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    Default Looking for an HID (presumably) thrower - Checklist Used

    Hi,

    I'll use the checklist to keep this as organized as possible for anyone that is kind enough to jump in and provide some recommendations. The few additional comments I'd add:

    - I really DO want to be able to utilize 18650 cells. I have hundreds of good ones that I want to put to use for this.
    - I have a quad SST-90 that just floods my room with light. I'm looking for at least as much, but preferably more OTF light than the quad SST-90 I own, but focused.
    - If some DIY is required that's ok. However, I do not have access to machining (lathes, etc).

    1) How would you prefer to purchase the light?


    ____I would like to purchase the light from a brick and mortar store. I am located in ______________.
    _x__I will be mail-ordering or buying online, so this doesn't matter.




    2) Budget: An easy question, but you may change your mind after answering the rest! :-)


    ____Less than $25.
    ____Less than $50.
    ____Less than $100.
    _x__Less than $150.
    ____Less than $300.
    ____I have no limit.
    ____I’m flexible, tell me what you gotJ.
    ____Other, please specify ________




    3) Format:


    _x__I want a flashlight.
    ____I want a headlamp.
    ____I want a lantern.
    ____I want a dive light.
    _x__I want a portable spotlight.




    4) Flashlight-specific format/size:


    ____Keychain size.
    ____Every day carry small (2-4 inches).
    ____Every day carry medium (4-7 inches).
    ____Holster carry.
    ____Big enough to need its own travel caseJ.
    _x__I don’t care.
    ____I don’t know.
    ____N/A




    5) Emitter/Light source:


    ____LED (known for efficiency, longevity, and compactness)
    ____Incandescent (known for superior color rendition)
    _x__HID (known for max output, but often at the expense of size)
    ____I don't know.




    6) Manufacturer:


    _x__I want to buy a light from a traditional mass producing manufacturer that is ready to go out of the box.
    _x__I would consider getting a light that is pieced together (for example a “host” or flashlight body from one manufacturer, and a “drop-in” emitter from another source). Under the right circumstances, this path can provide more options to the consumer to meet specific needs, and can often be easily upgradeable as technology improves.




    7) What battery type do you want to use?


    ____I intend to use alkaline batteries (AAA, AA, C, D) (disclaimer, while it does not preclude all choices, these are not recommended for many of today’s most powerful lights)
    ____I intend to use rechargeable nickel chemistry (NiCad, NiMH, NiZn)
    ____I intend to use lithium primary batteries (CR123, CR2, Energizer Advanced/Ultimate Lithium AA/AAA)
    _18650s_I intend to use rechargeable lithium (li-ion) chemistry. Feel free to specify a size if you know which size you want (14500, RCR123/16340, 17500, 17670, 18650, etc.)
    ____I want a light with an integrated rechargeable battery. (Note: these choices may be very limited unless you are looking at spotlights)




    8) How much genuine out the front (OTF) light do you want/need? Sometimes you can have too much light (trying to read up close up with a 100 lumen light is impossible).


    ____I want to navigate a dark room or read a map (0-10 lumens).
    ____I want to walk around an unlit rural area (50-150 lumens).
    ____I want to illuminate my entire backyard or a campsite (150-300 lumens).
    ____I want to illuminate an entire field, the neighbor's front yard several houses down, impress my friends and neighbors, etc. (300-700 lumens).
    _x__I want ridiculous amounts of lumens (800+ lumens).




    9) Throw vs. Flood: At what distance will you be most likely to use this light? Select all that apply.


    ____Less than 1 yard/meter (reading, other close work)
    ____Less than 5 yards/meters (looking for something inside a dark shed/garage/basement)
    ____5-20 yards/meters (check out a noise in the backyard)
    ____30-50 yards/meters (I have a big backyard)
    ____50-150 yards/meters (I live in a very rural area/farm with wide open spaces)
    _x__150+ yards (I want maximum throw possible)




    10) Runtime: Not over-inflated manufacturer runtime claims, but usable brightness measured from first activation to 50% with new batteries (Measured on maximum output).


    ____Up to 30 minutes (I want the brightest [and potentially smallest] light for brief periods)
    ____30-60 minutes (I have plenty of batteries just ready to be changed)
    ____90-120 minutes (Runtime is moderately important, but still not critical)
    ____3 hours + (I critically need this light to run on max for extended periods in between battery changes/charges).
    _x__Not a concern.




    11) Durability/Usage: Generally the old phrase “you get what you pay for” is very accurate for flashlights.


    ____Not Important (A “night-stand” light).
    _x__Slightly Important (Walks around the neighborhood).
    ____Very Important (Camping, Backpacking, Car Glove-box).
    ____Critical (Police, Fire, Search & Rescue, Caving, Survival).
    ____I don't care.
    ____I don’t know.




    12) Switch Type and location (choose all that apply):


    ____I want a forward clicky (Helpful for momentary activation and signaling).
    ____I want a reverse clicky (For use with multi-mode/level lights).
    ____I want a momentary switch (Predominantly for use with signaling and short bursts of momentary light only).
    ____I want a twisty switch (Tighten the head/tailcap to activate, and the light will stay on until the head/tailcap is loosened).
    ____I want a body mounted switch (near the head, like on a Maglite).
    ____I want a tail mounted switch (found on the majority of today’s high end lights).
    _x__I don't care.
    ____I don’t know.
    ____Other, please specify____________________.




    13) User Interface (UI) and mode selection. Select all that apply.


    ____A simple on-off with only one output level is fine for me.
    ____I want 2 light levels. (Brighter/short runtime and Dimmer/long runtime.)
    ____I want multiple light levels. (Some lights have 5-16 light levels.)
    ____I want a programmable light.
    ____I want a selector ring.
    ____I want a strobe mode. (Blinks to show location.)
    ____I want SOS mode.
    ____I want a beacon mode.
    _x__I don’t care.
    ____I don’t know.




    14)Material/Finish/Coating


    ____Plastic/composite body (this may limit your choices significantly).
    ____Anodized Aluminum – either type II or III (Hard Anodized) (Aluminum, specifically HA, is the most common material/finish for today’s flashlights).
    ____Stainless steel (durable, but much heavier than aluminum)
    ____Titanium (durable and nearly as lightweight as aluminum, but can be moderately to significantly more expensive).
    _x__I don’t care.
    ____I don’t know.
    ____Other, please specify____________.




    15) Special Needs/extras: Is there anything else you want or need that hasn't been mentioned? Select any below.


    ____Red filter (for preserving night vision).
    ____Other filter colors (Amber, Green, Blue, _________).
    ____Dedicated R/G/B secondary LEDs.
    ____“Hybrid” light (bright incandescent combined with long running LEDs)
    ____Pocket/belt clip
    ____Holster
    ____Wrist/Neck Lanyard
    ____Crenulated bezel
    ____Non-sparking Intrinsically Safe (IS) for use in explosive environments

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    Default Re: Looking for an HID (presumably) thrower - Checklist Used

    With your budget of under $150 I'd say get a Stanley HID0109. It will light up things a mile away, no exaggeration. They're about $70 and they have a built in rechargeable pack with a runtime of about 20-25 minutes. Some people have done their own mods with the battery pack, but I have no use for anything more than the 20 minutes of runtime I get. The light is awesome. It's big though so my Fenix TK45 flashlight gets a lot more use.

    There is a 2 part thread on the Stanley.

    Part 1: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?225844-Stanley-H.I.D.-and-1365-lumen-spotlights-(Part-1)

    Part 2: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?230868-Stanley-H.I.D.-and-1365-lumen-spotlights-(Part-2)

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    Default Re: Looking for an HID (presumably) thrower - Checklist Used

    You think (at 35W) that would equal or outperform the OTF light from a quad SST-90 setup? I'm a little surprised by that, but I'll reserve judgment until I have time to read those two threads later tonight.

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