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    Default Re: Wave of Mule & Haiku lights using the Cree XM-L LEDs

    AFAIK the drivers Don uses can handle :
    Haiku XML = up to 4.2V = 1x123 or 1x RCR123
    Haiku XML 6v = up to 8.4V = 2x123 or 2x RCR123

    Hope this helps

    Quote Originally Posted by grayhighh View Post
    Getting a little bit confuse
    Haiku XML = 1x123
    Haiku XML 6v = 2x123
    right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu124 View Post
    AFAIK the drivers Don uses can handle :
    Haiku XML = up to 4.2V = 1x123 or 1x RCR123
    Haiku XML 6v = up to 8.4V = 2x123 or 2x RCR123

    Hope this helps

    Thanks

    another question

    can i use haiku xml 6v with only one cr123 ?

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    Default Re: Wave of Mule & Haiku lights using the Cree XM-L LEDs

    I just now tried that with my Makai 6V which should use the same driver as the Haiku.
    On RCR123 it runs without problems. With a RC123 it wasn't able to change modes, probably the voltage is to low on primaries.

    BTW...

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    Thanks for answering my question emu124

    I'm considering a Haiku as an EDC light, since it'll be an EDC i should go for the
    xml version, but i do like higher output.
    So just trying to figure out what i want.

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    Just wanted to say that I've spent the last few days with my new XM-L Mule, and man what a light!!! Really glad I went the mule route. For anyone familiar with the Mule beam, no new surprises other than it's brighter comapratively. These are not overdriven, so it's not a blinding madness on high, and the low is very for dark adapted eyes.

    Grayhighh- The XM-L is my favorite LED to date, nothing seems as good to me now that I've had the chance to own a few XM-L lights. It's really the larger hotspot that does it, as bright as the XP-G but just plain bigger. I think it's really that good. The Malkoff XM-L reflectored drop-ins that I have contain the very reflectors designed by Don, so if they're any indication of what the Haiku will do, then I think the Haiku package will rock big time.

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    Darvis- Thanks for the information, appreciate it.

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    +1 for some XM-L Mule beam shots. Any comments towards the tint?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWRitchie76 View Post
    +1 for some XM-L Mule beam shots. Any comments towards the tint?
    +1 for some Haiku XM-L beam shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coloradogps View Post
    +1 for some Haiku XM-L beam shots.
    I'll try to take some tonight with a few other lights? How about a Gavina and ....... any suggestions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shado View Post
    I'll try to take some tonight with a few other lights? How about a Gavina and ....... any suggestions?
    Will like to see some mac's and mcgizmo comparison.

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    So I went outside to take some beam shots and ran into my neighbour........ and after the better part of an hour it started to rain. I took some shots before it really started to come down, but they aren't worth posting! I will try again tomorrow with the same lights,

    - Haiku XP-G
    - Haiku XM-L
    - Haiku 6V
    - Macs Tri EDC
    - Mac SST 50 EDC
    - KuKu Gavina XM-L

    I will say that the biggest surprise was the Gavina! I knew it was bright, but it really blew me away! I would say it's was comparable to the Macs Customs EDC's!
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    Hope there will have some great pics come out tommrrow.
    Thanks Shado.

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    Wow wow wow!

    Just got my Haiku!

    What a beauty! I can't wait until dark so I can go out and play with it!

    Many thanks, Don!

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    OK, so today went better and I got some shots. All shots were taken using fresh AW RCR 123's with the exception of the Macs Tri-EDC (Fresh 18350 UltraFire) and the Haiku 6V (using two AW RCR 123's). All lights were on the highest setting they had. This is my first time posting beam shots and any suggestions are welcome!


    Haiku 6V


    Haiku XP-G


    Haiku XL-M


    KuKu 427 Gavina XM-L (1.2A)


    Macs SST 50 EDC


    Macs Tri EDC


    I hope this helps?

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    Thanks for the beamshot, Todd
    May I know how far were you from the garage door?
    And about the Gavina am surprised too

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    Thanks for the beamshot, looks great
    The haiku xml looks smooth, love it, it's what i've looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiuong View Post
    Thanks for the beamshot, Todd
    May I know how far were you from the garage door?
    And about the Gavina am surprised too
    I was about 30 feet from the garage. The Gavina I used was my wife's (Pink trits) that runs on 123's.

    McGizmo Haiku 123 and 2x123 / Gavina XM-L 18650 and CR123


    I would also like to add though not the brightest, the Haiku XM-L had the best tint of the bunch!
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    It should also be noted for those curious that your Gavina is one of the few with a working 4 stage driver.

    Most Gavina's run standard at 800mA top end. Mine is going to sport an XP-G High Cri.

    Can't wait to hold that 18650 tube in my hand...it's looks like a mini-lightsaber.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shado View Post
    OK, so today went better and I got some shots. All shots were taken using fresh AW RCR 123's with the exception of the Macs Tri-EDC (Fresh 18350 UltraFire) and the Haiku 6V (using two AW RCR 123's). All lights were on the highest setting they had. This is my first time posting beam shots and any suggestions are welcome!
    The beamshots do help, yes; it's particularly interesting to see what the XM-L beam looks like, because I have a P60 drop-in that uses an XM-L and that drop-in's larger reflector clearly makes a huge difference in the focus of the beam.

    Two requests:

    1. Please specify the emitter and the input voltage for each of the beamshots, and;

    2. Please take some "ceiling-bounce" pictures with each light in a darkened room, so we can see the relative brightness of the lights when the beams are diffused against a white surface.

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    Todd thank you for putting in the time for the beam shots! Much appreciated by all! Now anyone got a XM-L Mule they care to share. I'm on the fence and just trying to decide between high CRI or XM-L but I need to see a XM-L beam shot before I can make a informed decision. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWRitchie76 View Post
    Todd thank you for putting in the time for the beam shots! Much appreciated by all! Now anyone got a XM-L Mule they care to share. I'm on the fence and just trying to decide between high CRI or XM-L but I need to see a XM-L beam shot before I can make a informed decision. Thanks!
    You are such a copy-cat! I asked for xm-l Mule shots first!

    Really though, that would be awesome. If they look good, I am all about saving up for a Mule. Personally, I think that would be an awesome compliment to my Haiku for days when I am basically inside and need all flood and zero throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    You are such a copy-cat! I asked for xm-l Mule shots first!

    Really though, that would be awesome. If they look good, I am all about saving up for a Mule. Personally, I think that would be an awesome compliment to my Haiku for days when I am basically inside and need all flood and zero throw.
    Who me!
    Don tells me the XM-L is about twice the output of the high CRI yet on the cooler side of neutral. I'm in the smoke stages of maybe getting a Mule and it'll take selling or trading one of my toys to make it happen but I think I may have the sickness.....
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    Shado- Thank you so much for the XM-L Haiku beamshot! You were even kind enough to put it in sequence with my beloved XP-G for comparison...

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    Thanks Don its beautiful piece of work and shipping was lightning quick! Ordered yesterday and in my hands when I got back from lunch today. I'm still undecided if you living just on the other side of the island is going to be a blessing or a curse ;-).


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    Maybe you two can play flashlight tag.

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    I'm afraid at this stage Don has me seriously outgunned :-)

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    I can tell you guys that the Mule is a cool tint, but not blue-ish. My guess is that it's in the 5200-5400k range. If you've seen the Mule beam before, it is no different due to the lack of a reflector which gives the XM-L the nice fat hotspot vs. the XP-G. But, it is seriously bright on high... like a 100 watt bulb in a really compact package. I'll try to get some beamshots when I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darvis View Post
    I can tell you guys that the Mule is a cool tint, but not blue-ish. My guess is that it's in the 5200-5400k range. If you've seen the Mule beam before, it is no different due to the lack of a reflector which gives the XM-L the nice fat hotspot vs. the XP-G. But, it is seriously bright on high... like a 100 watt bulb in a really compact package. I'll try to get some beamshots when I can.
    That would be nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JWRitchie76 View Post
    Todd thank you for putting in the time for the beam shots! Much appreciated by all! Now anyone got a XM-L Mule they care to share. I'm on the fence and just trying to decide between high CRI or XM-L but I need to see a XM-L beam shot before I can make a informed decision. Thanks!
    I'm going to take some SPY 007 beam shots tonight and will try to do a Mule XM-L vs Mule high CRI for you
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    You have got a Mule XML as well. Envy.

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