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    Default 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    100W HID Mod – 15 Million Candlepower Host

    I built a 100W Mod using a host I found at Quality Farm & Fleet. I installed some heat-resistant material around the Reflector to protect the internal components from the heat. I replaced the lead acid batteries from the original light with a LIPO Battery I purchased off another CPF member. The LIPO Battery is the same battery that powers my YAO 35W/80W HID. I mounted the 100W Ballast on the bottom (outside) of the light, again similar to ma_sha1's Mod.

    100W Mod Specifications

    • Ballast Output: 86 watts each (77 volts at 1.12 amps).
    • Estimated Light Output: A little over 8,000+ Lumens
    • Powered by (1) 14.8v, 12 ah LiPo Battery
    • The light is neither water-resistant, nor waterproof.
    • Continuous runtime: To Be Determined
    • Weight: 6 lbs
    Cost Information:
    • Build Cost: $ 212.00
    Bill of Material:
    (1) – 15 Million Candlepower 55W Halogen Spotlight
    • Imported by Ultimate Solution Tools, Fullerton, CA
    • H3 Type, 55W Halogen Bulb
    • Sold by: Quality Farm & Fleet
    • Reflector Diameter: 170mm (Bezel screws on)
    • Overall Length of Light: 280mm
    • Body area behind reflector (Battery and Cabling area): H: 80mm x W: 105mm x L: 160mm
    • Unit Price: $25.00 plus Tax



    (1) - 100W/10-18V-HID Ballast and Bulb (4300K, H3 Type Bulb)

    • Ebay Price: $115.00/Kit (2 – Ballasts & 2 – Bulbs). Divided $115.00 by 2 = $57.50/Mod
    Note, I could have ordered (1) Ballast and Bulb for $72.00, but I will eventually make two of these lights.
    • Input Voltage: Min 10V/ Max 18V, Current Rating: 8.5 Amps, Operating Temp: -40 - +85
    • Ballast Dimension: 111mm x 97mm x 36mm
    • Bulb: Generic, H3, 3000 Hrs, 4300k. Different temperature bulbs are available. The bulb will be overdriven, so you will not get 3000 Hrs out of it.


    (1) – 14.8V, 12 ah LIPO Battery
    • Purchased from CPF Member: Lips (Vic)
    • Price: $100.00 plus shipping
    • Dimensions: H:62mm x W:90mm x L:105mm
    LIPO Battery Lead Acid (Original Light)




    (1) – Female Adapter Plug for Charging Battery
    • Purchased from CPF Member: Lips

    • Price: $5.00
    • I am using this with my existing charger that I have for my YAO 35W/80W HID. You can purchase a charger for this battery from Lips, if you decide to do this Mod.
    (1) – Universal Starter Heat Shield Reflective Mylar for Motor Homes / Race Cars
    Materials, Hardware
    • (3) – Hillman 5/16-18 x 1 ¼ Socket Head Cap Screw – Lowes
    • (3) – 5/16-18 Lock Nut – Lowes
    • (3) – 5/16-18 Nylon Nuts – Lowes Depot
    • (1) – Dean Ultra Plugs (wire connectors) – Local Hobby Store
    • (1) – Package of 8”, thin Zip Ties – Walmart
    • (2) - Spools of Different Color Wire, 16 Ga.
    • (?) - Radio Shack Crimp Connectors
    • (?) - Nylon Strap Material
    • (?) - Rubber Pad Material
    • (?) - Electrical Tape
    • (?) - Duct Tape
    • Cum Hardware Materials: $10.00
    Tools:
    · Wire Crimper – Wire Work
    · Wire Striper – Wire Work
    · Socket Head Tools – Used to secure Ballasts to case with SCHS (socket head cap screws)
    · Needle Nose Pliers - Used to remove Clip that holds in the bulbs and other fine work
    · Various Drill Bits – Drilling holes in case
    · Electric Drill – Drilling holes in case
    · Small Hot Melt Glue – Seal around where wires enter casing - optional
    · Dremel with cutting wheel, grinder bit – Trimming internal plastic mounting bracket, cutting hole in Host
    · Soldering Gun & Electrical Solder – Wire work
    · Heat Gun – Heat Shrink covers on Dean wire connectors. Hair Dryer would probably work too.
    · Small Hack Saw - Cutting out plastic rib to make a slot for the battery

    Building Steps
    Comments: If you plan on making this light from these directions, I would recommend reading through them first, and then read each step individually before executing a task.

    Step 1 – Cut off LegsI used a Dremel to cut off the legs on the bottom of the light so I can install the 100W Ballast.







    • Here are some additional Pics.

    Step 2 – Attach 100W Ballast
    I drilled three holes in the bottom of the host to mount the Ballast. I had to mount the Ballast so that the Ballast cables were at the back of the light to avoid an interference issue with the reflector. I attached the ballast to the Host using the Socket Head Cap Screws & Lock Nuts. I used the Nylon Nuts between the Ballast and the host to create an air gap. I drilled a hole into the left side of the host for the Ballast’s power wires. I cut out a hole in the right side of the host for the Ballast’s output wires. If I were to do this mod again, I would probably run the Ballast wires in through the back of the host instead of the sides. There seems to be enough internal clearance space between the battery and the host.




    Step 3 – Prepare Battery
    To create a snug fit, I cut some rubber material into strips and then attached/glued them to the battery. I also modified a nylon strap and put it around the battery so I could easily pull the battery out of the case. Next I added a special quick disconnect to the battery cables.



    Step 4 – Prepare Charge Plug
    I decided to purchase a new charge plug to install into the light. The connections had to be soldered, and I had to drill out the existing charge plug hole in the host to make it larger. The new plug came with a rubber plug to keep out moisture. I would note the terminals on the Charge Plug are fragile. In fact I broke of the positive lead connector and had to order another one.




    Step 5 – Prepare the On/Off Switch

    I basically rewired the switch with 16 gauge wire. I thought the existing wire gauge was too small.




    Step 6 – Prepare Plastic Shield Plate

    I used a dremel to cut out some sections to eliminate an interference issue with the mounting bolts for the Ballast. I also thought I had to cut out a section to provide clearance for the small square ballast component (don’t know the official name), but I didn’t have to do that….Live and Learn.




    Trimmed



    Step 6 – Stuff it

    With the battery installed, stuff the cables into the host and then screw down the Plastic Shield Plate. Everything stuffed pretty well as you can tell. As mentioned above, I did not have to cut out a clearance section for the ballast component.




    Step 7 – Install Heat Reflector Material

    Based on some of the other mods, I added the Heat Reflector Material around the reflector. This stuff insulates the Battery and Cables/Wires from the heat generated by the bulb. I used a little duct tape to hold the Heat Reflector Material together for installation.




    Step 8 – Close it up

    Install the bulb into the Reflector, install the Reflector into the host, and screw on the Lens Cover. I glued on a piece of black plastic to the outside of the host to cover up the hole where the Ballast cables enter the right side of the host.





    Final Comments:
    When I fired this up, it has a very strong spot similar to my 80W mule. It has a tighter spot than the Barn Burner.

    I'll try to post some beam shots of this 100W MOD, my 80W Mule, and my Barn Burner in a couple of weeks.

    Stollman
    Last edited by stollman; 01-27-2012 at 06:36 PM.

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Very interesting - that is going to turn into a monster thrower... With the lipo you should hopefully shed some weight ?
    During the day when I don't need a torch ... RC is my hobby http://rc.runryder.com/helicopter/gallery/47842/Always on the lookout for McGizmo/Kuku Titanium torches with Trits..

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Here's the heat shielding I used in my LarryK18.

    ww.pyro-gear {dot} com/safety_children.php (add the missing characters)

    Imagine the heat generated from the 30V, 22.5 Amp sealed beam consuming about 675 Watts.

    This stuff is great. Cuts with scissors, conforms to almost any shape and is super effective at blocking heat and very cheap for the amount you get. (Should be if it's meant to protect people while escaping a fire) Some pics here of the material in my LarryK18. My two 25V Lipos sit about 1 1/8" from the back of the sealed beam and after running 10 minutes, there is very little detectable heat increase noticeable at this part of the battery versus the far side.

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...K14&highlight=
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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    I added some text and pics for the build. I hope to post some beam shots is a couple of weeks.

    Stollman

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Some really impressive performace for the price! Great mod and thanks for sharing.

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    i was just looking at this particular light the other day at F&F here, i thought it would make a Wonderful HID mod host. i'm anxious to see what the beam shots look like. i planned on buy'n 2, along with 2 100w HID kits and modding both, selling 1 which i hope will cover the cost of both lights, giving mine $0 charge
    please let me know how yours turns out!
    if your not wearing a #12 welding screen than it ain't bright enough! "Hand-Sun H.I.D." 55w & 75w(for sale), Rocky 3w LED, Stanley 109 35w mod'd, Maxa-Beam Gen II, 55w hid/100w incan Vector Twin, 400w MH long arc, 100w MH mid arc. Amondotech n30.

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    I think the Mod turned out pretty good. The light is just big enough to mount the 100W ballast and is a lot smaller than the Thor 18 million candlepower spotlight. I bought two of these lights and plan on running the ballast wired in through the back of the 2nd host instead of taking them into the side. It will look a little cleaner..
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    I live around Cincinnati and am waiting for the outside temperatures to get a little warmer for taking the beam shots.
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    Thanks all for the positive feedback.

    Stollman

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    Where did you get the 100watt ballasts? And price?

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    Ballast kit is available on Ebay for around $120.00

    They sell them in a 12V & 24V version. Make sure you get the 12V version.

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Gotta link Stollman?
    WWII 60" Anti Aircraft Carbon Arc (Sold), Short Arcs: 1.6KW NightSun, 1KW VSS-3A, .8KW TrakkaBeam, 600 Watt M-134 Gun Light, 500 Watt X-500-14s, 500 Watt Starburst, 300 Watt Locators, Megaray, 150 Watt Set Beam & Communicator, Maxabeam Gen3, LarryK14@52V

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    Nice mod!

    Building one. Quick question...

    What about the heat at the front of the reflector and glass? I mean since it's a plastic bezel and housing? I would imagine a fairly short duty cycle to make sure the bezel didn't melt correct?

    Any estimates on battery run time between charges with this set up?

    Thanks!

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    The light originally is a 55W Halogen. The output od this mod is in the mid 80's. I have not done a long-run test as of yet, so I don't know how well the bezel would hold up on an extended run.

    Regarding run-time, I get about 30 minutes on a 5000ah battery (Vector 192 BLF uses these). The battery I am using for this light is 12000ah, so I expect maybe one hour.

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    This sounds very good!


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    Sorry for double post, but this light is bad to the bone!

    I built one for a customer, and I think I may have to build one for myself now!

    He asked me to see if the legs can be kept in tact, so I mounted the ballast on the side: (and the battery is mounted 'off center' inside to balance)







    This thing is brighter than the Sun man!

    Thanks for showing the tutorial...
    Last edited by jayrob; 05-26-2013 at 10:10 PM.

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Quote Originally Posted by stollman View Post
    100W HID Mod – 15 Million Candlepower Host

    I built a 100W Mod using a host I found at Quality Farm & Fleet. I installed some heat-resistant material around the Reflector to protect the internal components from the heat. I replaced the lead acid batteries from the original light with a LIPO Battery I purchased off another CPF member. The LIPO Battery is the same battery that powers my YAO 35W/80W HID. I mounted the 100W Ballast on the bottom (outside) of the light, again similar to ma_sha1's Mod.

    Step 8 – Close it up

    Install the bulb into the Reflector, install the Reflector into the host, and screw on the Lens Cover. I glued on a piece of black plastic to the outside of the host to cover up the hole where the Ballast cables enter the right side of the host.





    Final Comments:
    When I fired this up, it has a very strong spot similar to my 80W mule. It has a tighter spot than the Barn Burner.

    I'll try to post some beam shots of this 100W MOD, my 80W Mule, and my Barn Burner in a couple of weeks.

    Stollman
    Stollman, VERY nice!



    Quote Originally Posted by jayrob View Post
    Sorry for double post, but this light is bad to the bone!

    I built one for a customer, and I think I may have to build one for myself now!

    He asked me to see if the legs can be kept in tact, so I mounted the ballast on the side:




    This thing is brighter than the Sun man!

    Jayrob, that thing genuinely almost looks like a laser which is about to burst that tree into flames! Niccce.

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    Default Re: 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Alright, this will be the basis for my upcoming spotlight build. Very nice thread and loved the detail!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kemp View Post
    Alright, this will be the basis for my upcoming spotlight build. Very nice thread and loved the detail!
    Using the same host as stollman or the same game plan with a different host?

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    Default 100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

    Same host most likely

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