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    Default Peak Eiger, now with Nichia 119-H1 High CRI

    warm, high CRI. The same LED seen here.

    In stainless 10180, stainless 10280, and stainless or aluminum AAA sizes.
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    Default Re: Peak Eiger, now with Nichia 119-H1 High CRI

    I'm glad to see more of the Nichia 119's being offered but $30 extra for the Nichia 119 option over the standard XPG is too much IMO unless it is an aftermarket mod?

    EDIT: ElectronGuru, sorry didn't realize it was your website, I assume it is an aftermarket mod then which makes the price acceptable.
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    Yes, we spent nearly a year locating and importing these ourselves and having them installed. They are not available from the factory and may not be done again.
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    Default Re: Peak Eiger, now with Nichia 119-H1 High CRI

    Wow, with the high-CRI option, the Eiger rises straight to the top of my wish list!
    Which beam profile comes with your Eigers: narrow (reflector), medium (18 degree optic), or wide (30-degree reflector)?
    Or does the high-CRI Eiger use only its own built-in optic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_in_Maryland View Post
    Which beam profile comes with your Eigers: narrow (reflector), medium (18 degree optic), or wide (30-degree reflector)?
    Narrow optic, actually. Here's a close up, side view

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    4500K, high CRI. The same LED seen here.

    In stainless 10180, stainless 10280, and stainless or aluminum AAA sizes.
    any chance on size comparisons of the three? new to the flash world and i saw the batt. size of the 10180 but not the 280s.

    I'm looking more for something smaller, something to wear so i'm thinking 10180.

    do you know the run times with the stock LED and the max output OTF lumens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_in_Maryland View Post
    Wow, with the high-CRI option, the Eiger rises straight to the top of my wish list!
    Which beam profile comes with your Eigers: narrow (reflector), medium (18 degree optic), or wide (30-degree reflector)?
    Or does the high-CRI Eiger use only its own built-in optic?
    Why get a high-cri option versus the stock LED? do you know the compasion of lumens between the two LED's?

    Sorry, as mentioned, i'm knew to the names of the LED's and acronyms so i'm learning as i go. Ideally, i'd love to have something like a lummi (i know the current status of that manuf. ) or a draco and hopefully, the newest run of the 38dd. this little dude seems like the way to go for now.

    in the end, i'm looking for something tiny, and bright and wearable.

    thanks folks.

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    any chance on size comparisons of the three? new to the flash world and i saw the batt. size of the 10180 but not the 280s.
    You can see them both in the center of this image. The 280 is the same length as a long door key. The 180 is more like a padlock key, about 2 inches. The choice is better made relative to lumen use and runtime. The 180 is better run usually on low, sometimes on high. The 280 is better for 'usually high' use.


    do you know the run times with the stock LED and the max output OTF lumens?
    We don't have numbers yet, but runtime on high at these sizes is usually measured in minutes, not hours. If you want to recharge only once a week with occasional use, get the 280 for sure.


    Why get a high-cri option versus the stock LED? do you know the compasion of lumens between the two LED's?
    The Cree is visibly brighter. But with the cool color, there's also more glare. I would guess the Nichia to be half as bright, probably under 100 lumens. Its really how important color is to you. If you need to accurately read maps or diagnose based on skin color, totally worth it. For just walking down dark stairs, not so much.


    in the end, i'm looking for something tiny, and bright and wearable.
    Sounds like the XPG to me. But either way you select, an exchange is no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    Narrow optic, actually. Here's a close up, side view
    Nice, narrow optic sound great!

    Wow only 4 left.

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    Make that three left. AAA AL body with the momentary switch. I can't wait to see this beam. I already have a medium optic SS AAA keychain QTC Eiger (what a mouth full) that I really like. This may end up replacing it. I have a few questions more about the Eiger in general.

    1. Does anyone know if the momentary switch will thread into the rear of the key ring body? I ask because I have a SS QTC key ring body. I would like to be able to use the AL or SS body with the switch.

    2. Are the extended 2xAAA bodies available anywhere at the moment? I have a feeling that this will end up being my "be all end all" pen light with a few eneloops!
    I'm looking for a Spyderco Cat C129CF & Chicago C130CF! LMK if you have one that you're willing to part with.

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    1. Does anyone know if the momentary switch will thread into the rear of the key ring body?
    There are 3 styles of Eiger body:

    short/flat (pocket)
    short/lug (keychain)
    long keychain/momentary

    Only the long one has the space in the bottom to house the length of the momentary switches plunger. Both of the short bodies are head activation only.


    2. Are the extended 2xAAA bodies available anywhere at the moment?
    Peak is still completing the conversion to QTC. 2AAA's are next.

    BTW, 2AAA are only available in long key/mom

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    This is one of those, order now, think about it later type deals!!

    Order placed!!
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    OK, I'm ready to order a 2AAA high-CRI Eiger for my daughter, who is in medical school. But I don't see a choice that specifically says "momentary" or "2AAA." How can I select a 2AAA body? Will I need to buy a high-CRI Eiger from you with a 1AAA body, then buy a 2AAA non-QTC body elsewhere?

    Or is your "long body" a "2AAA QTC with momentary"? I'm guessing it's not, since your quotation below suggests that no QTC 2AAA bodies have been produced.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    There are 3 styles of Eiger body:

    short/flat (pocket)
    short/lug (keychain)
    long keychain/momentary

    Only the long one has the space in the bottom to house the length of the momentary switches plunger. Both of the short bodies are head activation only.




    Peak is still completing the conversion to QTC. 2AAA's are next.

    BTW, 2AAA are only available in long key/mom
    Last edited by Paul_in_Maryland; 09-15-2011 at 05:05 PM. Reason: to clarify
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru

    There are 3 styles of Eiger body:

    short/flat (pocket)
    short/lug (keychain)
    long keychain/momentary

    Only the long one has the space in the bottom to house the length of the momentary switches plunger. Both of the short bodies are head activation only.

    Peak is still completing the conversion to QTC. 2AAA's are next.

    BTW, 2AAA are only available in long key/mom


    Thank you for the reply and also for making this available to the CPF community! I'll just have to be patient and wait to complete my penlight. For the time being, I can't wait to get this little torch in my hands!
    I'm looking for a Spyderco Cat C129CF & Chicago C130CF! LMK if you have one that you're willing to part with.

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    I'm looking for a Spyderco Cat C129CF & Chicago C130CF! LMK if you have one that you're willing to part with.

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    Default Re: Peak Eiger, now with Nichia 119-H1 High CRI

    If the stock levels are to be believed I just bought the last normal AAA sized light with the Nichia LED. I followed the pay now, think later philosophy. Figure I could flip on MP if I am not happy with it. I doubt that will be the case. Damn you Oveready and your sourcing prowess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eala View Post
    If the stock levels are to be believed I just bought the last normal AAA sized light with the Nichia LED.
    Yeah it looks like the Nichia 119's are gone. That was fast.

    Whoever gets these please post some beamshots showing off color rendering of the High CRI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_dAY View Post
    Yeah it looks like the Nichia 119's are gone. That was fast.

    Whoever gets these please post some beamshots showing off color rendering of the High CRI.
    There are still 5 Nichias left in the SS smaller battery ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    There are still 5 Nichias left in the SS smaller battery ones.
    Ah thanks for that, I had only checked under the AAA category.

    Are all the heads with the Nichia 119 the same type of head since the bodies are interchangeable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_dAY View Post
    Ah thanks for that, I had only checked under the AAA category.

    Are all the heads with the Nichia 119 the same type of head since the bodies are interchangeable?
    Yup, level 8, at least the two XPG QTC heads I already own are level 8's. I have a SS AAA body with QTC and a ground down Oveready clip with momentary switch mines going on to.

    I'll throw the xpg head on the Al body, lol.
    (credit to deaths head for clip idea!)
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    Thanks again for the clarification PSM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliceScannerMan View Post
    There are still 5 Nichias left in the SS smaller battery ones.
    Tempting, but I can't see spending $98 to get the high-CRI LED and head. For someone else, this will be a clever way to begin to build this CRI penlight. But not for this family man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_in_Maryland View Post
    OK, I'm ready to order a 2AAA high-CRI Eiger for my daughter, who is in medical school. But I don't see a choice that specifically says "momentary" or "2AAA." How can I select a 2AAA body?
    Quote Originally Posted by Diablo_331 View Post
    Thank you for the reply and also for making this available to the CPF community! I'll just have to be patient and wait to complete my penlight. For the time being, I can't wait to get this little torch in my hands!
    Sorry for the confusion. 2AAA bodies are still in production. When ready, they will be listed on their own page, with switch and head options.

    We are also planning a AAA specific clip that will work with the 2AAA setup



    Quote Originally Posted by eala View Post
    If the stock levels are to be believed I just bought the last normal AAA sized light with the Nichia LED. I followed the pay now, think later philosophy.
    We release high demand items at staggard times, to give other time zones a shot.


    Quote Originally Posted by eala View Post
    Figure I could flip on MP if I am not happy with it. I doubt that will be the case. Damn you Oveready and your sourcing prowess.
    All OR shipments include a 30 day unconditional satisfaction guarantee.


    Quote Originally Posted by THE_dAY View Post
    Are all the heads with the Nichia 119 the same type of head since the bodies are interchangeable?
    All Eiger heads work on all Eiger bodies and all Logan heads work on all Logan bodies.

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    "We release high demand items at staggard times, to give other time zones a shot."

    Does this mean you have more 17500 Logans stashed away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    You can see them both in the center of this image. The 280 is the same length as a long door key. The 180 is more like a padlock key, about 2 inches. The choice is better made relative to lumen use and runtime. The 180 is better run usually on low, sometimes on high. The 280 is better for 'usually high' use.




    We don't have numbers yet, but runtime on high at these sizes is usually measured in minutes, not hours. If you want to recharge only once a week with occasional use, get the 280 for sure.




    The Cree is visibly brighter. But with the cool color, there's also more glare. I would guess the Nichia to be half as bright, probably under 100 lumens. Its really how important color is to you. If you need to accurately read maps or diagnose based on skin color, totally worth it. For just walking down dark stairs, not so much.




    Sounds like the XPG to me. But either way you select, an exchange is no problem.
    thanks again for the help and information, much appreciated. one more thing,
    This cell is unprotected, avoid deep discharge.

    what does that mean on the rechargeable battery? not familiar with that terminology.

    thanks!

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    double post, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    ....We don't have numbers yet, but runtime on high at these sizes is usually measured in minutes, not hours. If you want to recharge only once a week with occasional use, get the 280 for sure....
    Doing some rough calculations, based on prior XP-G data-sheets from Curt, I calculate a runtime of approximately 11 minutes on max ("#8 power") - to 50% output - with a 200 mAh Li-Ion 10280 .... that is, if I have done the math correctly

    Of course, a 10180 will have much less capacity, and runtime, than a 10280. Also, keep in mind that those times are for max output - the great utility of the QTC with these bitty lights is that you can dial up only as much light as you need or want. Since the QTC is not really a resistor, it is incredibly efficient, thereby preserving runtime dramatically with lower output (as opposed to just wasting it as excess heat).

    Although I haven't done a proper runtime test, these numbers do seem reasonable based on my everyday use of these tiny Eiger batteries and tubes.

    These make great keychain lights, I now use my 10180 Eiger daily. Thanks much for providing this new High-CRI emitter option, I am very tempted ....



    Quote Originally Posted by ravot View Post
    thanks again for the help and information, much appreciated. one more thing,
    This cell is unprotected, avoid deep discharge. what does that mean on the rechargeable battery? not familiar with that terminology.
    thanks!
    For safety, Li-Ion cells need to be kept within their proper voltage range at all times. Overcharging, or over-discharging, can cause problems - Protected cells include a circuit that monitors voltage to help prevent or minimize damage from improper use, but adds to the size of the cell (and introduces a bit of power drain). Since 10180 and 10280 batteries are designed to be as small as possible and have very limited capacity, they are not generally available with protection circuits.
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    Even though I just purchased a Peak SS QTC 10180 this week, I couldn't pass up another one with a Nichia 119-H1 high CRI. My first one arrived today and I can't believe how tough and super tiny it is. Gonna have to put this little fella on a P-7 suspension clip.
    Four 10180 and five 10280 with the Nichia 119-H1 high CRI are still available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabe1 View Post
    Does this mean you have more 17500 Logans stashed away?
    We have a few bodies and heads left, but are temporarily out of the momentary switches that make them so compelling. I may put the remainder up, minus the switch option.

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    Any chance of purchasing only the Oveready High-CRI head ???

    I already have just about every variation of Eiger body/battery tube at this point
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    Sure thing. Head Only option added to the AAA page

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