Many places that sell the cases also sell the foam. I have several new Pelican cases with included phone ready to pick and pluck. I bought several similar cases that were in Iraq and other war areas, and discarded the custom foam that was in them, and bought foam for 2 different upholstery shops. The used cases polish up nicely, and removing the stickers showing their travels and content was easy. I found the best deals on Ebay. One case I bought was way larger than I had imagined. So... I use it without foam for camping items.