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    Wink2 MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    Just ordered one of these 125 lumen upgrades for my M6 but want more lumens, of course!
    Who can get this thing to put out some real light?

    Thanks,
    Lee
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    everything looks like a nail." -Maslow

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    Default Re: MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    Really, no one is interested?
    If anyone knows whom I should contact directly, then please speak up.

    Thanks,
    Lee
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    everything looks like a nail." -Maslow

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    Default Re: MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    If you have an LED conversion that outputs 125 Lumens,
    that is likely the most you can expect from that light as
    they were designed for incandescent lamps that throw
    the generated heat out the front of the window. Normally
    it is very hard to get more power with an LED when the light
    has not been designed for an LED. It is a matter of thermal
    heat path from the LED to the outside of the light. A light
    designed for an LED in that size range with two CR123A
    batteries can do 600 Lumens with a Cree XML LED. But
    not a conversion.

    Curt
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    Default Re: MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    Thanks, Curt. As is the norm with weapon-mounted lights, this would be used in few-second bursts so I'm not too concerned about heat-sinking. For those few seconds of use, more output would be advantageous...

    Thanks,
    Lee
    "When the only tool you have is a hammer,
    everything looks like a nail." -Maslow

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    Default Re: MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    We make the NP600 using the Cree XML driven at 2.4 Amps, however it
    is a complete light and not a drop in. We do not sell electronics and I
    have no idea at this time if our head could be retrofitted to the M3/M6.
    It is potted and sealed in epoxy, the head diameter is 1.24 inches and
    the thread is 0.800-32 UN 2A.

    We are not a proponent of weapon mounted lights for pistols. As too
    many incidental shootings have occurred. Also we prefer the FBI stance
    that moves you as a target away from the light source using an
    independent light.

    Curt
    I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me a PEAK flashlight, or give me the dark.

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    Default Re: MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    Thank you, Curt, for the well-considered responses.
    In all the years that I've been using a weapon-mounted light, it's been activated for no longer than many seconds at a time. I don't think heat build up would be a problem, at least for me and how I use them. A brighter LED with the necessary driver installed in that conversion unit could be just the ticket. Would a TIR optic work in such a small space?
    You raise the very valid point about accidental shootings. When I train people, I stress that weapon-mounted lights are not for beginners or to be used for searching or utility lighting. On duty, I always carried at least one hand-held light in addition to the one on my sidearm and practiced quite a bit using both simultaneously. The weapon light was only activated if pointing the gun was warranted. Even then, it was done in a flash-and-move fashion.
    With the rifle or shotgun it's a bit different due to requiring two hands on the weapon. I prefer to bounce the light off of the floor or known safe direction, again in a flash-and-move fashion.
    Sorry for the thread derail.
    Once the unit arrives I can take pics and measurements for posting if any modders are interested.

    Thanks,
    Lee
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    everything looks like a nail." -Maslow

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    Default Re: MOD WORK WANTED: Insight Tech Gear M3 & M6 LED Upgrade

    Curt,
    Is it possible to convert the surefire 9an commander to led? As long as it's around 140 lumen is ok with me. I would like to keep it rechargeable.

    Rafael

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