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    Hi guys,

    I am now adding more confusion to my offering by adding some XM-L based versions of the Mule and Haiku to go along with the Makai XM-L.



    Above is a pic of the XM-L in a Haiku. I see no need to show a pic of XM-L in Mule head. If throw is important then I think the XP-G is a better choice but if flood and maximum lumens are desired then the XM-L is a great new alternative. It's an impressive LED with exceptional efficacy, IMHO.

    The XM-L can be driven by either the 3S converter I am using which works well on the 1x123 or 2xAA paks as well as with the 3 speed buck/boost converter I am using for the 2 cell (2x123) paks.

    In the 1x123 LE, the LED is driven at the standard current level ~600 mA and in the 2x123 LE the LED is driven at ~1400 mA. Typical flux is probably near 200 lumens on the 1x123 and about 325 lumens on the 2x123. Please exercise caution when using the 6V lights on high output. The XM-L LED is efficient and capable of much higher current than it gets in these lights but heat is still a consideration.

    The XM-L LED has a large die as you no doubt know and in the Haiku I found that the original Haiku reflector that was designed for the Cree XR-E LED works quite well with the XM-L LED. I use a small spacer O-ring in the cup on the rear of the reflector. The spot portion of the beam is large and the spill is bright. The overall beam thus is a bright concentrated flood without significant intensity differences across the pattern.

    The Haiku XML is being offered for $455 plus shipping *
    The Haiku XML 6V is being offered for $520 plus shipping *

    The Mule XML is being offered for $415 plus shipping *
    The Mule XML 6V is being offered for $480 plus shipping *

    I think this is already pretty confusing for many of us but those who know what is what and would like some form of variation beyond these full light offerings, I am open to assist. For instance any of these can be had as a "Head Only" and $170 would be reduced off the price of the 1x123 lights and $230 would be reduced off the price of the 2x123 lights. One could also opt for a 2xAA pak in lieu of 1x123 pak for an additional fee of $40. Any questions on these lights or variations of them can be asked in this thread so that all can benefit.

    These 4 offerings are complete flashlights and the 6V designates the buck/boost converter as well as the 2x123 pak. The Haiku XM-L and Mule XM-L come using the 3S converter and with the 1x123 pak.

    I do want to state that my hope and intent is to process the e-mail orders for these on a first received/ first processed basis and ideally the response to your e-mail order will be a notification of shipment. I don't want to add to the number of communications by sending an acknowledgment prior to generating the postage notification.

    These lights are available on first come first serve basis; as determined by e-mail orders I receive which are clear, concise and include the must have information:

    In the subject line of the E-mail please state: the version of XM-L light requested

    In the body of the e-mail request please provide:

    Additional clarification on the light you want (if necessary and to be safe)
    Your CPF name
    (if you have one)
    Your real name and mailing address
    phone number if international shipment
    Any exceptions to standard shipping, which is priority mail.
    If the shipment is domestic and you want insurance, please so state. (No insurance offered on international shipments)*

    For my general info on how I process these offerings, please refer to THIS THREAD. For more information on the Haiku, please review THIS THREAD.

    All of these lights sport some tool marks and various cosmetic singularities. Some may be obvious and some you may need to look closely for.

    If you receive one of these lights and decide that it does not meet your expectation then you can either lower your expectations or simply send the light back for a full refund. I won't offer an exchange for probably obvious reasons. (please don't abuse this offer)

    Like all of my Ti lights, these XM-L versions are designed to be sealed from the environment and external pressure but I make no claim or suggestion that it is a dive or underwater light.

    Thanks guys!

    * shipping is via Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation or Global Priority mail. If you wish shipping via an alternative method, or signature confirmation or insurance on domestic shipments only, please specify in your e-mail order. If you want insurance, I will also add the expense and option of signature confirmation to your shipment.
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    This is awesome! Don was gracious enough to offer me a 6V XM-L that I have been using for the last few months. This is the best McGizmo light to date and the offering of the Haiku just makes it that much better.

    Anyone that might be on the fence about either of these - GET BOTH! They will become a must have!

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    Can we get the head+LE / LE only prices posted?
    Also is a Haiku 3v 1400ma LE out of the question? (2x eneloop)
    Thanks,
    Frank
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    Gah! I already have too many Haikus and I just can't justify one of these. Not to mention I spent a ton of money building this:



    Ah well, I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will jump all over this. Looks great, as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drywolf View Post
    Can we get the head+LE / LE only prices posted?
    Also is a Haiku 3v 1400ma LE out of the question? (2x eneloop)
    Thanks,
    Frank
    Frank,
    The 3S converter design does not allow for current drive levels above present offerings. Sorry.

    As for HEAD ONLY,

    The HEAD ONLY-Haiku XML is being offered for $285 plus shipping *
    The HEAD ONLY-Haiku XML 6V is being offered for $290 plus shipping *

    The HEAD ONLY-Mule XML is being offered for $245 plus shipping *
    The HEAD ONLY-Mule XML 6V is being offered for $250 plus shipping *

    As for just a Light Engine (LE) I won't turn my back on a request but on the other hand, I don't want to encourage the sale of just the LE to the extent of posting prices in this thread for a number of reasons. Foremost being the possibility of improper or marginal applications and the consideration that I have limited numbers of drivers, LED's and components and have based my inventories on the ability to build flashlights and not as a parts supply. The only straight forward exchange of a XM-L LE is that of putting one in a Makai head or Mule head.
    Build Prices .... some mods and builds (not 4 sale) "Nature can be cruel- but we don't have to be."~ Temple Grandin

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    Hey Don,

    Does this mean there won't be a single cell Makai?

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    Hi Don,
    Email sent for HEAD ONLY-Haiku XML 6V.
    Thanks,
    Frank

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Coach View Post
    Hey Don,

    Does this mean there won't be a single cell Makai?
    Hi Coach, I will be happy to build a single cell Makai for anyone who wants one. The price would be $515 plus postage for a complete Makai XM-L or $345 for Head only.
    Build Prices .... some mods and builds (not 4 sale) "Nature can be cruel- but we don't have to be."~ Temple Grandin

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    Thanks Don its beautiful piece of work and shipping was lightning quick! Ordered yesterday and in my hands when I got back from lunch today. I'm still undecided if you living just on the other side of the island is going to be a blessing or a curse ;-).


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    Maybe you two can play flashlight tag.

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    I'm afraid at this stage Don has me seriously outgunned :-)

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    I can tell you guys that the Mule is a cool tint, but not blue-ish. My guess is that it's in the 5200-5400k range. If you've seen the Mule beam before, it is no different due to the lack of a reflector which gives the XM-L the nice fat hotspot vs. the XP-G. But, it is seriously bright on high... like a 100 watt bulb in a really compact package. I'll try to get some beamshots when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darvis View Post
    I can tell you guys that the Mule is a cool tint, but not blue-ish. My guess is that it's in the 5200-5400k range. If you've seen the Mule beam before, it is no different due to the lack of a reflector which gives the XM-L the nice fat hotspot vs. the XP-G. But, it is seriously bright on high... like a 100 watt bulb in a really compact package. I'll try to get some beamshots when I can.
    That would be nice!
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    Excellent choice! I carry one everyday. Welcome to McGizmoland!

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    Thank you for the warm welcome!

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    My Haiku XM-L shipped today. Should arrive tomorrow as I'm only an island away
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    Don,
    just sent you an email ordering 1 Haiku XML CR123.
    I await for your response.

    Thank u.
    Last edited by Timager; 04-30-2012 at 10:47 PM. Reason: font

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    Thank you!

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    Another buyer driven here by my Haiku Love Letter - shouldn't I be getting a commission for this? Like, 10 sales equals half off a new Haiku or a free LE or something?



    Congratulations Raven, you made a great choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    Another buyer driven here by my Haiku Love Letter - shouldn't I be getting a commission for this? Like, 10 sales equals half off a new Haiku or a free LE or something?



    Congratulations Raven, you made a great choice!
    Sure was a good review. Tipped me over the edge!!!
    It was shipped on saturday so hopefully will be with me in a week or so.
    My Haiku has got over 7200 miles to travel (direct didtance between Don's house and mine) so I hope she can keep herself out of trouble and teporarily blind any snooping postal worker!!!!

    I'll let you all know my 1st impressions any may put a few pics on too.
    I might even take some unboxing pics just to show everyone how Don's lights arrive and are packed. I couldn't find any pictures of this anywhere. I assume it's just a well packed USPS box with just the light in with no spare etc.

    Anyway, need to get off to bed as the more I sleep this week, the quicker it will come!
    I think about McGizmo's almost as much as thinking about what men mostly think about!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven-burg View Post
    Anyway, need to get off to bed as the more I sleep this week, the quicker it will come!


    Goodnight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven-burg View Post
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    I might even take some unboxing pics just to show everyone how Don's lights arrive and are packed. I couldn't find any pictures of this anywhere. I assume it's just a well packed USPS box with just the light in with no spare etc.

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    I pack and ship the lights with a focus on minimum expense and land fill material. The owner's manual and operating instructions are hopefully already in your head so no reason to waste paper....
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    Don, you should include a warranty card although nobody will ever need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGizmo View Post
    I pack and ship the lights with a focus on minimum expense and land fill material. The owner's manual and operating instructions are hopefully already in your head so no reason to waste paper....

    You mean there's not even a `10% off your next order' voucher!!!
    I think about McGizmo's almost as much as thinking about what men mostly think about!!

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    Hi all,
    Wow, my XM-L Haiku arrived from Don in just over 5 days. That's pretty amazing I think. It spent a total of 4 mins in customs!!!
    Also I would like to say how professional Don is to deal with, a real pleasure.
    Now for the light. I cut open the USPS flat envelope, unwrapped the light from the bubble wrap and admired its shear beauty. I'd read as many reviews as possible before and they all mentioned the ergonomics/handling so I was interested to feel it for myself. I can say this is the most pleasing light I have ever handled and probably ever will! I cannot put this thing down. As for the finish, it is PERFECT, and I do mean perfect! This is machining at it's best. My Sunwayman V10R ti had some perfectly acceptable swirls and machining marks and I was expecting similar hear but I was so wrong.
    I won't ramble on much more as I'm still playing with it but I'm happy as you can probably tell.
    What more could you ask for, top notch service, fast shipping, great beam, nice and bright floody cool beam, 3 very well chosen levels and a god like finish.
    Maybe some pictures I think over the weekend for those of you who need further pursuading.
    Thanks Don
    I think about McGizmo's almost as much as thinking about what men mostly think about!!

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    Sweet! Glad to hear you love it as much as some of us do. The Haiku is a super EDC; she's pretty but don't let that stop you from using her. Carry that thing and revel in it' flawless utility.

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    The second Mule that I ordered from Don shipped out yesterday. It has always been a pleasure dealing with Don and specially that this is my 4th light from Him. But yesterday Don outdone him self and shipped the light before I even knew how much the amount due to send him. This is one of the nicest things anyone has ever done to me.
    Don't get me wrong its not like I'm gonna consider it a gift , But the mere fact that he trusts me enough to send it made me very happy.

    I don't have to report back here about the mule and my impressions because as usual those lights are perfect in every aspect

    Cheers to Don for an all around lovely experience

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    You can mod one to whatever you'd like.

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    Placed an order for an xml haiku yesterday. So excited! Been wanting one for a while. Thanks!

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    Received Don's Mule today. Just got the chance to play with it for a while. The light itself is a great worksmanship, now i can understand whats the McGizmo hype is all about. It feels good just to hold one in the hand. And of course nice useful beam

    Thanks Don.

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