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    Mpr turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    UPDATE 4/7: P60 capable hosts will now be found under the drop-in used and are listed in alphabetical order by their respective manufacturer. So for example, EDC+ X60L will now be found in this thread instead of in the host it was used and vice versa, DBS V2 was moved to pt 3 due to the UltraFire XM-L drop-in used.

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    PART 1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam) - this thread
    PART 2 (Klarus - Sunwayman)
    PART 3 (SureFire - Zebralight)

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    Hey guys, I recently upgraded my camera and have been away for a short while working on this massive indoors shots session. The new camera has a wider angle lens thus capturing more of the beam profile. It also has the ability to tweak the custom-white balacing (Blue, Magenta, Green, Amber) thus allowing me to attempt to reproduce as faithful an interpretation of what my eyes see as possible. While this can be done PP (post-processing), I don't always remember exactly what each beam's temperature was so being able to do this on the fly was a huge boon to the process. However, with that said, I'm still learning the in's/out's of the camera and may have over-compensated on the M axis a little for some pics so something to note if a particular shot has too much M hue. Another thing to keep in mind is that the door is an off-white, creamy color and not pure white.

    As for the modes, where possible, I've captured all modes except those where it was so low as to not provide a meaningful exposure. For obvious reasons, I only did Max and Min for variable lights (but again only where the Min showed anything in the shot).

    There may be shots that look pitch black but upon enlarging it, you can make out the beam even if just barely (at least on my monitor) so I've also embedded links to full size 1280 x 960 pics in case you want to do detailed comparos of the hotspot (this alone took a few hours and I'm pretty sure I caught all of them but do let me know if any links are broken).

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    PART 1

    Lights highlighted in blue indicate new bounce pics and ones in yellow are new as of 9/25. *Indicates mfg claimed ANSI value, last three columns are measurements taken/calcualted by me. Lights sorted in alphabetical order by mfg. All shots taken on a Panny FZ150 @ ISO-100, custom WB, f/2.8 and fixed shutter speeds of 1/8, 1/40 & 1/80. Distance to door is 5m (16.4ft) away. New as of 5/25: Bounce shots under same conditions but w/shutter speed @ 1/4 and light placed right above camera.
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    4Sevens QMini 123 Ti
    High


    Med


    Low



    APEX 5T6 (review)
    High




    Med


    Low



    Crelant 7G5CS (review)
    Max




    Min



    Crelant 7G9 (review)
    High




    Med


    Low



    Crelant V9-T6 (review)
    High




    Low



    Dereelight DBS V2 (see UltraFire 3S XM-L drop-in)


    EDC+ X60L drop-in (review)
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    Med


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    eGear X-Flare Pro Focus Control 400 Headlamp
    (review - unfinished)
    High (flood)


    High (spot)


    Med (flood)


    Med (spot)


    Low (flood)


    Low (spot)



    Elektro Lumens Big Bruiser (review)





    Fenix L0D-CE
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    Med


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    Fenix LD10 Premium Q5
    Turbo


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    Med


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    Fenix TK21 (review)
    Turbo




    High


    Med


    Low



    FoxFury Breakthrough BT2 (review coming)
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    Med


    Low



    FoxFury Breakthrough BT3 (review coming)
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    Med


    Low



    FoxFury Rook CheckMate (review)
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    Low



    ICON Link
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    Low



    IKEA Ljusa (given how quickly this light dims, I wound the light between each pic)



    JETBeam RRT-0 XR-E R2
    L5


    L4


    L3


    L2



    JETBeam TCR1
    Max




    JETBeam
    TCR2
    Max




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    PART 1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam) - this thread
    PART 2 (Klarus - Sunwayman)
    PART 3 (SureFire - Zebralight)
    Last edited by turboBB; 11-03-2012 at 07:27 AM. Reason: Crelant 7G5CS added

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    Default Re: PART 2

    Very nice work! Awesome comparison, many thanks!

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    Default Re: PART 2

    That's a lot of work, TuboBB. Great comparison. Thanks for sharing.

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    Default Re: turboBB's Nov '11 indoor shots (32 lights, multi-modes, 282 pics, 62MB, 'nuff sai

    Thx guys!

    Whew!, I'm finally done adding all pics and links for now. I've revised the links so that it goes to the main page where you can select the prev or next pic in the sequence. It also allows you to choose multiple sizes rather than just the fixed static 1280x960.

    I'll be adding more lights (including headlamps) in the future.

    Cheers,
    Tim

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    Default Re: turboBB's Nov '11 indoor shots (32 lights, multi-modes, 282 pics, 62MB, 'nuff sai

    i've been looking for some solid V10A beamshots, thanks!
    aka Edgar Allan Bro, Brosama Bin Liftin, Walter Crunkite, Bro Namath, Teddy Brosevelt, and the Tomahawk Crunkmissile.
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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (38 lights, multi-modes/bats, 333 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Happy new year all! I've added some new lights (in yellow) to each section.

    @tobrien - you're welcome!

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (38 lights, multi-modes/bats, 333 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Niteye EYE-30 added.

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (39 lights, multi-modes/bats, 336 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Very well done. This is a lot more work than most will realize. The photography is just one aspect, but you have to keep organized, upload everything, capture links. You are a patient man. I appreciate threads like this that demonstrate the profile of the beams as much as some idea of total output compared to other lights.

    Keep up the good work turboBB!

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (39 lights, multi-modes/bats, 336 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Oh wow! Thank you for this. Beautifully done! Great work!

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (39 lights, multi-modes/bats, 336 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Thx guys!

    @1bigday - indeed, this truly takes quite a bit of work so definitely appreciate feedback on whether this is useful and perhaps what you guys might like to see.

    I was thinking of adding the Beam Intensity and calculated Beam Distance eventually as time allows. Maybe a celing bounce thread in similar vein?

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (40 lights, multi-modes/bats, 351 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    • EYE-30 H, M, L levels added to Part 1
    • SF Kroma added to Part 2

    Cheers,
    Tim

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (40 lights, multi-modes/bats, 351 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Wow....Fantastic! Thanks for all of your hard work. Very Impressive
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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (40 lights, multi-modes/bats, 351 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    Fantastic beamshots,lot of work, thanks for turboBB.

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (40 lights, multi-modes/bats, 351 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    @woodrow & niteye001 - Thx!!

    All, I've updated the charts to show the lux captured at 1m as well as the calculated max beam distance. I still have a bunch of lights to work through (although there are 3 that I either returned or sold). I also have the ceiling bounce measurements to do and hope to hit that up over the weekend.

    All measurements conform to ANSI FL1 in that they were taken (on Extech HD450) between 30 seconds and 2 minutes after lights were first turned on.

    Cheers,
    Tim

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    Default Re: turboBB's Epic indoor shots (40 lights, multi-modes/bats, 351 pics, 'nuff said!!)

    2 new lights added although I've yet to take lux measurements for these. More to come...

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    Default turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt 1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    All,

    This thread has been getting a little too bulky so I've broken it into 3 parts since I intend to continue to add to each.

    Elektro Lumens Big Bruiser & EDC+ X60L Drop-in added to this thread.

    Cheers,
    Tim

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt 1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    thanks for all the work putting these beamshots together!
    I'm looking forward to the EDC+ X60L review. I've been thinking about picking one up.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Thx! As a FYI, the bulk of the X60L review is now up.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Great Job!

    Especially the lux@ 1 meter table, very useful. The Big bruiser is floodier than I thought,
    if DX triple SMO reflector is used, it'll easily double the lux (stock triple lens has less throw), even with the reflector, it'll still be quite floddy, just th einherent limitations of triple.
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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Wow! Thanks for a great thread.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Thx guys! Jetbeam TCR1 now added. Also, I'm holding off on further lux measurements until I can build another PVC contraption which should help me make measurements >1m more accurate.

    Cheers,
    Tim

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Terrific job turboBB!! Your chart and indoor beam shots are extremely helpful. You rock!

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Thx!

    Crelant 7G9 & V9-T6 added along with bounce shots for: Big Bruiser, Rook CheckMate & TCR1

    I'll udpate the charts later after I've taken the measurements.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    APEX 5T6 added.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Just noticed the bounce shots for EDC+ X60L & FNX TK21 were missing from my last update but they're up now.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    FoxFury Breakthrough BT2 & BT3 added.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Thx to vinnieC5's sharp eye, I just noticed that I reversed the numbers for the BT2 & BT3 in the light chart. That's fixed now.

    Cheers,
    Tim
    Last edited by turboBB; 09-25-2012 at 09:59 PM.

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    Default Re: turboBB's EPIC Indoor Shots Pt1 (4Sevens - Jetbeam)

    Crelant 7G5CS added. You'll note that the lux reading is less than half claimed by Crelant (45K vs. 116K) however, all my lux readings are at 1m and most beams are not fully collimated at this distance. I did double-check lux reading at 2m to be 14K which calc's to 473m beam distance and is an improvement upon 1m calc of 424m.

    I plan on retaking all lux readings at 5m or greater in the future and will repost the chart whenever I get to that.

    Cheers,
    Tim

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