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    Default Re: Elzetta- The industry's best kept secret.

    I think I just answered my own question... the Triples are P-Series and these are for M-Series drop-ins correct?

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    It would depend on voltage, and what you are using for batteries.

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    Default Re: Elzetta- The industry's best kept secret.

    But physically they will fit in the head?
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    Default Re: Elzetta- The industry's best kept secret.

    I believe any Malkoff, and any standard P-60 type drop-in should fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSaxatilus View Post
    I think I just answered my own question... the Triples are P-Series and these are for M-Series drop-ins correct?

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    What Malkoff triples?
    There are no Malkoff triple modules.

    You must be talking about the Oveready Triples. Completely different company, and they don't fit, although you might get one in there with a bit of grinding modification. However, the Oveready triples REQUIRE that you use IMR cells, and regular CR123 are not suitable because they can't give the current output.
    You need to know what you are getting into when you contemplate those Oveready triple modules. They are powerful, and have very specific battery requirements.

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    Default Re: Elzetta- The industry's best kept secret.

    My bad... I was thinking the Moodoo triples.

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    I feel like a noob!

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    Dang, a Malkoff Triple P60 drop in?

    EDIT: Duh, I shoulda clicked to new page!!
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    Anyone know if the tape switches for the Elzetta's fit the Malkoff MD series? I was going to play around a little with legoing lights for my carbine and I noticed Elzetta makes a switch, and Malkoff doesn't (but lots of people have them on their ARs).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bkumanski View Post
    Anyone know if the tape switches for the Elzetta's fit the Malkoff MD series? I was going to play around a little with legoing lights for my carbine and I noticed Elzetta makes a switch, and Malkoff doesn't (but lots of people have them on their ARs).
    I don't have one to try, but someone posted that the Moddoo Triad tailcap doesn't fit the Elzetta. It does, however, fit the MD2. This would lead me to guess the Elzetta tailcaps aren't compatible with the MD2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaichu dento View Post
    This endorsement seals it for me. I don't know if I'll keep it once I get one, but I'm definitely going to get me an Elzetta!
    Wow, glad I could help you out on that one. Tell them I said hi while you're at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AardvarkSagus View Post
    Wow, glad I could help you out on that one. Tell them I said hi while you're at it.
    Apparently the ZFL-M60-LS2D is the one I'm interested in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaichu dento View Post
    Apparently the ZFL-M60-LS2D is the one I'm interested in!
    Be sure to check out run4jc's review in the review section. He did a good run through of the light.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slumber Pass View Post
    Be sure to check out run4jc's review in the review section. He did a good run through of the light.
    Thanks for the heads up - going there right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slumber Pass View Post
    I don't have one to try, but someone posted that the Moddoo Triad tailcap doesn't fit the Elzetta. It does, however, fit the MD2. This would lead me to guess the Elzetta tailcaps aren't compatible with the MD2.
    just tried my Elzetta tailcap on my SF. It threads on but is shallower and does not thread on all the way.
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    Elzetta owners,

    I'm reviving this old thread becaues I'm interested in picking an Elzetta up. Since I already have a few Malkoff drop-ins, I am going to purchase the host seperately.

    My question, does the bezel come with a lens? From Elzetta's website FAQ, it appears that you don't need a lens since Malkoff drop-ins are already covered, but wouldn't water get inside the body? It seems like Gene sells the lens and gasket here: http://www.malkoffdevices.com/shop/m...sket-p-83.html. Do I need this? I would rather not have to pay an extra $8 in shipping just to get the lens.

    Thanks

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    If it comes with a M60 in it, then it doesn't have a lens because the M60 doesn't need one.
    The M61 and other reflector modules DO need one, and you will need to get it if you get a different module than the M60.
    I'd bet that Elzetta has the lens and o-ring in their parts section. If you don't see it, try calling or emailing them.

    Or you can wait until you decide to try a different module than the M60, and order the lens and o-ring at that time.

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    Ah, I see. I've been out of CPF for so long, I didn't even know Malkoff M60 became M61 and no longer have the lens cover on the drop in module.

    I still have one of my older M60WL drop in, so I'm set without the lens and gasket for now.

    Thanks for the quick response.

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    Can elzetta take the other Malkoff drop in other than the M60 variant?
    Can it take an external lens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benchiew View Post
    Can elzetta take the other Malkoff drop in other than the M60 variant?
    Can it take an external lens?
    Yes it can take any Malkoff drop in. However, the M91 requires 3 cells, so if you plan to use the M91, get the 3-cell body for the Elzetta.
    It can take the Malkoff lens that goes on the M61 and the other Malkoff drop-ins that have reflectors.
    They just don't put the lens on the M60 because it doesn't need it.

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    how's the strobe on them? disorienting? or too fast to be any threat to a suspect?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobrien View Post
    how's the strobe on them? disorienting? or too fast to be any threat to a suspect?
    I have never seen the strobe.
    I have the hi/lo tailcap.

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    I have the 3 cell Elzetta and have found that if using a non lens module, you can just get the lens from Malkoff. It is the same as that used in the MD2 and the VME heads. The lens sits recessed into the drop in and it is not model specific.

    Other than the M60 range, can the M61 take a 3 cell setup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benchiew View Post
    I have the 3 cell Elzetta and have found that if using a non lens module, you can just get the lens from Malkoff. It is the same as that used in the MD2 and the VME heads. The lens sits recessed into the drop in and it is not model specific.

    Other than the M60 range, can the M61 take a 3 cell setup?
    Yes, the M61 can take a 3-cell set-up, as long as it's 3 primary CR123 batteries for a total of 9v. I don't think it can take the 12.6v of 3 rcr123 batteries with 4.2v each.
    And the M91 requires 3 cells, or some combination that fits in there and gives between 7-9v. Three primary CR123 would be the expected battery load for the M91 in an Elzetta 3-cell.

    The Elzetta is not bored for 18xxx size li-ion rechargeables because it is rated to be a weaponlight which might see heavy recoil, and that recoil might damage the protective circuitry in the protected li-ion rechargeable batteries. So, for safety and reliability in the weaponlight role, they do not bore the bodies for those li-ion 18xxx size cells, and specify primary CR123 cells as the normal load.
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    How about 3x rcr123 3.2 v LiFePo battery? The voltage should dip dramatically under load. Would M61 take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benchiew View Post
    How about 3x rcr123 3.2 v LiFePo battery? The voltage should dip dramatically under load. Would M61 take it?
    I never tried it.
    You might ask Gene to see what he says about it.

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    Default Re: Elzetta- The industry's best kept secret.

    I wonder why the M61 doesn't just come with a lense epoxied in-place, since it needs a lense anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fyrstormer View Post
    I wonder why the M61 doesn't just come with a lense epoxied in-place, since it needs a lense anyway.
    Good question!
    My only guess is that since it's glass, it makes for easier replacement with just the o-ring fitment if it got accidentally broken.

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    Or bc you don't need a lens when a M61 is used in a 6P, what is was designed for.
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    You wouldn't need a built-in lense in that case, no, but it wouldn't hurt to have it permanently installed either. So you'd have duplicate lenses, big deal. As for the concern regarding accidental breakage, that same concern applies to the M60 as well. I'm curious, has anyone ever broken a Malkoff drop-in?

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