Nevermind, looks like you can!
I remember some were speculating that SF would package the dongle with the lights but what you said has cleared up the air. So we now know that SF would indeed sell the dongle as an optional accessory. I wonder how much it would cost then.
Well thats BS. Sorry, I love Surefire, but for them to have and advertise programmable lights, and let us buy them, but NOT give us the ability to program them, well, like I said, thats BS.
Now if all the rechargeables are going to be released within 30 days of the first (the Lawman), then fine, but still, it should be packaged with the light.
They already have it developed, otherwise they wouldnt know if it worked, and Ive seen videos of it working, so, again, its not all that hard for them to do it, its just that as of now, like you said, they put production of it on the back burner.
It wont affect me buying any of them, but I do have a right to not be happy with them about it....
And I still say it should be packaged with the lights, as its directly related to the funciton of the light.
Im sure its just a business decision that they dont, and thats fine, but it would make a lot more sense to have it with the lights.
I suppose given the fact that more than a few of us will purchase multiple programmable lights, that will use the same interface, it may make more sense money wise for us to have them available separately, but again, I want it with my light so I can use all the features of said light right away.
Im not really a patient guy...lol, though I have been waiting for the Lawman for 2 years now....so maybe Im getting better...
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- add cost
- reduce surefire's profit
- or both
I am not arguing with your disappointment over this, just pointing out that innovative as this is, and as much as users of these forums would like the feature (I know I certainly would), that the number of folks in SF's core market who'd want it might really be fairly low. Would you, for example, need a dongle for every flashlight? No, you'd really only likely need just one, which you'd (presumably) use to program many lights for your organization.
What's the usage case for changing the programming of a given light more than once or twice, until it's perfect for your use? (Other than it's cool to be able to do, and people on this forum would almost certainly do interesting things.)
BTW, am I the only one who giggles a little, like an adolescent, every time they see the word "dongle"? You'd think, after 30 years, I'd get over this. But nope.
I get it about the dongle (no you arent the only one), but I think some have overblown my disappointment into disgust or something....the internet has a way of letting people decide for themselves how upset a person is...and act according to their own idea on that. I agree on all your points too about it...most wont use it, or buy it, and would probably be more disappointed than I am about having to pay for it with a light when they wont use it...as I said, its been blown out of proportion...but we have to have something to do right?
As far as videos go, one was floating around here somewhere, and it wasnt only about the programming, rather an interesting little addition to a video about all the lights and the features of them. I caught it, and caught a lot of other info that Ive shared in this thread too, though if I need a video to prove any of that info, please feel free to contact a mod to delete them, as I didnt know I would have to have documented proof and as such did not save links....my bad.
Hopefully they follow through on this, and the dongles will see the light of day. (Sorry, I can't help but giggle over that last sentence...)
I have an original U2 and I'm debating going with a UM2 or something else. UM2 seems bigger and heavier with no clip. Wondering if keeping the U2 and scraping together for a UB3T for high power adventures would be worthwhile.
When's the UM2 coming out, anyway?
Do something alone and it's weird, do it with others and it's a club.
EB1 and UNR are scheduled for a July release.
Great news thanks.
I can't wait to buy a EB1.
I can't wait for Robin24k to test these!!!
How reliable is that site? It mentions the eb1 as having 2 x cr123a's.
Sf is hurting right now they are trying to sub lease 75,000 sq ft of their mfg space and still have 5 years on the leas according to a friend of mine in he commercial real estate business in southern cal.
OT but that could mean anything. Production ramping down from dwindling military contracts, more efficient manufacturing methods or reduction in the number of models offered are three possibilities that spring to mind.
God, im tired of waiting
C'mon Surefire, be faster
My main concern about the EB1 is that I have no idea what the programming tool is going to cost. It would be great to be able to reprogram it to your liking but at what cost?
Also, the EB1 is longer than the original backup. 4.4". The LX2 is only one inch longer at 5.4" and brighter and longer lasting. It's too bad they couldn't have kept it as short as the original.
By the way,
Do you like your UB3T better than your 400L M3LT? Just wondering since you have had both of those for some time.
I'm wondering what the efficiency of the EB1 is going to be when run on low compared to the older E1B version?
There is a new video about the new 2211 wristlight on their youtube channel.
Neat-o video! The acting could use some work, but that's a cool little light. I won't hold my breath, but it sure is nice.
The new Backup looks great!