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    Quote Originally Posted by budynabuick View Post
    preparationHQ looks like they have a many.

    Keith
    I was nervous there for a minute or so until I realized that they had the high CRI clickies but not rotaries. I want a high CRI rotary. Thanks for looking out for me though!
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    Sprinkle, thank you for the beamshots. (When did you place an order for your HCRI Rotary?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by diesel79 View Post
    I didnt have any other warm tint lights to compare it to. The warmest lights I have are 4000k Malkoff neutrals, and it was definitley warmer than those. I did end up selling he light to a member on here that was local to me, he mentioned it was the same tint as his Malkoff warm tinted lights and those are said to be in the 3700k tint.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slumber Pass View Post
    Compared to your Neutral Malkoff, would say the HDS had a peachy pinkish tint? I tried a Malkoff M61W and didn't care for it too much, but I'm digging the M60N.
    I am now the owner of this beauty! It is very close in temperature to my 3700k M61W's but the tint is on the green side whereas the M61W has an almost pink tint. Outside they both look great - but I do slightly prefer the HDS. I can also confirm that it is most definitely an XP-G. I will be picking up more of these once they become readily available.
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    Default Re: HDS Systems EDC # 16

    Quote Originally Posted by someguy4747 View Post
    I was nervous there for a minute or so until I realized that they had the high CRI clickies but not rotaries. I want a high CRI rotary. Thanks for looking out for me though!
    Your welcome. Could-a swore they had rotary, Guess 3 hrs. sleep my eye"s were funky. Good luck.

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    Sprinkle, Thanks for posting those beautiful beam shots! Now I am even more excited about the arrival of my Rotary HCRI sometime soon...

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    Thanks for the shots Sprinkle. You did us a great favor! Kudos!
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    Everyone, you're welcome for the beamshots. Hope they were of some help for people. This was my first attempt of trying to get beamshots and I was kinda rushed.

    Quote Originally Posted by someguy4747 View Post
    Thanks for the beam shots! I was very interested to hear the perceived difference in brightness between the 200 and high CRI. Your review makes me want one even more! If I see one at a dealer I don't think I will be able to resist. As for the movement in the tail I can also move the tail of my rotary tail and hear the grease squish. I assumed it was normal. Itdoesnt bother me. Hopefully I will have something to compare it to soon!
    Yeah there is very little visual difference in brightness (at least to my eyes and a couple other people I showed it to). I actually have been making it an effort to use my 200 version on a lower output so I wouldn't be disappointed... but wasn't needed. The highest settings are close enough to never worry about and the tint by far makes up for it.

    I guess it's good to know that there are other lights with the tail being wobbly. I don't think it is a big deal, but coming from the other one that is rock solid it does bug me a little. I only own the 2 HDS lights so I gotta wait for my 3rd before I have something else to compare.

    Quote Originally Posted by Filip View Post
    Sprinkle, thank you for the beamshots. (When did you place an order for your HCRI Rotary?)
    I actually placed my order on my first one in December with Henry and it still hasn't shipped. I was lucky enough to grab one from a dealer on this one. I had signed up for email notification and as soon as the email came in through my phone I ordered it. And being fairly close to the dealer the shipping was quick. Surprised there isn't any more people getting their lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkle View Post
    It may be hard to tell from these shots but the dark ring in the beam that is noticeable in the CW HDS Rotary is not present in the HCRI. I did not take shots to specifically show this though. I did however take some shots to show that the dark center when the light is close to some is now gone.

    Both of these were taken with the light 3" from the foam core (you can see my tape measure):

    HDS CW Rotary:


    HDS HCRI Rotary:


    . . .

    HDS CW Rotary:


    HDS HCRI Rotary:
    The high CRI beam does look smoother than the cool white beam, yet the emitters themselves appear to be very much the same. I wonder what the exact reason for that is? Is it because the additional phosphor in the high CRI emitter diffuses the beam more?

    Ah, can't until my high CRI Rotary shows up!
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    I just recieved my hi-cri clicky this morning. It seems that the reflector opening is larger than my 200 rotary. It also seems the LED is sitting about 1mm further down in the reflector, in comparison to the rotary.

    The beam is definitely smoother, with artifacts to a minimum.





    Quote Originally Posted by the.Mtn.Man View Post
    The high CRI beam does look smoother than the cool white beam, yet the emitters themselves appear to be very much the same. I wonder what the exact reason for that is? Is it because the additional phosphor in the high CRI emitter diffuses the beam more?

    Ah, can't until my high CRI Rotary shows up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Deicide~ View Post
    I just recieved my hi-cri clicky this morning. It seems that the reflector opening is larger than my 200 rotary. It also seems the LED is sitting about 1mm further down in the reflector, in comparison to the rotary.

    The beam is definitely smoother, with artifacts to a minimum.
    So awesome to hear that peoples HCRI's are starting to arrive!!!

    Deicide, can I ask you what was the date that you placed your order?

    I ordered mine on January 5th...

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandocommando View Post
    So awesome to hear that peoples HCRI's are starting to arrive!!!

    Deicide, can I ask you what was the date that you placed your order?

    I ordered mine on January 5th...
    I ordered mine on march 31st through a dealer. One of my favorite lights by far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Deicide~ View Post
    It seems that the reflector opening is larger than my 200 rotary. It also seems the LED is sitting about 1mm further down in the reflector, in comparison to the rotary.

    The beam is definitely smoother, with artifacts to a minimum.
    I looked at my lights and the opening on the new HDRI one does indeed look larger than the older CW one. It doesn't appear to be sitting any further down on mine though. I wonder if the opening being wider is all that was needed?

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    Default Re: HDS Systems EDC # 16

    sprinkle,

    Thanks for the beamshots, they've been very helpful and informative!

    The HCRI seems to be a winner.

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    Default Re: HDS Systems EDC # 16

    Quote Originally Posted by AZPops View Post
    I guess that makes you and me both that prefer the Cool Whites, since it works best for my work! However I'm just not into the neutral or warm tints!
    We're in agreement once again my friend

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE_dAY View Post
    The HCRI seems to be a winner.
    Yes it does!
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    Default Re: HDS Systems EDC # 16

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Deicide~ View Post








    I ordered mine on march 31st through a dealer. One of my favorite lights by far...
    March 31st of 2011 or 2012? if 2012, could you PM me which dealer it is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyfire View Post
    March 31st of 2011 or 2012? if 2012, could you PM me which dealer it is?
    You missed it entirely. They were offered for only a short while before they are all gone. Anyway, Henry told me that mine is still not done for shipment and I ordered on January 2nd.
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    Received a Hi-CRI Clicky today (also bought from a dealer). Comparing it to the Malkoff M61HCRI, it is about equal in brightness at a slightly higher CCT (I'm far from able to be precise, but it seems to be ~500K cooler). I'm very pleased with it, exactly the sort of build quality I've come to expect from HDS.

    I'll certainly pick up a Rotary Hi-CRI if I get a chance.

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    Any word on the Rotaru clips, last time I heard anything he said two months...
    I don't know how long ago that was, maybe 3 weeks ago?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sprinkle View Post
    I looked at my lights and the opening on the new HDRI one does indeed look larger than the older CW one. It doesn't appear to be sitting any further down on mine though. I wonder if the opening being wider is all that was needed?
    A wider hole is the exact opposite solution I would have expected as I would have assumed it would make the artifacts worse.

    All I know is that the high CRI beam looks great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarpentryHero View Post
    Any word on the Rotaru clips, last time I heard anything he said two months...
    I don't know how long ago that was, maybe 3 weeks ago?
    All I know is, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one, ehy! ...


    Quote Originally Posted by davyro View Post
    We're in agreement once again my friend

    Yeah Davyro, absolutely! But, but, ... ... with all you guys wanting the whatever warm tinted lights. How come there isn't (not that I can afford it right now) any regular Rotarys in-stock anywhere? That's what I wanna know!

    While you guys try an figure that one out, .... I'm going back to looking at SeiyaJapan.com's Casio G Shock Solar/Atomic Frogman porn! ...
    Last edited by AZPops; 04-06-2012 at 06:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPops View Post
    How come there isn't (not that I can afford it right now) any regular Rotarys in-stock anywhere? That's what I wanna know!
    It may seem a little obvious, but it's got to do with them being in short supply and many people wanting them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaichu dento View Post
    It may seem a little obvious, but it's got to do with them being in short supply and many people wanting them.

    I know, I was just trying to break up some of the tension from the guys waiting for their lights! ... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZPops View Post
    I know, I was just trying to break up some of the tension from the guys waiting for their lights! ... LOL
    Tension while waiting for a light? I need to get my head checked.

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    The funny thing is the contrast between expectation and realization. Once you get your light, you will Never again experience the expectation of getting that particular light, ever again... unless you lose it somewhere and know it will turn up somehow anyways.

    Personally I just want to be able to use the thing, I'm definitely working to keep the sense of expectation way, way, down until it arrives (I might even put off opening it for a little bit), and then to start using it.
    The brighter the light, the darker the shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalal20 View Post
    Hehe they were 3 actually, I picked up the first one. This was the best deal in 2 month to get an hds without waiting
    Have you received any notifications from goinggear yet as far as shipping?
    I haven't head a peep from them as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid9P View Post
    Have you received any notifications from goinggear yet as far as shipping?
    I haven't head a peep from them as of yet.
    Yes it shipped out yesterday with my Ti+

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kid9P View Post
    Have you received any notifications from goinggear yet as far as shipping?
    I haven't head a peep from them as of yet.
    That's one good thing about doing business with GG is you can call them (anytime the store is open) if you have any questions.

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    I am looking to get my first HDS and had a few concerns I wondered if ya'll could help me with to save my eyes from this monster thread in just 4-5 months. lol...

    Are the flush buttons still cracking or has he addressed that?
    Will they tail stand solidly?
    Are the 200l rotaries known to have poorer tint or beam quality than the 200l clickies or is it a GD vs. XP-G issue?
    Just how cool do the 200l models tend to run?
    What are my odds of getting an off center emitter and what is involved in getting it corrected if I do?
    Are there any downsides to the rotary models like lesser runtime?
    If I were to order now, what would be my approximate wait and where should I order from?

    Thanks!
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    The 200 lumen rotary tail stands very well, the XPG is very well centered and the beam is perfect.
    Tint on my 120 is more of a ghostly white with the GDP emitter. If I set them both too a 120 lumens the GDP will out throw the XPG by 10-20 feet, but with them both set to max the rotary wins. Hope that answers most of your questions
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