Is Surefire discontinuing some flashlights?

[shao.fu.tzer]

I'm stocking up now while I have a chance...
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[oldways]

SureFire dropping incandescent......a day that will live in infamy

[Retinator]

I may try to grab a C3 before it all dries up. I'm afraid the incans are dying much quicker than I thought.
On the plus side, they'll likely be on closeout all over the place during this year

[coctailer]

SureFire dropping incandescent......a day that will live in infamy

They are not dropping incans.

[nbp]

I can see some people's point of view in their feeling that SF doesn't want to keep making certain hosts when people are just going to go buy aftermarket dropins for them anyways.

However, I have two lines of reasoning as to why that's silly if that's their reasoning. 1.) People who do this sort of thing are certainly in the minority, so I don't picture it as being a huge monetary loss on LAs. 2.) Yeah, we may be putting other people's dropins in them, but at least we're buying their hosts!!! If this ability to Lego SF lights and pop in new modules disappears with sealed heads, I suspect recreational users like many of us will buy fewer of their lights to begin with because we can't plug in new guts easily. The people/organizations that keep buying them would have bought them anyways whether they change them or not, so really what was gained by getting rid of the easily moddable Incan models?

I don't have tons of SFs, just a handful, but it still makes me sad to see this.

[Robocop]

It seems as if Surefire would be in a good situation even if everyone did buy their lights and use different drop ins as they are still moving the original lights out the door. I have noticed that the E1E is getting harder to find at many of my local gun shops and other sources. I still really like that light with the Lumens Factory drop ins.

I may also have to stock up on one or two spares of the E1E simply because I still have 7 or 8 of the drop ins that are new in the box. I think the collector in me hates to see any old favorites go much more than the actual user in me.

[angelofwar]

Ditto Robo-Cop...But, on the other hand, if they never got rid of any, what would we collect? What would be a classic. I hated to see the L2/L6 go, but now that they're gone, that makes the ones I have (in mint condition) unique (and a little more valuable).

[Dioni]

Sad days to come...

[seale_navy]

well at least surefire kept the 6P incan and G2 incan. its better than nothing right guys??

[lasermax]

Surefire m6 guardian not good at all

[TJx]

Not good news for those of us (me) with hoarder tendencies, now I'll be stocking up on spares like there's no tomorrow.

Hoard Schmoard, I just picked up my 9th and 10th A2 at the 1ndy 1500 Gunshow this weekend. I'm starting to think that even people around CPF are going to think I'm a little mental. But as long as people are going to sell minty A2's for $75, I'll keep buying.

[Dioni]

Surefire m6 guardian not good at all

[lasermax]

I should say that the surefire m6 should stay as a incan and surefire can make a m6tl also the m6 seems to me to be a legend of its own its not good that there getting rid of incans on all the lights right now the m6 is my main booming light for walking home oorah for the surefire m6

[lasermax]

The surefire is awsome light I didn't mean any thing bad its just sad that there getting rid of it

[DimeRazorback]

Check out the website guys... a lot of models discontinued.

It is now official!

DISCONTINUED:
LED
G3L Fire Rescue
Kroma
AZ2-S
Stratum
Z2-S
6PL Defender
6PL
G2L
L1 LumaMax
L5 LumaMax
Z2L

Incan
M6
M4
G3
E2D
E2E
6P
M2
C3
Z2
C2
G2Z



I'm not liking the direction the company is going, personally.
I feel the newer designs are cheap looking and not as tough looking, and I hate the lack of knurling!

[ASheep]

A sad day indeed
The venerable 6P has reached the end of its life... The mighty legend of the M6 is at an end... They will live on in our collections!
Tonight I'll light up all my Surefires as a tribute.

Cheers,
Alex

[DimeRazorback]

It sure is a sad day... a little bitter sweet though. I just paid for my UB3T pre-order and it's on it's way...

[carrot]

Check out the website guys... a lot of models discontinued.

It is now official!

WOW! The unfortunate end of an era. I am shocked that the 6P was chopped but the E1E survived! Incans getting the chop from the lineup was a long time coming and some lights I'm surprised lasted as long as they did but still a sad thing to see.

[Sailboat]

I noticed this and came to CPF and saw you had already posted the list..It's unfortunate. A lot of awesome models are gone.

[Sailboat]

WOW! The unfortunate end of an era. I am shocked that the 6P was chopped but the E1E survived! Incans getting the chop from the lineup was a long time coming and some lights I'm surprised lasted as long as they did but still a sad thing to see.

Perhaps people are valuing runtime over output and the longer running, less powerful E1E was more fitting to buyers' interests?

[DimeRazorback]

There must be a niche market for the E1e, military contracting perhaps?

[nbp]

Check out the website guys... a lot of models discontinued.
I'm not liking the direction the company is going, personally.
I feel the newer designs are cheap looking and not as tough looking, and I hate the lack of knurling!

And let's not forget perhaps one of the most important flaws for our hobby, the lack of modularity and lego-ability.

The future: A bunch of smooth textured, multi-mode, sealed head, non-interchangeable lights.... there's a market no one has explored yet.

[DimeRazorback]

And let's not forget perhaps one of the most important flaws for our hobby, the lack of modularity and lego-ability.

The future: A bunch of smooth textured, multi-mode, sealed head, non-interchangeable lights.... there's a market no one has explored yet.

You are correct. I was going to point out some of these points myself, however I stopped while I was ahead of myself as I didn't want to go off topic!

[carrot]

There must be a niche market for the E1e, military contracting perhaps?

Hmm, I'm thinking the E1E with its full spectrum light output and ability to take red, blue and IR filters probably has something to do with it, now that you mention it.

[angelofwar]

M4, M6, C2 AND C3??? I think I'm gonna go cry now...TGIF! I know what I'll be doing this week-end...a sad day indeed...once the initial "extras" get sold, expect C2's and C3's to fetch a pretty penny on the MP...sigh...can I get a hug here, please??? FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!

[angelofwar]

And now EVERY incan turbo-head has been discontinued...along with the HA Clickies...

[Sailboat]

And now EVERY incan turbo-head has been discontinued...along with the HA Clickies...

M3T is still being produced oddly enough.

[angelofwar]

Yeah, I saw that...maybe that was the only one they were selling enough of? Or because it's completely compatible with their "M" series weaponlights???

[lasermax]

Maybe somebody can explain to me that they upgraded the m6 but not the m4 ???

[DimeRazorback]

They probably don't see the need between the M3LT and M6LT as the runtime increase from the M3LT wouldn't be too dramatic.

The KX9T can be used on the M4 body anyway, so you can still have an M4LT