The SureFire P2X-B "Fury" 500lu flashlight thread

[Vox Clamatis in Deserto]

Will SF put a glass lens on it?

As far as I know, they already have.

How about a smooth reflector?

That might not be such a good idea from my recent experience with XM-L emitters. A smooth reflector seems to accentuate the sickly green aura around the hotspot in a couple of my other lights.

[dmz]

Wouldn't a smooth reflector give it more throw?

I wish there was a tail cap stand option.

I prefer a crenelated bezel. Crenelated bezel is offered in many of the SF handhelds.

[Tommygun45]

I don't have one but I am pretty sure a Malkoff MD2 tailcap will fit on these. They allow tailstanding and are only 25 bucks to boot.

Wouldn't a smooth reflector give it more throw?

I wish there was a tail cap stand option.

I prefer a crenelated bezel. Crenelated bezel is offered in many of the SF handhelds.

[jalcon]

I could be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure the early batches of these did in fact have a glass lens, but the current production one's do not.

As far as upgrading the fury, I think that's what some of surefire's other new 500 lumen pocket blasters for 2012 are. (i.e., UM2 Ultra, DM2 Defender, ZM2 Combatlight, LX2 Lumamax Ultra)

[Hitthespot]

I could be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure the early batches of these did in fact have a glass lens, but the current production one's do not.

I think you have it backwards. According to "Size 15" Surefire changed to a glass lens sometime during production. So all of the later shipments should have glass lenses. I have one from the latest shipment from SureFire and mine is Glass.

As far as changes to this model I don't think we will see any. SureFire has shown plans for a lot of different light releases, not the least of which is the L2X ultra (500 lumens). I would love to get my hands on that one, and I hope SureFire does in fact release it.

My only complaint with the SureFire Fury is no middle ground. I could use a middle setting much more than a real low setting. So I would like to see a 120 lumen low or a 120 lumen middle setting and they can keep the low.

[Size15's]

SureFire propose a new model - the "DM2" Defender with a crenelated 'Strike Bezel'.
The 2012 catalog has it with a TIR optic and dual output - first 500 lumens, with the second output being 15 lumens.
There's even the possibility of an alternative version with SureFire's two-stage push button pressure switch TailCap. (1st stage being 15 lumens, 2nd "mash down" stage being 500 lumens).

SureFire may also release a single-output version of the Fury (P2X-A) with simply the 500 lumen output.

[Glock 22]

Yes! kyhunter1 is telling you right on the throw, because he tested my fury and his, and both was the same on the throw distance.

Are you sure? my Led Lenser MT7 have only 200 lumens and it's beam throws pretty good out about 250 meters....
and are anybody knows which flashlight is better-SureFire P2X ''Fury'' or the Led Lenser X14?

[thedofuss]

I have not beeen able to confirm, but any Surefire with 500 lumens for $160 is, IMHO, not possible. They make a premium light and charge a significant premium for it. Don't hold your breath for this one.

[Crushmaster]

I have not beeen able to confirm, but any Surefire with 500 lumens for $160 is, IMHO, not possible. They make a premium light and charge a significant premium for it. Don't hold your breath for this one.

It's available for even less than that some places Online, so, yes, it's quite possible.
God bless,
Joel ><>.

[thedofuss]

Hold the press! I must restate my prior response--sorry. I just went to the Surefire site (2/20/12), and behold: they do feature the stated, 500 lumen light, and at $155! Yikes. What am I missing--this is a seeming no brainer.

[dmz]

Brightguy & LAPG has the fury for $108

[thedofuss]

you can buy on www.amazon.com, for the straight 500 lumens, or for the 15/500 version. anybody have one? sounds too good to be true.

[Robin24k]

There's only one version of the P2X, the sellers just titled their listings differently. Both say 15 lumens low and 500 lumens high in the description.

[dmz]

Why bother with the G2X / G2X Pro / 6PX / 6PX Pro when the P2X Fury is $108 & 500 LM?

[jh333233]

Why bother with the G2X / G2X Pro / 6PX / 6PX Pro when the P2X Fury is $108 & 500 LM?

Some guys need a 200lm(or high mode) blast without delay(15->500, thats the delay), a single second alters result, may even leads to fatality.

[Xacto]

Why bother with the G2X / G2X Pro / 6PX / 6PX Pro when the P2X Fury is $108 & 500 LM?

Because indoors 500lm can be too much, when 200lm are just right (in case of the Pro) or you just do not like multi-mode lights and thus go the Tactical line with a single, 200lm mode.

Cheers
Thorsten

[Solscud007]

I posted my Fist of Fury. Well I present the sequel: Fists of Fury. The wife came back from her trip and brought our second freebie Fury home. Now it's off to its new owner. (I traded one for a SWM V10R Ti with extender)

[Solscud007]

I honestly would like a single mode Fury or have it activate like like the E2DL where high comes on first. But I do find it amusing when people try the Fury, look dissapointed at the 15 lumens. Then I tell them hit the switch off and on again. Then they blind themselves haha.

[shramj]

I know they are backordered at BJ but I was able to find it online at Nalpak for $108.50 and if you use code "sureship" you will get discounted shipping. I order it yesterday and they were able to ship it out yesterday as well so it seems like they are on top of their stuff over there. I should have mine tomorrow and then I can post my thoughts on the light after I play with it.

[madx312]

"But I do find it amusing when people try the Fury, look dissapointed at the 15 lumens. Then I tell them hit the switch off and on again. Then they blind themselves haha. "

Haha reminds me of the time when my college physics professor needed a light for demonstrating how polarizing material works and I let her use my E2DL (her bulb burned out in her light). Only instead of being disappointing in its brightness, it was too bright and the polarized film didn't block all the light. So I told her to quickly click the switch off and on and she was pleased with the nice 5 lumens of non-retina searing light.

This also my first post! Greeting CPF members!

-madx312

[shramj]

I just got my Fury; I have to say that my lense appears to be glass (serial# A69687). I can't wait for it to get dark outside so I can play around with this thing. I know some people are disappointed that it is on low when you turn it on and then you can turn it to high. I don't see why this is such a concern to people unless you are a LEO or in the military. You just tap the button then give it like half a second to a second and then push the button in again and you are on high. This works on both using the button momentarily (half way) and also when fully pushing the button in. I wish it came with a clip on it but I will look at purchasing one online from another vendor. Anyways, if this is any indication of the new Surefires for 2012, we are all in for a treat. I am really impressed with the price of it as well.

[Solscud007]

It is a tactical issue. In moment of stress it is really difficult to gather your thoughts let alone try to double tap anything. Trust me I have seen it in person. target shooting at a range with movement and transitioning to different targets with a timer is already stressful enough. People have challenges even doing it with the lights on. Then I had them turn the lights off and do it again. some gave up when they had malfunctions and some had operator issues holding a light while shooting. Having one less thing to switch for full blast 500 would be nice. they should offer the light in a tactical version.

[shramj]

I believe when the new 500 lumen Defender light come out, it will have 500 lumen come on initially and will then have a 15 lumen setting 2nd, kinda like the Fury but opposite. The Defender would be a great night stand light if you ask me.

[KeyGrip]

they should offer the light in a tactical version.

I would be surprised if they didn't. Seems logical if this light is the beefed-up version of the 6PX Pro that they'd also give us a single mode, twistie tailcap "tactical" version like the 6PX Tac.

[Robin24k]

Runtime graph for the P2X with SF123A and LFP123A (SureFire OEM rechargeable 123A)...

Temperature around 1 hour into the test was >124°F on the body of the light. I touched the tailcap while taking the temperature and actually burned my finger...it's definately much too hot for handheld operation.

[Robert_M]

Thanks Robin24k for taking the time to do this run time test!

[schurtjl]

Runtime graph for the P2X with SF123A and LFP123A (SureFire OEM rechargeable 123A)...

Temperature around 1 hour into the test was >124°F on the body of the light. I touched the tailcap while taking the temperature and actually burned my finger...it's definately much too hot for handheld operation.

Was that temp with the lithium phosphate's or the primaries? Seems excessive?

[Robin24k]

Primaries (rechargeables won't last an hour on high). It's not designed for extended operation on high mode, but that heat is going to get dissipated if you leave it on that long.

[Toohotruk]

If you were holding it for that whole length of time, it wouldn't have gotten as hot though due to your hand aiding in heat transfer.

[pulstar]

Hi guys,

after a few hours searching for european vendors, i came across a thread where someone compared G2X and P2X Fury. I think many of you will find this very helpful:

http://www.taschenlampen-forum.de/su...-2xcr123a.html