P.S. By the look of some of the ZIP20 logos here, I wouldn't even be in the least bit surprised if Zippo decided to sue them!
Last edited by Phil Ament; 07-30-2012 at 09:21 AM.
The eBay listing is closed and they are no longer available on hkequipment.net
Oh, BTW, "Ain't nothin' like the real thing, baby....."
Definitely a fast turnaround.
I have to say, there is one thing I liked about the ZIP20: the knob functioned as a dimmer switch instead of a multi-position switch. I prefer infinitely-variable vs. pre-set settings. Why switch between banks of settings when I can just have all possible settings available at any time? Sadly, that feature will die along with the rest of the ZIP20.
link posted on the Niteye site is says "Shenzhen Jetbeam Electronic Technology CO., Ltd will attend Asia Outdoor Trade Show 2012 with its two brands – Niteye & JETBeam from 26 to 29 July."
Video review auf Deutsch:
Looks like someone purchased one on eBay before the listing closed. Maybe we'll see a review here on CPF or another forum?
Last edited by dudemar; 07-30-2012 at 11:41 AM.
The Zip20 is still available on hkequipment, it's just no longer on the front page.
I was thinking of ordering some other stuff from them just now but stopped because I saw the Zip20 still there lol
Last edited by KuanR; 07-30-2012 at 11:46 AM.
Honestly, if the SPY were available with an infinitely-adjustable knob as an option, I'd gladly forgo the programmable driver in exchange. As I said before, I never used that feature once in two years.
What a bunch of low-life dirty pieces of trash.
I really think the name-calling is going too far. People here seem to have a mental image of a bunch of fat cigar-smoking businessmen sitting around a conference table and having a good laugh at their tricky theft of Dave's design. Keep in mind that somewhere in China there is a machinist who spends his days figuring out how to program CNC lathes to make complex shapes like this, who is probably justifiably proud of his skill, and now he's being told that the past several months of his work will end up getting sold at a discount in some Third-World country with loose copyright laws, in an attempt to cut the company's losses.
Swiping Dave's design was a bad business decision. Don't make it personal.
Come on, Shawn. It's not personal, and I don't think we need to be reminded of the way these things go down. Maybe I'm wrong.
It's tough enough for an entrepreneur to make it without having to have their designs stolen and mass produced. Unfortunately, that's the world we live in. I'm more concerned with the person who created this design in the first place than with the "skilled worker" carrying out the "copy work." It takes a skilled worker to create the presses that produce counterfeit currency, too. Almost analogous....
We all know that's just the reality of a global economy. I doubt that anyone here has any problem with that skilled worker, but again, my concern is for the guy up in PA.
Meanwhile, my opinion is that we've all shown quite a bit of restraint and John's emotional comment (and my support of it) are pretty harmless.
It was a bad business decision *because* it was stealing, so we do agree on the ethics of the situation.
Not worth my time to have it fall on deaf, arrogant ears. Here, and Don's subforum, used to be the safe havens on CPF. First there, now here, not so much...
Gentlemen, PM's incoming deferring to the fact that I'm in Dave's house. If you'd like further clarification after that, I'll let fly here and take the time-out.
Phil Ament- your inbox is full.
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