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    Thumbs up ZebraLight H502 XM-L

    "There will be an H502 (XM-L, <2.9"), slated for release in Q4 this year. The H50 has a negative meniscus lens. The H501 uses a positive meniscus lens. Both are made of polycarbonate. The H502 will use a plano-convex lens (optical grade glass, tempered, AR coated on both sides). We'll have a link to a google docs sheet in 1 or 2 days for all current and upcoming models."

    From here.

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    Last edited by JA(me)S; 06-02-2011 at 11:49 AM.

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    Thx for the heads-up! I hope it keeps the H501's beam profile and be brighter/more efficient (support for 14500 would be nice too).

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    Not a reflectored light, so it sounds like Zebralight has decided to keep a couple of true floods in the lineup. Good news.

    The plano convex lens may (?) mean that the lens will be flat on the outside...I hope...no "bubble" lens hanging out to be scratched as in the H501, although it was well recessed. I liked the H50's almost flat lens best...although protection for it was virtually nonexistent if you took off the rubber hood.
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    I just saw this mentioned in that thread as well. Good news as I also am not a big fan of the newer spotty headlamps. I'll buy it when they have a warm or even better high CRI version.

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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    Also saw that ZL is going to offer the H302 in XM-L in Q1 2012 in a purely flood configuration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolster View Post
    Not a reflectored light, so it sounds like Zebralight has decided to keep a couple of true floods in the lineup. Good news.

    The plano convex lens may (?) mean that the lens will be flat on the outside...I hope...no "bubble" lens hanging out to be scratched as in the H501, although it was well recessed. I liked the H50's almost flat lens best...although protection for it was virtually nonexistent if you took off the rubber hood.
    Flat on the inside. The H502 lens is made of optical grade glass, tempered and recessed. The lens in the H501 is made of polycarbonate, prone to scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HIDblue View Post
    Also saw that ZL is going to offer the H302 in XM-L in Q1 2012 in a purely flood configuration.
    WOW! Sounds like ZL is listening to us pure flood enthusiasts after all! And here I was thinking the H501 would be the last pure flood from ZL...ha!

    The recessed glass lens sounds like a winner.

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    I hope they bring back the simpler UI of the old models and get rid of flashing modes. I don't like any of this nonsense with mode 1 and mode 2 and mode 55 and click click press hold double click triple click do the chicken dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyboy View Post
    ...click click press hold double click triple click do the chicken dance.
    Yes, but are you OK with the "Happy Happy Joy Joy" dance?

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    I am - and the chicken dance is just sooo much fun!

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    Excellent news. Way to go Zebralight! I will gladly retire my H501w and H501 for this beauty.
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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    The H502's exterior dimensions, as compared to the H501, have grown slightly to allow for the demands/size of the X-ML:

    • H502: 2.9" x .9"
    • H501: 2.75" x .75"

    In terms of expected performance increase, this seems a worthwhile trade-off.

    - Jas.


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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    The girth given must be for the head of the light, not the battery tube. (If it were the battery tube that would be one fat little AA light.) Looking at the head of my H501 it mikes to .742. A .9 head will be significantly chunkier. And yes, I'll be happy with it if that's what's required. The length of the H501 is actualy 2.620 (on metal), and the lengthening to 2.9 will be negligible. Any guesstimates of what the performance increase will be?

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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolster View Post
    The girth given must be for the head of the light, not the battery tube. (If it were the battery tube that would be one fat little AA light.) Looking at the head of my H501 it mikes to .742. A .9 head will be significantly chunkier. And yes, I'll be happy with it if that's what's required. The length of the H501 is actualy 2.620 (on metal), and the lengthening to 2.9 will be negligible. Any guesstimates of what the performance increase will be?
    I'm thinking it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect 220, 240 lumens, from higher circuit efficiency, higher optical efficiency, and a more efficient led than the 51s.

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    I think I heard or read somewhere that the new 1xAA XM-L offerings are to be 300 lumens, which is darned impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedForest UK View Post
    I think I heard or read somewhere that the new 1xAA XM-L offerings are to be 300 lumens, which is darned impressive.
    Then Zebralight is once again going to claim king of output for 1xAA...

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    Quote Originally Posted by srfreddy View Post
    I'm thinking it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect 220, 240 lumens, from higher circuit efficiency, higher optical efficiency, and a more efficient led than the 51s.
    I don't have any output figures for the 502 yet but the output from the T5 protypes, which share the same new DC/DC driver, is WAY above the 220-240 range.

    The 502 prototye looks like a short H51, about 2.9".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZebraLight View Post
    I don't have any output figures for the 502 yet but the output from the T5 protypes, which share the same new circuit, is WAY above the 220-240 range.

    The 502 prototye looks like a short H51, about 2.9".
    So is the T5 a new series of lights, with tailswitches? Please make angle head XML reflector lights....
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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    Wowsa, wasn't expectin the 502's. That's cool
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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    Great Scott! regarding the high end. That's a lot of light. Although I don't care so much about the high as I do about the midrange.

    I am just hoping for 30-60 lumens in the midrange with a long runtime.

    And no parabolic reflector.
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    I wonder what the low will be? 240 lumens on 1XAA? Wow, that's a bunch of light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolster View Post
    Great Scott! regarding the high end. That's a lot of light. Although I don't care so much about the high as I do about the midrange.

    I am just hoping for 30-60 lumens in the midrange with a long runtime.

    And no parabolic reflector.

    My thoughts exactly.
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    Default Re: ZebraLight H502 X-ML

    Quote Originally Posted by Woods Walker View Post
    I wonder what the low will be? 240 lumens on 1XAA? Wow, that's a bunch of light.
    I speculate closer to 300 Lm.

    - Jas.

    edit: oh, and down to around .1 Lm
    Last edited by JA(me)S; 05-03-2011 at 09:06 PM.

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    CaseyTan, in another thread (http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...-t-mean-better), posted a spreadsheet from Zebralight listing current and proposed lights. The T5 is listed as 300 lumens, and given that it will share a driver with the H502, the H502 should be similar output. So looks like Ja(me)s wins the prize.

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    Down to .1 lumens.....holy shizzle, might need an H502w...............

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    H502w is my next headlamp!

    I just returned a H51Fw because the beam was sad compared to my H501.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JA(me)S View Post
    I speculate closer to 300 Lm.

    - Jas.

    edit: oh, and down to around .1 Lm
    Wow but we will have to see. That .1 Lm thing looks good. I hope they have a nice med setting that will run long. Too big of a jump between med and high on the H50-H501 but like them a bunch. Then again with settings it is hard to please everyone. The tint on the H501 cool LED was miles better than my H50 so despite my like of the w models if ZL stays picky with their tints aka no piss green or crazy blue a cool would be ok for me. I read these are going to be made in the USA. Is this true? If so a big plus as they could be fixed here should something should go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeyboy View Post
    I hope they bring back the simpler UI of the old models and get rid of flashing modes. I don't like any of this nonsense with mode 1 and mode 2 and mode 55 and click click press hold double click triple click do the chicken dance.
    I quite like the choice of 6 output levels you get with the latest (multi-level ie H1/H2, M1/M2 and L1/L2) UIs. You only have to set once and forget. Much better for me than the fixed 3 levels of the early UIs.

    Plus you only ever see the dreaded flashing disco-mode when you double-click 6 times, so it is well out of the way of anyone except the compulsive click-artists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woods Walker View Post
    Wow but we will have to see. That .1 Lm thing looks good. I hope they have a nice med setting that will run long. Too big of a jump between med and high on the H50-H501 but like them a bunch. Then again with settings it is hard to please everyone. The tint on the H501 cool LED was miles better than my H50 so despite my like of the w models if ZL stays picky with their tints aka no piss green or crazy blue a cool would be ok for me. I read these are going to be made in the USA. Is this true? If so a big plus as they could be fixed here should something should go wrong.
    I agree with the mode spacing concerns - but I like the current (H51 series) spacing Lm percentage options. Hopefully there will be a mode on the H502 at around 60 Lm for 10-12 hours; this would be a quite useful setting.

    I believe the H502 will be produced in China...

    - Jas.


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