I was in Home Depot today thinking of possibly buying one of their half price led maglites and saw these. I didn't think much of them at first, but when I looked down the reflector I was surprised to see what looked like an XP-E. The back of the package says they even use Cree LEDs. I originally came here with the intention of getting an LED maglite, but I thought I give them a shot. They were just under $10. When I got home I was pleasantly surprised. They have a nice tint and they're real pocket rockets for what I paid for them. They can breakdown completely except for the switch, lens/reflector and pill which are pressed fitted. I think the main thing is to find out how to power them off of something better than 3AAA and how to heatsink the LED better than the empty space under it does.