The SureFire P2X-B "Fury" 500lu flashlight thread

[JohnnyLunar]

What's the deal with the tip of that bezel? It looks like it is unscrewable. Also I noticed the 5.2" length as compared to the 5.4" of the 6PX. Do you guys think this is some way of fixing the bump mode changing issue? Compress the batteries a bit more to give them less room to wiggle? I had a 6PX Pro I had to sell because I just couldn't get over that. Now if they fixed it, doubled the output, and kept it about the same size, well now we're talking.

Actually, Surefire has fixed the mode bump issue on the 6PX/G2X line. I know because I had one of the original faulty G2X Pro models, sent it in to Surefire, and they sent me a brand new replacement G2X Pro that works flawlessly. Others who have bought 6PX/G2X lights recently, seem to also have no issues. It was something that was going on with early models (the ones with the "introductory prices"), but seems to have been completely fixed in recent models.

[Tommygun45]

Good to know. Hadn't heard that but that is a good sign.

Actually, Surefire has fixed the mode bump issue on the 6PX/G2X line. I know because I had one of the original faulty G2X Pro models, sent it in to Surefire, and they sent me a brand new replacement G2X Pro that works flawlessly. Others who have bought 6PX/G2X lights recently, seem to also have no issues. It was something that was going on with early models (the ones with the "introductory prices"), but seems to have been completely fixed in recent models.

[hiluxxulih]

Well I bought a Fury on the bay , now the wait starts , I think I will downsize my collection , goodbye Surefire M6 and the Olights .

[Quiksilver]

Looks neat.

I was unimpressed with my 6PX Pro. Its an okay light, but if it gets bumped it switches from low<-->high. Also the plastic lens was kind of a bummer. I mean, IMO that is not a corner that should be cut. I'd rather pay $125 for a light with a glass lens, than $115 for a light with a plastic lens.

I am also unimpressed by the smooth surface. I'd much rather have a textile surface than a smooth "futuristic" non-practical surface.

Apparently the Fury will cost approx. $190 to customers in my location, which is too much for a light in this form-factor. It's competing with my upgraded 6P, and it comes up lacking. That plastic lens and non-textile body really do knock it down a couple pegs. Looks like they are keeping the same X-class tailswitch, which as I said above, has its problems with unwanted mode-switching.

To throw a bone to SureFire, I had an opportunity to get my hands on a E1B the other day. Man is it a beautiful, compact and comfortable little light. Dang if I don't want to fork out for one. The desire is irrational as I have 'better' lights in its size/weight class, but again dang if it isn't a nice little unit.

[Craig K]

I would buy this light in a flash but I am not going to because I know how easily the plastic lens gets all scratched up, what was Surefire thinking putting these easy scratch plastic lens in there new lights, I won't go near them because of the lens, even just wiping the lens with a soft cloth leaves scratches on it.

I bet a lot of people if they buy this light and it has the plastic lens they will be disappointed because it just scratches up to easy.

[DM51]

A few scratches on the lens won't make any perceptible difference in the performance of the light. Plastic/lexan has the advantage of being break-proof, which in many real-world circumstances is a pretty big point in its favor.

[pjandyho]

I don't know how some scratches got on my 6PX Pro. They do leave some unwanted shadows on the spill beam. That said, it doesn't really bother me much in real world use. I guess it depends on individual, whether he thinks break proof is more important than scratch proof.

[Kestrel]

[...] scratched [...] scratch [...] scratches
... it has the plastic lens they will be disappointed because it just scratches up to easy.

I confess that I am most interested in your last sentence - since you are stating that the lens on the SF P2X-B scratches up too easily, that means that you have experienced this with the light, am I correct?

BTW I've been using an older lexan-lens SF C2 modestly over the past ~18 months and it doesn't have a single scratch on it yet.
Since I own it & use it, I do feel as though I can comment on it to a certain degree.

Edit: Not trying to go OT, just commenting on the comparable Lexan lens in my old C2.

[RobertM]

So...has anyone received his or her Fury yet? I saw that one particular dealer over on the Marketplace said that shipping should have started on Tues (Dec 13). Any comments from anyone that has one in his or her hands?

[Quiksilver]

BTW I've been using an older lexan-lens SF C2 modestly over the past ~18 months and it doesn't have a single scratch on it yet.

I've been using my 6PX Pro since May, and the lens has a good number of scratches including one serious one. Go figure.

I don't know what you use your light for, or what the context definition of 'modestly' means.

Two nights ago I went for a 30 minute run on the beach, and afterward practiced lighting a fire with a firesteel on the beach ... Used the 6PX Pro for everything. Its got a couple new scratches from perching it on sand/pebbles to use it. I'd call that modest use (im not combat MOS in central Asia, and its doesnt live on the nightstand).

[SMGUNSHOP]

hello we just received our first 6 of these and I am very impressed with the latest from SUREFIRE.
the light is extremely bright towards the center and fades away towards the outer edges.
the 15 lumen setting is a great idea.

[w00tb0t]

I just picked mine up this morning from a Surefire dealer and have been playing with it all day.

First impressions are great, its 5.4" and doesn't have a problem with bump changing. The light itself is sturdy feeling, with nothing rattling about.

The reflector is a light orange peel and it gets warm rather quickly.

At 5' on High (500 lumens) I get a nice 1.5' bright spot and a spread of about 10'
This light floods a room or a field nicely. I have not gone out and played with its throw to much, but it can hit trees about 200 yards off noticeably at dusk

Although the head/lens does look like it can be unscrewed it is glued on.

Ill post some beam shots tomorrow when I have had some more time to play with the light.

[Craig K]

I confess that I am most interested in your last sentence - since you are stating that the lens on the SF P2X-B scratches up too easily, that means that you have experienced this with the light, am I correct?

BTW I've been using an older lexan-lens SF C2 modestly over the past ~18 months and it doesn't have a single scratch on it yet.
Since I own it & use it, I do feel as though I can comment on it to a certain degree.

Edit: Not trying to go OT, just commenting on the comparable Lexan lens in my old C2.

Ive owned the new Surefire Z2X CombatLight and after just 4 weeks of normal use I noticed a couple of small scratches on the lens I then wiped the lens with a clean soft cloth and after I wiped it the lens got scratched up even more just from a soft cloth.

The SF P2X-B is using the same plastic lens as the Z2X uses,.... so I have experienced this lens.

[jh333233]

Lets talk about the output
500 surefire lm is exciting
but if it throws 15000lux or more, it would be even more fascinating

[SunStar]

For those that prefer the glass lens / window, have we identified an aftermarket option already available that can replace the OEM plastic?

Ive owned the new Surefire Z2X CombatLight and after just 4 weeks of normal use I noticed a couple of small scratches on the lens I then wiped the lens with a clean soft cloth and after I wiped it the lens got scratched up even more just from a soft cloth.

The SF P2X-B is using the same plastic lens as the Z2X uses,.... so I have experienced this lens.

[RedForest UK]

Yes, my G2x also scratched up lightly but very easily from cleaning gently with a cloth. It didn't noticably affect the beam at all, but over time (and surefires are meant to 'last a lifetime') probably would build up and up in serious use until it'll be like a diffuser lense or need replacing.

I am expecting the circuit to be very efficient however, the G2x had the most efficient circuit I've ever experienced.

[flashlight chronic]

If you want to avoid fine scratches on polycarbonate lenses, wet the lense w/ water or lense cleaner (if possible). This removes dirt particles or at least breaks it down. I wear prescription safety glasses at work and my eye doctor recommended that I not to wipe my glasses w/ a dry cloth for this reason. They only told me this after my third pair.

[naked2]

Damn doctors!
I have two teardrop E bezels I've replaced with newer hex/Pyrex ones due to such excessive scratching (as a bonus I got anti-rolling for clipless use on the old round bodies); so for me, here are the 3 strikes for not buying this:

1. Plastic lens.
2. I personally don't care for lights (or drop-in modules, for that matter!) that require button-presses to change modes.
3. No Lego ability.

[Xacto]

[...]
1. Plastic lens.
2. I personally don't care for lights (or drop-in modules, for that matter!) that require button-presses to change modes.
3. No Lego ability.

4. no chance to disassemble and replace defective parts without sending it in (read: it is glued together)

Now, today I got my second G2X Tactical. But honestly, for 55 Euro retail it is what I consider a budget light so I can live with those points. Good thing the 6P is still available.

Cheers
Thorsten

[TyJo]

I don't consider glue a formidable foe , but a voided warranty...

[ganymede]

Can someone please post some actual photos of the light? Thanks!

[naked2]

See post #40; or #15 and follow the link.

[RobertM]

I just picked mine up this morning from a Surefire dealer and have been playing with it all day.

First impressions are great, its 5.4" and doesn't have a problem with bump changing. The light itself is sturdy feeling, with nothing rattling about.

The reflector is a light orange peel and it gets warm rather quickly.

At 5' on High (500 lumens) I get a nice 1.5' bright spot and a spread of about 10'
This light floods a room or a field nicely. I have not gone out and played with its throw to much, but it can hit trees about 200 yards off noticeably at dusk

Although the head/lens does look like it can be unscrewed it is glued on.

Ill post some beam shots tomorrow when I have had some more time to play with the light.

How is the beam tint?

[ganymede]

See post #40; or #15 and follow the link.

Of course! But I am after actual photos of the light taken by user. Not marketing photos, sorry for the confusion.

[w00tb0t]

My Fury with authentic battle damage on the tail cap. Dropped it from chest height while running on concrete.

[IMG]athena.ordonomicon.net/fury.jpg[/IMG]

[Tack Driver]

Can anybody tell me if the Fury has bare circuitry exposed to the batteries like the G2X/6PX? I would suspect it does.

If it doesn't, I might have to own it.

[Size15's]

SureFire uses a conformal coating for its electronics so bare would seem inaccurate.

Your feeling of unease (?) more likely results in your lack of faith in SureFire's ability to engineer a robust reliable battery contact directly onto the PCB without an intermediate assembly between the PCB and the battery.
The example to support SureFire's method that first comes to mind is the X300 type handgun WeaponLights.

[Tack Driver]

I will refer to your knowledge if you tell me that some (obviously clear and invisible) coating will protect circuit boards from the physical damage of recoil against batteries when the light is weapon mounted.

I routinely remove batteries with flattened positive ends from shotgun weaponlights. Suffice it to say, I get a little antsy about the 6Px and G2x when I look down the tube and see what appears to be PCB with no physical barrier between it and the batteries.

[Dr. Strangelove]

Size15s may be able to provide more insight, but I recall reading somewhere that the 6PX and G2X are not intended to be used as weapon lights.

Update: Did some more searching, can't find any specific prohibitions or approvals, but many people on the gun forms report using them successfully (but on long rifles, not shotguns).

[Tack Driver]

Yeah, they are getting used a lot lately on everything from ARs to shotguns. That doesn't mean it's a good idea. I've learned from experience that people don't always actually USE this stuff. They take pictures, they show it off, they pop a few rounds off standing stationary, square to the target at the range, then it goes by the bed or in the safe.

That's like momentary tail cap shotgun lights. Anybody know how painful of a setup that really is? You see them everywhere, but you never hear anybody say anything about them jamming your thumb into your wrist.