this, I'm very happy with the 3S. It's the workhorse LE of the McGizmo.
    I've been leaning towards having Tana install an H17F in my Haiku for a few months now and am more convinced than ever that it is the move for me to make. I've always loved my 3S 119 Haiku but have long wished for both a higher high, and even more, a lower low.

    Thanks for sharing your input and helping me to make this important decision with my only Haiku.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaichu dento View Post
    I've been leaning towards having Tana install an H17F in my Haiku for a few months now and am more convinced than ever that it is the move for me to make. I've always loved my 3S 119 Haiku but have long wished for both a higher high, and even more, a lower low.

    Thanks for sharing your input and helping me to make this important decision with my only Haiku.
    No worries.
    The standard Tana LE with Tana's own firmware (guppydrv style, Tana3) is also a good option.
    For me, a lower low might be nice to have but I don't require a higher high in a McGizmo as I find the 3S adequate and also don't wish to chew through the battery quickly or generate too much heat.
    One thing worth mentioning is that the 3S (and Hive) function great on primary and liion where a Tana LE will be liion only.
    I really feel that the 3S and AA converter are where it's at in a Haiku but I'm happy with 3 modes with memory, like I said they are the workhorse LEs of the McGizmo.
    The AA converter is another story in it's self, an awesome LE that can handle a wide range of voltages although is definitely better suited to a single eneloop or primary.
    I'm sure you'll enjoy your Haiku whatever the LE but those 119 Don has are magic, I hope for everyone's sake he has a large supply as to me the B and C has not yet surpassed the McGizmo 119A for a pleasing beam.

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