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    Default 500 Lumen - AAA Flashlight (photos) - Work In Progress

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    #Important: The MBI Torpedo is still in the planning stage - currently verifying feasibility of all features and planned settings.

    Hi Everyone,

    Thanks to everyone's great feedback,
    here is the concept/design of the new AAA flashlight Im planning to make.

    it comes with 1 head & 2 bodies

    1st body = AAA size
    2nd body = 10280 size

    Power Supply: 1V~5V
    This will run on anything that fits
    1.5V AAA
    Li-Ion 10440, 10450
    Li-Ion 10280

    Size:
    with AAA Body = 65mm Long, 14mm diameter
    with 10280 Body = 47.5mm Long, 14mm diameter



    Target price for the first run is $65 or less.

    Production Timing:
    expecting prototype end of November 2011
    1st production run about 1 month after that.

    1st step now is to get the prototype made.
    Clip design is not yet finalized.

    Also, the final length may increase (max of 10mm but hoping 5mm at most), depending on the final driver size.

    As always, I welcome your feedback.
    Oh, and be gentle but honest, this is my first "production" model light.



    tgwnn


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    What would the lumen rating be using Eneloops?

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    If I remember correctly, this will be a li-ion only light. I think it looks amazing. My only comment is that tailstanding on a light this size seems like it might not be a great idea. Given the size, any time in anything but level 1 or 2 without a hand dissapating heat may be problematic.
    That said, as a pocket light fanatic, I will gladly volunteer to test, photo, and generally drool over this light at any time. Oh, and I'll buy one too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    If I remember correctly, this will be a li-ion only light. I think it looks amazing. My only comment is that tailstanding on a light this size seems like it might not be a great idea. Given the size, any time in anything but level 1 or 2 without a hand dissapating heat may be problematic.
    That said, as a pocket light fanatic, I will gladly volunteer to test, photo, and generally drool over this light at any time. Oh, and I'll buy one too!
    Hi Smokelaw1,
    Thanks for the kind words, the driver can now support standard AAA's (1.5v) as well.
    There is auto-temperature control so if you use turbo mode (500 lumens) it will auto switch down to the next lowest mode when it gets too hot.


    @Gadgetman7
    Im planning for the lumen rating to be the same, regardless of battery type.

    tgwnn

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    I'm in for one! By Christmas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saypat View Post
    I'm in for one! By Christmas?
    Thanks Should be in time for Xmas!

    tgwnn

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    Hi Smokelaw1,
    Thanks for the kind words, the driver can now support standard AAA's (1.5v) as well.
    There is auto-temperature control so if you use turbo mode (500 lumens) it will auto switch down to the next lowest mode when it gets too hot.
    I sincerely apologize for putting old info out there. Will this thing reach full power on alks? I can't imagine 500 lumen on a standard AAA....but if you can do it...even for 30 seconds, well, I'll take 2!

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    I sincerely apologize for putting old info out there. Will this thing reach full power on alks? I can't imagine 500 lumen on a standard AAA....but if you can do it...even for 30 seconds, well, I'll take 2!
    No problem's at all! I should have made it clear but just wanted to put something up sooner rather than later.
    Yes, it should reach full power on alks (even though I expect the max burst will be 30 seconds) but I'll be able to confirm in the coming days as we work on the driver,
    and I we'll need to test how well the solid head can hold back the heat before we need to reduce the power consumption.

    Also, as we are really sucking a lot of juice from 1 cell (over max discharge for standard cells but heavy duties & IMR's would be ok), I dont think we can responsibly let it run on turbo beyond 30 sec's.
    It may end up somewhere between 15-30 depending on final testing.

    tgwnn

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    hmm, what is the sense of an AAA Li-ion only light? I mean ppl like AAA Batteries and Eneloops because they have tons of it and its available everywhere but AAA rechargable Li-Ion? It is a special product for a minority and it looks like the light will need more then one AAA so you can also take one wider Li-Ion rechargable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danielsan View Post
    hmm, what is the sense of an AAA Li-ion only light? I mean ppl like AAA Batteries and Eneloops because they have tons of it and its available everywhere but AAA rechargable Li-Ion? It is a special product for a minority and it looks like the light will need more then one AAA so you can also take one wider Li-Ion rechargable?
    Thanks for the feedback.

    Just updated the first post with info about power supply.
    This will run on standard AAA's (1.5V) as well as Li-Ion's.

    tgwnn

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    The torpedo tail looks cool, but i suspect it won't tailstand well under keycain/lanyard duty when a split ring is in the center knob?
    If you drill a hole in one of the torpedo fins, it can still tailstand with split ring installed. Then we have 2 attacthments to choose from. One hangs slightly crocked, but will be able to tailstand with keys/lanyard attatched. And the other hangs straight from the center knob, (but is harder to tailstand without using mcgyver tecnology). Everyone will be happy

    Cool that someone finally dares to make a little beast like this. Love the tiny flamethrowers
    Any chance of some neutral xm-l's for the tint snobs here ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorn View Post
    The torpedo tail looks cool, but i suspect it won't tailstand well under keycain/lanyard duty when a split ring is in the center knob?
    If you drill a hole in one of the torpedo fins, it can still tailstand with split ring installed. Then we have 2 attacthments to choose from. One hangs slightly crocked, but will be able to tailstand with keys/lanyard attatched. And the other hangs straight from the center knob, (but is harder to tailstand without using mcgyver tecnology). Everyone will be happy


    Thanks for the feedback.
    The hole is designed at an angle so that a split ring should be able to be positioned between the fins. Adding a hole in the fin is a good work around too.
    If you use a strap (the kind used for attaching trinkets to mobile phones) or even a metal type, it will sit just fine, and not get in the way when tail standing.

    Cool that someone finally dares to make a little beast like this. Love the tiny flamethrowers
    Any chance of some neutral xm-l's for the tint snobs here ??
    It took a lot of wrestling
    and the auto-thermal step-down should make it reasonably safe for non-flashaholics too.

    tgwnn

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    Thanks for the feedback.
    The hole is designed at an angle so that a split ring should be able to be positioned between the fins. Adding a hole in the fin is a good work around too.
    If you use a strap (the kind used for attaching trinkets to mobile phones) or even a metal type, it will sit just fine, and not get in the way when tail standing.
    It's the lobsterclaw on many lanyard's, or the big keychain spilt ring itself that I suspect may make tailstanding difficult when its attached to the small ring. I rarely tailstand my keychain aaa's, so it's no dealbreaker for me. But I like to be able to do a stable tailstand even if its on my bulky keychain. It's hard to please all, but the simple extra hole in a fin might please some extra customers


    Bought a neutral T4 E5 4000k at cutters, and stuffed it in my mini-x. Now I just love that little thing.
    Would be cool with a similar tinted xm-l.
    Don't mind some few lost lumens for better tint, and i bet im not the only one wanting a neutral tinted xm-l aaa flamethrower

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    Quote Originally Posted by jorn View Post
    Any chance of some neutral xm-l's for the tint snobs here ??
    Not sure just yet, but I can check.
    Do you know the exact bin number?

    tgwnn

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    Looks awesome! How is the UI worked? Rapid on/off twists or a progressive twisty? Or a reverse progressive twisty actually I guess, haha.

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    Really interesting light. Would love a pocket rocket like this. A real fan. Price???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid87 View Post
    Really interesting light. Would love a pocket rocket like this. A real fan. Price???
    Thanks. I have added target price to first post.

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    Apart from insane power output (that will be extremely hard to achieve), these two things do not match together: XM-L LED and reflector. This led is too big for such a tiny reflector, therefore this light will be plain flooder (with a lot of light loss on a small reflector). So, either give up the reflector and make it real pure flooder (like older Zebralights) or use XP-G LED that is easier to focus (and only a couple of percent less effixient than XM-L). Percieved brightness depends a lot on throw capabilities, so a properly focused 250lm light will appear much brighter than 500lm pure flooder.

    Taking into account all the risks, restrictions, heat issues, trouble with circuit, wouldn't it be better to focus on the ~150lm level (which is still 2x higher than the popular manufacturers offerings)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolperl View Post
    Apart from insane power output (that will be extremely hard to achieve), these two things do not match together: XM-L LED and reflector. This led is too big for such a tiny reflector, therefore this light will be plain flooder (with a lot of light loss on a small reflector). So, either give up the reflector and make it real pure flooder (like older Zebralights) or use XP-G LED that is easier to focus (and only a couple of percent less effixient than XM-L). Percieved brightness depends a lot on throw capabilities, so a properly focused 250lm light will appear much brighter than 500lm pure flooder.

    Taking into account all the risks, restrictions, heat issues, trouble with circuit, wouldn't it be better to focus on the ~150lm level (which is still 2x higher than the popular manufacturers offerings)?
    In terms of whats practical, you could well be right.
    But for a lumeaniac, the obsession with more is not easy to satisfy.

    It might be similar to buying a porsche capable of 220Miles p/h (350km p/h).
    In reality you'll probably never, ever, ever, need all that power,
    but the satisfaction of knowing that you can, brings a smile to your face,
    every time you get into the car.

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    id be interested in an olive drab version

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    In terms of whats practical, you could well be right.
    But for a lumeaniac, the obsession with more is not easy to satisfy.

    It might be similar to buying a porsche capable of 220Miles p/h (350km p/h).
    In reality you'll probably never, ever, ever, need all that power,
    but the satisfaction of knowing that you can, brings a smile to your face,
    every time you get into the car.
    Copy that, guy_with_no_name.
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    Might be worthwhile starting a buyers list that way people that have expressed interest. I would be annoyed to miss out on the first production run.
    Steven

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acid87 View Post
    Might be worthwhile starting a buyers list that way people that have expressed interest. I would be annoyed to miss out on the first production run.
    Steven
    Thanks Steve, thats a good idea.
    I just mailed Greta to check on a few points.
    I might start with just a simple mailing list where you can add your email address to stay updated,
    and once my first prototype is ready with closer to final specs, I can start a sales thread.
    Suggestion are most welcome.

    tgwnn

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_guy_with_no_name View Post
    Fully Tighten = OFF



    Just be sure to let us know if that particular feature somehow reverses itself between now & production time cough DQG IIcough.

    I wasn't in your feeler thread to lobby for a more moderate ~.3/3/30/300 distribution. Not that it would have mattered, because you seem to understand (& relish) the fact that 500l is beyond ridiculous! Something between 10 & 100 lumens especially would be have been nice for general use. Either way I have to fully support this project because I'm rooting for you to make it to round two: AA style. And by the way Toyota makes a nice car too, okay?


    You see I ordered a torpedo from a guy with no name
    Five hundred lumens is kind of insane
    With the torpedo, it always tightens the same
    Cause it ain't turning on in your pocket again
    la la la la la la la...

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    OH why do I keep reading new threads?

    I really like the concept, even though 500 lumens is just ridiculous for a small light like that. I know I want one and also that more reasonnable 300 lumen neutral model that I'm sure you'll be forced to come up with. Lower output with alkalines sounds good, especially for people who might use it in emergencies

    Will the clip be removable or very low profile??

    Oh, and great interface by the way! I'm not crazy about going off/on with twisties, and the fully twisted = off par too: finally a twistie you don't need to double-check before pocketing.

    [edit:] (starting to feel like a kid on a sugar rush)

    OH! almost forgot: how about a TIR clip-on adapter for throw (if that's possible)... would solve the TIR issue and give us both flood AND throw with the same light!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataract View Post
    OH! almost forgot: how about a TIR clip-on adapter for throw (if that's possible)... would solve the TIR issue and give us both flood AND throw with the same light!!!
    I don't THINK that's possible due to the required position of the TIR relative to the LED, but man....if it were, how cool would that be? Maybe even have it so it could slide in a pre-drilled storage compartment on the back of the light. Yeah......modular AAA 500 lumen light with alk usabilty, off to tighten, tailstanding.....ohhhhhh my........

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokelaw1 View Post
    I don't THINK that's possible due to the required position of the TIR relative to the LED, but man....if it were, how cool would that be? Maybe even have it so it could slide in a pre-drilled storage compartment on the back of the light. Yeah......modular AAA 500 lumen light with alk usabilty, off to tighten, tailstanding.....ohhhhhh my........
    It's possible. Just need to find a lense with the right focal length, and small enough diameter
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    @Hiro_Protagonist- Thanks

    @jabe1- Thanks
    Looks like there are a few requests for a neutral tint.
    Might be the 2nd run, but I will check to see if we could get a few in the first run as we get closer to production time.

    @Art
    >If it is able to do 1lumen for a really long time with NIMH and have more the 100lumens also with NIMH Im in!
    I believe that should be possible.

    >BTW , what would it be made off? Any titanium?
    For now, version 1 is Aluminium, Type III/HA,
    and likely Black (matte).

    After the first run, based on demand, I would welcome requests for additional materials such as SS,Ti, etc

    Thank you,
    tgwnn

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    If the tighten to off feature happens you can put me down for 2 units right now. Ya know, those fins on the tail are pretty nicely sized for a 1.5 x 5mm trit (hint hint).

    *edit*

    Looking again, with glasses on, I see that the fins are too small. Ignore the trit lust, OR make em bigger. Still jazzed about the tighten to off feature tho.
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    Great poem Leon! If we all start buying torpedos from a guy with no name, we might all get put on some kind of list! For those folks outside of the US, you might want to remove the word "torpedo" from the invoice for the sake of customs.

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