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    Default Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    These will be used on a 2011 F150, mounted on a bumper height light bar, in conjunction with OEM high beams (whcih are halogen and pretty bad).

    Off road use only, mountain roads with a fair number of turns and some longer straights. Looking for better road vision overall, plus some edge lighting for critters ready to dash.

    For about the same price, I can get:

    • Two pairs of Rigid Dually's, perhaps one pair of 'Flood Beam' and one pair of 'Spot Beam', or four floods.
    • One pair of Rigid D2's, Driving beam.

    Anybody see any advantage of a single pair of D2's vs two pairs Dually's? If I go with the four dually's, do you think four floods, or two floods and two spots?

    Light output and beam patterns:

    D2 Driving:






    Dually Flood and Spot:





    Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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    I have the regular duallys on the front of my plow truck, they are great. I would think four duallys would be better as it would have more lux not to be confused with "lumen". The only thing i can think of would be running two sets of wires compared to one, and retro fitting them for four instead of two. are you using the factory fog lamps mounts? the dually floods throw pretty far but i think if you would be better of with two floods and two spot, btw floods are very very wide it will light up both sides of the road and trees 40 ft high. but i consider this to be very good thing.
    Last edited by TheExpert; 12-18-2011 at 01:23 AM.

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    Thnx...

    Think I'm going to order the dually's. If one set of the floods provides the light I need, will use the others on a few of the moto's...

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    they are really bright but just remember that it is a very wide flood, as long as that is what your looking for you are good to go.

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    Has anybody seen the Dually's and D2's side-by-side?

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    I wish that would really make me think about buying a set of d2s in amber to go along with the 40in bar.

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    I got a set of the Dually D2's in Flood on Ebay for $320 delivered. When I turn them on I never thought to myself I could use more light

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheExpert View Post
    .., btw floods are very very wide it will light up both sides of the road and trees 40 ft high. but i consider this to be very good thing.
    I consider it a good thing as well. I'm in the market for the dually's (not D2) to compliment the Baja Design 20" LED light bar. The 20" really throws well but I have almost no side to side coverage for turns. Where I live, the deer rule the night and I'd really like something in a small form factor that cover side to side very well.

    Any chance you could snap one pic to show their coverage? No big deal if not but thanks for posting up about them. Helps me quite a bit.

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    I've seen the Dually and D2 --- the D2 is a huge improvement.
    Bear in mind that these are for offroad use.
    And, truth to sing, they aren't all that good compared to some halogens that cost much much less. They lack "punch" if you know what I mean.
    And I'm an LED fan as most of you know. And a fan of these lights too ----- just not as driving lights.

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    Not impressed with the D2s floods I received. The beam pattern is very splotchy and not as bright as other similarly sized lights I've used. I haven't installed them and I'm considering selling them while I continue the hunt for another light in the same form factor. Any other suggestions out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maynor View Post
    Not impressed with the D2s floods I received. The beam pattern is very splotchy and not as bright as other similarly sized lights I've used. I haven't installed them and I'm considering selling them while I continue the hunt for another light in the same form factor. Any other suggestions out there?
    We must have different D2's as my floods have a bright smooth beam. What similarly size lights have you used? I thought these where the brightest for the size available at 2600 lumens each.

    Mine look very similar to

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6yNGM86-5w

    Mac
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    Shoot. I made a mistake. They are Dually's, not D2s. Less output than the D2s by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maynor View Post
    Shoot. I made a mistake. They are Dually's, not D2s. Less output than the D2s by far.
    A whole bunch less light.
    They make dandy back-up lights though.

    I liked the Trucklite LED spots and floods that I had on my Jeep. Trucklite headlights were fairly miserable; but, freed from attempting to aim their monsters, they were brilliant flame-throwers.
    I think they're pretty pricey for what they do though. Cheap and stinky Chinese HID lights are still the best bang for the buck for offroad lumens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilldweller View Post
    Trucklite headlights were fairly miserable

    They are far from Ideal but 100x better than the Brand new Silverstars I had installed for a week before buying the Trucklites.

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    Default Re: Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    Anybody see any strong advantage/disadvantage of going with 4 dually's vs. 2 D2's? (or 8 vs. 4, etc)

    The D2's have twice the lumens as the dually's, but they are also twice the price. Beam patterns differ a bit, but my thinking is that two pair of Dually's, one flood, one spot, might be a more effective than a single pair of D2's at the same price.

    Obviously if you only have room for a single pair, it would drive you towards the D2's, but they are so small mounting typically would not be a problem. Seems with twice the Dually's, you could tune the light output more. Spot plus floods, more outward angle on the sidemost lights for corner lighting, etc.

    I'm experimenting with some Duallys right now; I have four dually floods on loan. Three on a front light bar, another intended as a backup but not yet installed. Only one nightime/little moon/mountain roads test so far. Good cornering lights, and they fill most of the huge near field hole that my terrible oem headlights have, but as mentioned before, the floods definitely any distance lack punch.

    I've used the Kragen (Custom Accessories, 4" integrated ballast) driving lights before in other applications. No doubt in my mind that they offer more light and a better beam pattern for $100/light than the Dually.

    But to be fair, the Rigid's do offer several other advantages:
    • Very low power draw (15W Dually, 28W D2) vs. 35W Kragen's.
    • Very robust build. WAY better than the Kragen's. I've already cracked the housing on a Kragen, though admittedly on an enduro moto application.
    • More compact mounting.
    • Very nicely built wiring harness (vs. no harness with the Kragen's)
    • Cosmetics (admittedly not of major concern to many). IMHO, Rigids look decent, the Kragen's look like crap.
    • Made in the USA vs. China.


    Kragen= ~$100/light street price, Dually = ~$80/light street price, D2 = $160/light street price.

    Here's a quick picture of the three Dually's I'm playing with:


    Last edited by pfbz; 01-18-2012 at 01:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pfbz View Post
    Anybody see any strong advantage/disadvantage of going with 4 dually's vs. 2 D2's? (or 8 vs. 4, etc)
    One big advantage for the offroader is that with more lights, you can point them in more directions.
    The offroad environment is much more dynamic in terms of terrain navigation vs bogey-avoidance. It's slow work, often tedious and dangerous. The more angles that you are able to use to see, the better.

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    If anyone is unsure about rigid I would highly recommend to pick up just one set of duallys they are not that expensive and built very well, you can see some of their destructive testing on the website. Ill have to post some pics when i get that 40" bar. As they state its 15,800 lumens.

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    Redid my Rigid light mount yesterday... I wasn't happy with the stock tab spacing, and wanted the lights slightly higher and farther back, so I fab'ed up an aluminum bracket and used some PIAA 1.5" bolt on tabs to locate the new bracket...


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    Default Re: Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    Anyone have any feedback on the amber D2s?

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    Default Re: Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    I know this thread is a bit old, but, I just had a pair of the Dually D2 amber, in the driving beam pattern, installed on my Polaris Ranger HD on the front brush guard. And a set of the Dually clear, in the spot beam pattern installed on the top of the cab. I'll be heading out to my place in West Virginia this morning and I'll be there for a few days. After I've had a chance to take her out and try the lights out I'll post up how well they work. By reputation, and what I've researched, these Rigid lights are suppose to be the bomb. Couldn't find much on the Amber though. Since the Ranger will be going at a relatively slow rate through the woods, and in inclimate wheather, I hope the Amber will do a good job of cutting thru the muck.

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    Default Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    I have a pair of D2 Amber in flood and another pair in driving amber on my grizzly. Just last weekend I was out in the jungle riding thru torrential rain and running away from the rising flood waters of the river. It was around dusk and the visibility was down to no more than 20-30 meters. The amber allows me to see clearly where my other friends were using white and they had a hard time seeing the trail.

    The waterproofing on the D2 were good as it was completely submerged for a good period during river crossing.
    I would suggest using a good waterproof switch. The latest switch provided that was supposed to be waterproof, was not.

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    I would not mix both amber and white at the same time. The mixed beam does confuse me.
    The amber will appear half as bright as a similarly rated white beam. But once your eyes gets used to it, you can see.
    Depth perception for me is much better with the amber. Holes and undulations is picked up better using amber.
    Last edited by BenChiew; 10-20-2012 at 04:02 AM.

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    You can get the Rigids in a yellow now rather than amber; less loss of lumens.
    I can't think any use for the amber ones really.

    I was able to put a meter to a Rigid 10" lightbar a couple of days ago ----- the LUX numberw were dismal at 50 yards.
    Just to repeat, I like Rigid lights. They have a place in the offroad market and fill a need. Just don't confuse them with real driving or fog lights. They don't work for either of those purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilldweller View Post
    You can get the Rigids in a yellow now rather than amber; less loss of lumens.
    I can't think any use for the amber ones really.

    I was able to put a meter to a Rigid 10" lightbar a couple of days ago ----- the LUX numberw were dismal at 50 yards.
    Just to repeat, I like Rigid lights. They have a place in the offroad market and fill a need. Just don't confuse them with real driving or fog lights. They don't work for either of those purposes.

    I would not expect any LED lightbar to have good lux numbers at 50 yards. I can say when I had my Jeep with the Dually D2's and the Truck-Lite LED Headlights the D2's put out a ton of light and was impressive for such a small package. They where brighter than the Truck-Lite headlights.

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    Default Re: Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    Are these lights blinding to the oncoming traffic? I am looking for a set of lights to supplement the poor low-beams on my FJ Cruiser and I saw someone install D2s on their bumper. I am thinking about getting D2 wide amber to be using on highway/city driving in bad weather.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJedi View Post
    Are these lights blinding to the oncoming traffic? I am looking for a set of lights to supplement the poor low-beams on my FJ Cruiser and I saw someone install D2s on their bumper. I am thinking about getting D2 wide amber to be using on highway/city driving in bad weather.
    Yes they blind oncoming drivers.
    They are NOT for use on the road. They're miserable lights for use at speed anyhow.

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    Oh man, how come.... They get such great reviews on other sites. Even the wide-beam ones?
    Last edited by FJedi; 10-23-2012 at 03:49 PM.

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    Default Re: Rigid Industries Dually vs. D2 LED lights

    Quote Originally Posted by FJedi View Post
    Oh man, how come.... They get such great reviews on other sites...
    People on "other sites" are looking at them, not with them.
    And when you look at these lights, boy howdy. They do dazzle...
    But that's not the point of lights, right? You want to look with them at things, not blind your fellow motorists, etc.

    Now offroad, that's a different story. I'm all for stupid amounts of unfocussed light there if that's what you've got to work with.
    And I really like these lights because they're small, use very little power, and are tough. But they're really only good for going slowly offroad. Everything else you read about them is overstated.
    IMHO of course...

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    Which wavelength in the yellow is best for fog penetration?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilldweller View Post
    You can get the Rigids in a yellow now rather than amber; less loss of lumens.
    I can't think any use for the amber ones really.

    I was able to put a meter to a Rigid 10" lightbar a couple of days ago ----- the LUX numberw were dismal at 50 yards.
    Just to repeat, I like Rigid lights. They have a place in the offroad market and fill a need. Just don't confuse them with real driving or fog lights. They don't work for either of those purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benchiew View Post
    Which wavelength in the yellow is best for fog penetration?
    http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html

    To me the yellow just softens the blow to my eye.

    I metered the Dually over the weekend. It had about as much light at 25 feet as a sealed beam 7" Jeep headlight or a low-end H4 on lowbeam. It lacks focus, like I've been saying, but does put out a bunch of light for it's size and power demand.
    I still like them for wheeling in slow/tricky areas or for backup lights on an offroad rig.

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