The SureFire P2X-B "Fury" 500lu flashlight thread

[Dr. Strangelove]

The main reason SureFire ever went from Lexan to tempered glass is because the window was susceptible to 'melting' damage from the high temperatures generated from the high-output incandescents. Given this isn't an issue with LEDs the reasons not to use polycarbonate are less clear cut.

Your'e right, polycarbonate is less likely to break than glass so it is superior in that regard. And SureFire glass is 4-5mm thick, my guess is for strength (I'm talking about the pyrex lenses, not TIR optics). But the polycarbonate lens used in the 6PX and G2X scratches very easily. I scratched one of mine badly when I wasn't thinking and cleaned it with a paper towel. Won't do that again...

[kyhunter1]

A 500 lumen stock Surefire thrower for under $200, Im in!

[jh333233]

Clicky UI...
IMO 15/500 lm should be used 2 stage twisties, and why the heck lexan lens?! Pyrex looks like tougher!
**Pre-order and expected in mid Dec** <-- Even the old cat LX1 isnt out

[Size15's]

Clicky UI...
IMO 15/500 lm should be used 2 stage twisties, and why the heck lexan lens?! Pyrex looks like tougher!
**Pre-order and expected in mid Dec** <-- Even the old cat LX1 isnt out

By using existing current model X-type handhelds and adapting the bezel it looks like SureFire are able to bring it to market far more quickly compared to modifying any of the two-stage platforms.

The LX1 is shelved with effectively no hope of production. Has been so for ages

[Federal LG]

Surefire kept secret about this new "Fury" and it even didn´t appear in their last catalog, and here it is: a brand new Surefire model...

That´s why I still believe in the LX1!

Maybe I´ll change my signature: "I still believe in SF LX1!!"

Edit: Ops... I read now about Al´s statement about LX1... Well, I still have hope. Or faith. Something like that...

[DM51]

Surefire kept secret about this new "Fury" and it even didn´t appear in their last catalog, and here it is: a brand new Surefire model...

That is an improvement on previous occasions when they have announced new products and later cancelled them.

[Federal LG]

That is an improvement on previous occasions when they have announced new products and later cancelled them.

True.

Well, maybe they are unpredictable.

[Kif]

500 Surefire lumens on 2 cell light

[BIGLOU]

OMG I was OK with the lights that I have and now this. I'm going to have to order me one. My next SF was going to be the Lawman if it ever comes out.

It definately looks like the Stratum and the G2D-S-BK

[TyJo]

I want to compare this to other recent offerings from other manufacturers but I don't feel it's appropriate based on the traditional Surefire target consumer... but... If Surefire would get an IPX8 water resistant rating (which they probably could do easily) and allow some 18650s they would probably snag a huge market segment with this light.

[scot]

I'm wondering about it's compatibility with RCR123, 17670, or 18650's. Would really be nice if it were to produce the same output no matter what cells are used......
Kinda like the Quark X123x2, same outputs regardless of running on one cel or two. That's a big deal!!!!
Most of my Surefire's produce less lumens when run on a single LI ion vs two 123's.
I guess we'll see when they finally arrive.

[purelite]

hey BigLou, I want that light!!

[jh333233]

I want to compare this to other recent offerings from other manufacturers but I don't feel it's appropriate based on the traditional Surefire target consumer... but... If Surefire would get an IPX8 water resistant rating (which they probably could do easily) and allow some 18650s they would probably snag a huge market segment with this light.

Impossible for 18650,
SF intended to let people using CR123a lithium only
IPX8, well actually the lights are capable of it but due to surefire's warranty policy, it would be an expensive bill for them to pay for water-damage

[Federal LG]

Surefire Lawman?

What? Where? When??

[2000xlt]

LA policegear

[steveG]

Oh man. I've really been wanting a "wow" light for a while now. I also wanted to buy something made in the U.S. At a $155, this Surefire will be hard to resist! I can't wait to see reviews and beam shots!

[ganymede]

IIRC, Lawman is a rechargeable model.

[Schuey2002]

I think I might have to get one of these...

[FlashSpyJ]

Woh! I think Im starting to like SF again!

One Q though...Can you put the the Fury head, or 6PX, on a G2X body??

[jh333233]

Woh! I think Im starting to like SF again!

One Q though...Can you put the the Fury head, or 6PX, on a G2X body??

Isnt likely to
6PX is a one-pieced body
And Fury too

[FlashSpyJ]

Ah! I see... Haven't handled any of the new SF lights.

Thanks!

[carrot]

The 6PX is not a one piece body. The body separates from the head and tail cap like all the other SF lights. It is not meant to, however.

[Size15's]

SureFire's latest line of LED flashlights, lets call them X-type LED flashlights, have bezels that are 'glued' to the bodies. The bezel is not designed nor intended to be removed by the user. Doing so likely voids the lifetime warranty.
Batteries are replaced by unscrewing the TailCap.

[Tulku]

I like the look of this one - does anyone know if this has a p60 size lamp? (will I be able to fit a Malcoff in there?)

[Norm]

I like the look of this one - does anyone know if this has a p60 size lamp? (will I be able to fit a Malcoff in there?)

Did you read Size 15's post immediately above your post?
Norm

[Tulku]

Did you read Size 15's post immediately above your post?
Norm

Thanks Norm,

I see that he is implying separating glued parts would void Surefire's warranty -I'm wondering what size the lamp is and if it is a modular assembly ... (More specifically, can I put an M61 in there)

Am I in the wrong place to ask this type of question?

[Size15's]

Perhaps the most important change SureFire has made with their latest line of LED flashlights, lets call them X-type LED flashlights, is to do away with the removable "Lamp Assembly" and have the LED mounted directly into the bezel.
This means the bezel does not have to be removable [because there are no user-replaceable components inside] and is therefore 'glued' to the body.
This means the bezel threads can be shorter as the joint/seal doesn't have to cope with a lifetime of users. The overall length of the flashlight can therefore reduce.

More importantly, the LED and electronics inside the bezel are installed directly to metal that is part of the bezel allowing heat to transfer directly to the whole bezel. LEDs can be driven harder for longer because the heat they generate is more effectively managed and the lifespan of the LED is maintained.

Al

[neal71]

edited to remove content we have a MarketPlace for.

[dano]

Thanks Norm,

I see that he is implying separating glued parts would void Surefire's warranty -I'm wondering what size the lamp is and if it is a modular assembly ... (More specifically, can I put an M61 in there)

Am I in the wrong place to ask this type of question?

Why would you? When there's numerous hosts available for P60 style drop-ins?

[Tommygun45]

What's the deal with the tip of that bezel? It looks like it is unscrewable. Also I noticed the 5.2" length as compared to the 5.4" of the 6PX. Do you guys think this is some way of fixing the bump mode changing issue? Compress the batteries a bit more to give them less room to wiggle? I had a 6PX Pro I had to sell because I just couldn't get over that. Now if they fixed it, doubled the output, and kept it about the same size, well now we're talking.