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    Well, I give up. Finally ceased the test...the light ran for 28 hours on low AFTER I'd run the batteries to well below regulation. At the time I stopped it, the measured output was around .15 lumen - batteries had 1.52 and 1.67 volts left.

    Let's think about this - Scout ran his for 53 hours on low. I ran mine on high for 2 hours 10 minutes, then another 28 hours (and it will still light the emitter.) If Scout used his on low for 15 minutes a day, that's 212 days. If I ran mine 15 minutes a day combined, that's almost 9 days on high plus 112 more days on low.

    .15 lumen not useful? Really? I invite you to enter a dark room with night adjusted vision and fire up a 1/10 lumen light. Those of you who know will agree, it's incredibly useful - almost 'too bright.' And it was only in the last few hours that it dropped below 1 lumen. At the beginning of the low "let's exhaust it" test, the light was at 3 lumen and would still switch to high with a burst of around 50 lumen. Only after around 20 hours did it begin to drop below 3 lumen...

    Now this isn't meant to morph into a comparison of run times and who's light does better, etc., but rather to tip our hats to a pretty awesome combo - the Malkoff light module and the Elzetta host - combined they offer great output, bullet proof construction, and AWESOME run time on primaries! I'm like scout - I don't typically use primaries, but in these lights I just might decide otherwise when I want to ensure I have light for the long haul. SHTF? I'm grabbin' an Elzetta with primaries! Oh, and BTW, I've added an M61, high CRI M61, M60F and M61NLL to my stable of light modules. Oh, for enough hosts to run them all, but Elzetta gives you that option!

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    Default Re: Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - PHOTO HEAVY!

    Don't forget the M91.

    Thanks for the tests guys! Incredible.
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    Yes! Thanks!!

    Now, how long does the stobe run for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashy bazook View Post
    Yes! Thanks!!

    Now, how long does the strobe run for?
    Good question - didn't try that! Perhaps it's time to sacrifice another set of primaries - only this time maybe a THREE cell, as I just this week received a new 3 cell complete light. I'll pop the strobe cap on it and test it out this weekend -although I expect that it'll run longer than just the weekend!

    Stay tuned...

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    I am in the process of building a light from Oveready and after reading the reviews decided to pick up an Elzetta. This light is solid. The beam pattern is pretty similar to my G2X Pro and a the light itself is a little more on the cool side. I would agree that the switch is a little soft and unfortunately the light did not work with my Triad tail.

    Suffice it to say the momentary lo/hi is much easier to operate than the double-click on my SF.

    I would highly recommend this light.
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    How does the Elzetta compare in heft to a Malkoff MD2? Is the ZFL-M60 very forward heavy like an MD2?

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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    Quote Originally Posted by Slumber Pass View Post
    How does the Elzetta compare in heft to a Malkoff MD2? Is the ZFL-M60 very forward heavy like an MD2?
    I have an MD2 due to arrive today - I'll update this post when it does. I can say that the Elzetta (I have 3) doesn't feel forward heavy. I have the plain, low profile and crenelated bezels, with 2 2 cell and 1 3 cell bodies. They all feel balanced to me.

    UPDATE - my MD2 arrived and I LOVE it, but it is a bit more hefty than the Elzetta. Nothing negative about either - I love the heft and structure of the MD2. The Elzetta seems (purely subjective - I haven't weighed them or looked at the specs) a bit lighter. And it doesn't seem quite as forward heavy...
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    I put a 2xAA delrin 17mm tube in my 3 cell Elzetta. Then I put my M31 in there, the low on the hi low TC is like 3 lumens, its grrrrrrreeeat!
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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    I couldn't resist any longer. I ordered an LS2D (Low-Pro bezel, 2 cell, Hi-Lo tail cap). Your review pushed me over the edge so thank you very much!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slumber Pass View Post
    I couldn't resist any longer. I ordered an LS2D (Low-Pro bezel, 2 cell, Hi-Lo tail cap). Your review pushed me over the edge so thank you very much!
    Congratulations! I think you'll love it...

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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    I received my ZFL-M60 yesterday and I am very pleased with it. I was worried about the switch, since it was described as "mushy". I prefer firm switches like those on Surefire X series lights, but I really like the switch on this thing! Good resistance, short travel with a very muffled click. Thanks again for the review!



    And the obligatory gun shot


    And a quick closet beamshot. ZFL-M60 on the left and an LX2 on the right. Both on low.
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    Too bad there's rings/halos on the ZFL-M60 .
    Wish: 1) Super low beacon; easy find flashlight. 2) Low voltage indicator, so not stranded without light. 3) Simple, one handed control ring mode changer (magnetic control ring). 4) Flood beam for walking/tasks. 5) Pocket carry. 6) LiFePO4.


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    Quote Originally Posted by snakyjake View Post
    Too bad there's rings/halos on the ZFL-M60 .
    Yeah, that one ring is pretty pronounced, but the rest of the spill is uniform. The LX2 has some areas that are less bright in the spill beam. Just the nature of lights with optics I guess. I have other lights for when I want to do some white wall hunting. I plan on getting an M61L for times I need a prettier beam and better runtime. Overall, I'm very excited about the purchase.

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    Nice! Good luck with it.

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    I've been looking at the Elzetta lights recently to use as a work light (LEO). Currently using a HDS 170 which is super versatile but I really miss/prefer the piston style switch of my old SF 6P. I'm looking at the M60F with the rotary switch. Anyone have any experience/opinions with the flood beam drop-in model? I also noticed the crenellated bezel was pretty aggressive. I inquired at Elzetta whether it would be an effective glass breaker to which they responded "With proper precautions, the Elzetta ZFL-M60 crenellated bezel may be used to break glass". Any thoughts on its effectiveness in this regard?

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    Quote Originally Posted by P_A_S_1 View Post
    I've been looking at the Elzetta lights recently to use as a work light (LEO). Currently using a HDS 170 which is super versatile but I really miss/prefer the piston style switch of my old SF 6P. I'm looking at the M60F with the rotary switch. Anyone have any experience/opinions with the flood beam drop-in model? I also noticed the crenellated bezel was pretty aggressive. I inquired at Elzetta whether it would be an effective glass breaker to which they responded "With proper precautions, the Elzetta ZFL-M60 crenellated bezel may be used to break glass". Any thoughts on its effectiveness in this regard?
    I own a couple of the flood modules (Malkoff.) My perspectives are civilian - hopefully an LEO can jump into the discussion. If you are looking to flood a near field area with light, the flood is awesome. Logically, there's not a lot of reach or throw, but if you are coming into a (large or small) room and want to light it up, this would be a good choice. I've used mine walking my dogs in the dark, and it'll light up a pretty good sized yard, too.

    As for breaking glass, my OPINION is that the crenelated bezel would make a decent tool - my only concern would be maybe breaking the lens? Still, maybe you've seen the video in this link...these guys repeatedly shot an Elzetta and a Surefire (with a shotgun). They were both very impressive, but the Elzetta was amazing.

    Nice, too, that the Elzetta gives you a number of battery choices, including using 2 RCRs.

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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    Thanks. My other concern is the LED module itself, its been out for a while and I would think it's due for an upgrade in lumens or runtimes but IDK. I kind of got interested in these modules when I saw one at work but I think they might of had the MCE with the 400 lumen output.


    BTW that light was bright for a flood!
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    Quote Originally Posted by P_A_S_1 View Post
    Thanks. My other concern is the LED module itself, its been out for a while and I would think it's due for an upgrade in lumens or runtimes but IDK. I kind of got interested in these modules when I saw one at work but I think they might of had the MCE with the 400 lumen output.
    It's pretty awesome with the M61 - a bit more output, more of a throw/spill kind of beam. I prefer it over all the others. It is a McGizmo reflector and it has a similar beam profile to the much loved Haiku.

    I can't relate to your needs as an LEO, but if I were entering a room and depending on my light to a) illuminate and b) disorient (if only for a couple of seconds), that M61 might be my choice.

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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    To be honest needs of a light in the field vary but in my current assignment I find I'm using the light at distances between 5-50 feet most of the time. I have had many lights over the years and found they all have their pros and cons.

    Thanks for the help.

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    I think that M61/Elzetta combo might do the trick. I'm sending you a private message of possible interest...

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    Get the 3 cell Elzetta, and get an M61 219 HCRI. I think that would give you the best variation between throw and flood. Think of the M61 219 as a floody version of an XPG with HCRI capabilities. Not as much of a hot spot as an original M61, but more versatile in your range of 5-50 feet. Think of it as a wall of light!

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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    run4jc,

    Thanks. PM sent.

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    Possible to bore Elzetta host to accept 18650 battery ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uncle wong View Post
    Possible to bore Elzetta host to accept 18650 battery ?
    I'm testing some now. The key question is how the tailcap pin used in many Elzetta caps interacts with the new body lip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    I'm testing some now. The key question is how the tailcap pin used in many Elzetta caps interacts with the new body lip.
    WoW .. Good news from Dan .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    I'm testing some now. The key question is how the tailcap pin used in many Elzetta caps interacts with the new body lip.
    Wow, that's great news. The body at the threads does look thin, but if it's possible, I'd like to get one bored.
    Last edited by Slumber Pass; 07-08-2012 at 12:19 AM.

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    Im just getting in the these lights now and a 18650 would be great.

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    2x17500 was too long in my 3 cell...
    -PSM

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    Default Re: UPDATED Elzetta ZFL M60 Mini Review - RUN TIMES ADDED

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    I'm testing some now. The key question is how the tailcap pin used in many Elzetta caps interacts with the new body lip.
    How did these tests go? An Elzetta being able to take 18650's would be the ultimate host for Malkoff Drop ins.

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