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    Anyone have interest in one of these? This will be a carbon sleeve epoxy bonded over an aluminum body. This will be a tad lighter than the standard Alpha. Please give feedback on whether you want the aluminum to be "raw" or nickel plated like my other lights. I recommend the nickel plate for long term durability.

    The light (as pictured) will be in the neighborhood of $300.00 This covers the cost of the additional machining on the head and the cost to have custom carbon tubes manufactured to my specifications. The light in the photo is just a mock up. This is not a final price since I still need to get the exact cost from the tube manufacturer.

    Thanks!

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    Looks great!

    What about hard chrome plating for the exposed metal? Might give it more of a "hot-rod sports car" theme....

    EDIT: Or, even better, DLC coating for a two-tone black-on-grey (carbon-on-carbon!) look
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    Very nice. Nicest looking head yet as well out of your iterations. I've had the boom reflector on 2 (custom) lights so far and have been VERY happy with the beam (one is MC-E, the other was Osram 6-die). My only concern would be on tint - my taste goes more towards neutral (~4500) or slightly warmer. Any chance of opening the LED tint up to options?


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    I have 4000k MCE and 5000k XML on hand, as well as xpg high CRI. I'm looking to get some very specific bins direct from a Cree dealer in the next month or so

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    Default Re: FEELER: Dark Sucks, Carbon Fiber bodied Alpha

    Quote Originally Posted by archer6817j View Post
    I have 4000k MCE and 5000k XML on hand, as well as xpg high CRI. I'm looking to get some very specific bins direct from a Cree dealer in the next month or so
    That xpg high CRI is REALLY nice! Sounds like you're heading in the direction I like!

    Incidentally - not interested in Raw aluminum at all. EN, Chrome, HAIII.... are all good...


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    Jason,
    the carbon fiber is sick ! I really like the looks of it.

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    That is the best looking head I've ever seen on a light.. Love the design (specifically how the long relief cuts through the fining turn into the bezel crenelation at the end) . Keep this up cuz it's a winning design in my book...

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    Is it going to take a 18650 battery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLOCK18 View Post
    Is it going to take a 18650 battery?
    Yep, it's identical to my Alpha light specifications...Let's call it the "Alpha Carbon"

    If you haven't seen the other lights you can click on the link in my sig for all the details.

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    How much extra might it be if you were to offer DLC?

    The more I think about a "Carbon-Squared" in High-CRI, the more difficult I may find to resist....
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    I like it. Now, what to sell to fund my interest? ;-)
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    The head is great.

    I like it much better than your first design.

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    I like it, very nice. Nickel or EN coating sounds fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    How much extra might it be if you were to offer DLC?
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    I don't believe you can do Al in DLC (or AlTiN)


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    I don't suppose a copper head is an option....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nfetterly View Post
    I don't believe you can do Al in DLC (or AlTiN)
    No, it would probably have to be steel or titanium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archimedes View Post
    How much extra might it be if you were to offer DLC?

    The more I think about a "Carbon-Squared" in High-CRI, the more difficult I may find to resist....
    Actually I have some samples at a PVD coating company in LA as we type. Aluminum is no problem, they just "cook" it at a lower temperature.

    I'll be getting samples in TiN (gold), TiCN (grey), TiAlN (dark grey), and DLC (black). I have no clue what the cost will be yet.

    When I get the samples back (they are different grooving) I can take some photos with the carbon just to se how te colors look

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVoimakas View Post
    I don't suppose a copper head is an option....?
    Do you mean a raw copper head? If there is enough interest I can have them done at a machine shop. The copper is too abrasive for me to do it on my machine. It will basically ruin all of my tools. I'll put my copper head on the carbon body today and take some shots

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer6817j View Post
    Actually I have some samples at a PVD coating company in LA as we type. Aluminum is no problem, they just "cook" it at a lower temperature.

    I'll be getting samples in TiN (gold), TiCN (grey), TiAlN (dark grey), and DLC (black). I have no clue what the cost will be yet.

    When I get the samples back (they are different grooving) I can take some photos with the carbon just to se how te colors look
    Ahh, PVD, remember that now. I would be in for sure - BIG preference for DLC, but AlTiN would do.

    Presumably the tail would be coated the same as the head....
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    I really like this head design. And as someone previously said, I especially like the relief cuts that give the head its crenelation. And the CF body looks great, but I wonder how it would look like if it was naked CF.
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    +1 for hard chrome
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    Quote Originally Posted by whizdumb View Post
    That is the best looking head I've ever seen on a light.. Love the design (specifically how the long relief cuts through the fining turn into the bezel crenelation at the end) . Keep this up cuz it's a winning design in my book...
    Hah, thanks! I like the way that sounds

    Chrome is a possiblity...just requires two plating steps. You'd have to lay down a copper layer first. Depends on how much you are willing to pay

    badtziscool, what do you mean by "naked CF?"

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    here's a question that I think might sway some people...how much would the decreased plating costs for a chrome on copper head (if any) offset the increased machining costs?

    and just for me, do you have a single mode driver option?
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    Carbon Fiber is my weakness, plus the 18650 - Count me in. Lots of great ideas on the coating.

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    This light is really growing on me. I can possibly see a high CRI and a neutral(ish) XML.


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    Looks nice!

    I just sent you an email about some reflectors.

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    I want to see this happen! Sign me up! I would also like to see that head chrome plated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archer6817j View Post

    badtziscool, what do you mean by "naked CF?"
    I'm sorry. I used the wrong term. Not naked carbon fiber but dry carbon fiber. It where the cf doesn't have a shine on it. A matte finish?
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    Quote Originally Posted by badtziscool View Post
    I'm sorry. I used the wrong term. Not naked carbon fiber but dry carbon fiber. It where the cf doesn't have a shine on it. A matte finish?
    AFAIK the shine is the raw epoxy surface. You can sand the tubes to make them matte but this also removes all of the surface texture. You can have tubes made this way but it also costs more money because of the extra step.

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    Default Re: FEELER: Dark Sucks, Carbon Fiber bodied Alpha

    If there's an option on CF colors, I would personally prefer something with at least some true black in it
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