The SureFire P2X-B "Fury" 500lu flashlight thread

[Dr. Strangelove]

To those who haven't purchased a Fury yet and won't accept the answers posted here by those who have, may I suggest you call SureFire customer support and ask them yourselves? I too had many questions but am satisfied with what I've read and am now (im)patiently waiting for mine to arrive...

[schurtjl]

Same here, mine's on the way also to join the stable of surefire lights I already have. Surefire isn't going to put their name on something that isn't quality.

[Rocky1927]

Mine just arrived and it is AWESOME! Now I have to buy another one 'cause the wife nabbed the first one!

[JohnSmith]

Mine is now back in the mail headed to SureFire to rectify my unsealed/loose lens issue. I'm confident eventually this situation will be rectified and I'll have a properly working light.

I'm bummed about having to send it back, but really excited about the configuration of this light. 15 lumen low mode is just about perfect for providing usable general-purpose light for a crazy amount of run-time, and the 500 lumen high mode just puts out a ton of light. At 50 yards there was a moderate increase in overall brightness and spill compared to my 200 lumen E2DL and LX2, but at closer distances there is no comparison - you can see so much more when using the Fury.

The beam on mine was slightly green. Acceptable, but not my preference.

[BaldGuy45]

Just ordered mine today. Hope this and another light I ordered (HDS Executive 170 lumen) will put a stop to my buying for awhile. Saw lots of discussion on the lens. SF website says it "Tough polycarbonate window "
, so plastic not glass. Doesnt really bother me though.

[Rocky1927]

Well, at least they're finally showing something on their website!
So far I am totally happy with mine and plan to get at least one more, probably two.

A big "Thank You" to Battery Junction for making my first purchase from them a great experience!

[naked2]

BJ rocks!

[freeride21a]

BJ rocks!

Until you have to wait due to back-order from all you guys buying them up before I could get one! I WANT IT NOW!!! LOL

[TyJo]

Here is Surefire manufacturer page: http://www.surefire.com/P2X-B-BK?&search_id=3168920.

[KDOG3]

Dang, if this was a three level light I'd be more interested. Just having low and 500 fire starting lumens doesn't make too much sense to me. It would be great if it had a 100lumen mid level setting.

[recDNA]

Just ordered mine today. Hope this and another light I ordered (HDS Executive 170 lumen) will put a stop to my buying for awhile. Saw lots of discussion on the lens. SF website says it "Tough polycarbonate window "
, so plastic not glass. Doesnt really bother me though.

I'm not gentle enough to go for plastic. I'd scratch it up. Glad you like it though. I would really be tempted with a glass lens. 2 modes is fine for me. An L2x interface would be nice too!

[naked2]

Plastic reflector also.

[kyhunter1]

The plastic reflector is a bummer..... Nevertheless, the fury is a nice light and I would still like to own one. For a little more money (~ $50.00), I would say a Malkoff Hounddog XML would be a better light. Question for you guys that own both. How does the throw of the Fury compare to the XML Hounddog?

[leon2245]

The plastic reflector is a bummer.....

Based on your experience with the 6px & g2x, still much if any nicer than say jetbeam's budget line? I'm thinking Fury versus BC25, even at 2x the price, since SF has yet to disappoint me, but I've also never seen an "x" model before. I didn't realize there was such a drop-off in quality.

Having several examples of both series, the new X series just seems a little less well made, the CNC machining is less complex and not as aesthetic, to me at least. Anyone else get the same feeling?

^don't care about the plastic reflector. So long as it doesn't melt I wouldn't know any different. Same with less complicated machining. If it's well executed & finished, & the threads are smooth, how complicated the design looks is less about quality to me. OTOH...

My unit has the GLASS window in lieu of the Lexan / plastic window.

Tap the lens with something metal. Glass has a much higher 'tone'. This can be done without scratching the surface.

I tapped my 6PX pro and my Fury lens with a small screw driver and the Fury lens sure sounds like glass .

I have multiple D26 type Lexan bezels. It is nothing like these. The lens is very clear - certainly on par with the U2, M3 or any other glass offering from SF. It also is very smooth like glass and doesn't have that "canny" flat tone when tapped. I have wiped my fingerprints and pocket lint from it several times with my shirt with no ill effects. It does seem to have some thickness / heft to it - so maybe I'm just fooled.

Just received my Fury. I think the lens may be glass, because the lens in my light is completely unsupported and it just rattles around when I shake the light. It sure sounds like glass as it rattles around in there.

Some plastic lenses that are really thick, hard, & curved(?) feel that way, & others have such thin plastic that they're flexible & you can immediately tell. Really plasticky feeling. But if these are nice enough to outright trick, or even make us think twice about it being glass, that's good enough for me. Besides, it's not like I don't get scratches in glass lenses either. Just probably more with this. Good enough for me.

I've been thinking about it and came to the same conclusion, glass is a bonus but at the very least the lens sounds solid which is also good enough for me.

The lens is now proven to not be glass. It still does not stop me from liking the light.

I'm staying hopeful this was merely a case of the polycarbonate lens being so good that it just tricked the few users above into thinking it was glass, not that they sent out an initial batch of ringers with glass, & the new ones will have something more obvious. So anyone who initially thought theirs was glass want to recant- was the polycarbonate that good, or are you still certain yours is glass?

[JohnSmith]

I'm the guy with the loose lens... I guess I can't be certain beyond a shadow of a doubt, but I really believe it was glass. Because there were no o-rings supporting the lens, I could turn it freely inside the bezel. When doing so, it made the distinctive sound/feeling of fingernails on a chalkboard, and I perceived that to be the unfinished (unpolished) circumference of the glass disk scraping against the inside of the aluminum bezel. A plastic lens wouldn't have done that, it would have lacked that scraping/grinding sensation. My observations only, I reserve the right to be wrong about this.

[SunStar]

I'm staying hopeful this was merely a case of the polycarbonate lens being so good that it just tricked the few users above into thinking it was glass, not that they sent out an initial batch of ringers with glass, & the new ones will have something more obvious. So anyone who initially thought theirs was glass want to recant- was the polycarbonate that good, or are you still certain yours is glass?

No recant here... the lens is that good. If it is PC then SF should implement the lens in all their product line and market it as an unbreakable bullet proof "composite lens" with the optical clarity and feel of glass. I personally hope it is PC - coated to provide anti-scratch and optical attenuation - similar to a high end prescription eyeglass lens. If this is the case, it's all win for the user. BTW... I called my dealer whom specializes in flashlights and optics and asked his opinion on the window. His consensus was that it was "glass".

I don't put much stock in what SF posts on the website or catalog. Also, this could be an "in-process" change planned for the Fury and for production reasons, they may be using glass initially. Therefore, printed / posted specifications would reflect that planned change. Perhaps its a copy / paste typo using the 6PXPro as a template to build their web page. I believe that it has been verified here that the Fury's window appears different than that observed in the 6PX / G2X series of lights.

Of course, this is all speculation... the Fury lens may very well be PC and if it is, its very well executed.

I remain... "tricked".

[leon2245]

No recant here... the lens is that good. If it is PC then SF should implement the lens in all their product line and market it as an unbreakable bullet proof "composite lens" with the optical clarity and feel of glass. I personally hope it is PC - coated to provide anti-scratch and optical attenuation - similar to a high end prescription eyeglass lens. If this is the case, it's all win for the user. BTW... I called my dealer whom specializes in flashlights and optics and asked his opinion on the window. His consensus was that it was "glass".

I don't put much stock in what SF posts on the website or catalog. Also, this could be an "in-process" change planned for the Fury and for production reasons, they may be using glass initially. Therefore, printed / posted specifications would reflect that planned change. Perhaps its a copy / paste typo using the 6PXPro as a template to build their web page. I believe that it has been verified here that the Fury's window appears different than that observed in the 6PX / G2X series of lights.

Of course, this is all speculation... the Fury lens may very well be PC and if it is, its very well executed.

I remain... "tricked".

Unfortunately for those of us who haven't got ours yet, I think it's most likely the 'initially using glass/in-process change' theory, out of the three. Too coincidental that everyone whose orders were fulfilled from the first batch got glass, then those are suddenly out of stock, then in the three days between the new stock arriving, that's when SureFire adds the product page to their website.

I have more hope in SF having copied those specs over from the 6px in error than I do any polycarbonate fooling you guys (no polycarbonate can be that good), but more than likely they are eventually going to be polycarbonate. It just better be a few more units down the line, because I'm going to pitch an internet fit after having ordered when the first batch was still listed in-stock, if the changeover theory is correct.

The thing is this wouldn't be a big deal either way, at all, if they only didn't feel the need to GLUE everything together, so that the lens isn't user replaceable without a freaking blowtorch & vice etc.

[scot]

If you run one of your front upper teeth across the lens you can tell a distinct difference between plastic and glass. Grab a light with plastic lens then one with glass and try them both, you'll "feel" a very real difference, quite simple really. Works with watches too.

[Rocky1927]

scot, that suggestion was so wild that I had to try it and I'll be danged if it didn't work!

Nice trick!

[scot]

It's not fool proof, but it sure is a heck of a lot more reliable than tapping the lens, which doesn't tell you anything.
I could care less whether the lens on this light is plastic or glass either one is fine with me. I prefer plastic, glass shatters, I'll post pics of shattered lenses if anyone wants to see them.

[herosemblem]

Thanks for the excellent tip, scot. I think you meant you "couldn't" care less. Honestly, I couldn't care less about the population of the Tasmanian yellow-winged Harper finch.
When you say that you "could" care less, you are.actually saying that you do care.
+1 RE not preferring glass lenses. All the tempered high tech glass lenses in my lights have cracked. Plastic lenses have never given me a problem.
Glass lenses do not permit the User to accidentally drop their flashlight. Plastic lenses do.

[Rocky1927]

I don't care what the lens is constructed of as long as it works. Surefire hasn't yet disappointed me with any of the dozen+ lights I've purchased from them.

I, personally, am very happy with my Fury.

[Dr. Strangelove]

It's great to hear that so many people are happy with their new lights! I can't wait for mine to arrive so I can be happy too!

[scot]

Herosemblem, you said it much better than I did, thank you. Glad you understood what I meant.

[recDNA]

I've never broken a glass lens. I've scratched EVERY plastic lens.
I've often dropped flashlights with glass lenses from ladders to asphalt without breaking the lens though I've messed up some.bezel rings.

[naked2]

Ditto!

[TyJo]

I've never broken a glass lens. I've scratched EVERY plastic lens.
I've often dropped flashlights with glass lenses from ladders to asphalt without breaking the lens though I've messed up some.bezel rings.

Agreed. A quality glass lens that is shock mounted can't be beat in my opinion.

[fresh eddie fresh]

I ordered mine about a week ago from Spyder Tactical. With the CPF discount it came to $124 shipped... now the hard part, waiting!

I am hoping it will out throw my G5.... and be similar to a Malkoff M91, but more focused.

[BaldGuy45]

Got mine today. Plastic lens for sure. Didnt need to tap or "tooth" test it. Just a touch can determine if its plastic. Mine is. I will have to say that I am not as impressed as I thought I would be. Slightly brighter than my Olight M20. Hate that there is no way to make the SF go high then low. Also no switching modes once its clicked on. Oh well, its ok, but could be better.

[Glock 22]

I have no problem with the plastic lens, I just don't like the low on the first click, I prefer hi then lo. All in all great beam throw, awsome brightness. Just need a good bezel down pocket clip that's pretty strong that I don't have to worry about it falling out of my pocket.