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    Default New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    I just received my new Mini Mag Pro+ from Brightguy.com. First impressions are, its a Maglite! Same look, with the same twist for spot / flood beam. The interface is somewhat different. Point the light down and it turns on in low mode. Turn the light on in any other position and it turns on in high mode. It appears just a little longer than the old 2AA maglight with just a slightly smaller head, but I don't have one to compare to. I will have to wait until night to compare but the light seems more like around 200 lumens that 245 to me.







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    cool, let us know how it is when it gets dark! Just ordered mine after seeing this post. Can't find them anywhere else. Another poster showed some beam shots that have been taken down now, but it looked warmer than the xl series. Do you have any of the XL's to compare it to?
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    Nice. Although if it's ANSI rated at 245 lumens, I'm not sure I'd believe it's only making 200 lumens as a visual observation.

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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    HitTheSpot,

    You mentioned pointing down will switch to low mode, what if I want to use high mode when I am pointing downward to look for things.

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    A new US-made flashlight out on the market - excellent. Thanks for posting - I look forward to seeing beamshots.
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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    Quote Originally Posted by dealgrabber2002 View Post
    HitTheSpot,

    You mentioned pointing down will switch to low mode, what if I want to use high mode when I am pointing downward to look for things.
    It's only when you turn the light on. If you point the light down "when you turn it on" it will turn on in low mode. If you point the light in any other direction "when you turn it on" it will turn on in high mode.

    Hope this helps clarify.

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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    How is the PWM on low mode?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyfgroove View Post
    How is the PWM on low mode?
    I can't detect any. However, I have never been particularly sensitive to PWM. I have never detected any PWM on lights that I've owned, even known offenders. So don't use me as a final judge.
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    I check if PWM is being used by waving my hand right in front of a light. Works first time, everytime . If PWM is slow enough, ala Rebel MiniMags, you can see weird single frames of your fingers. Hopefully Pro/+ uses a good old current limiting circuit though.

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    Can you see if regular Minimag tailcaps fit? I'm hoping a Kroll switch will fit.
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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    Neat mode system.

    How many lumens do you figure on low?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEDAdd1ct View Post
    Neat mode system.

    How many lumens do you figure on low?
    According to BrightGuy, low is 25%, so it'd be around 60 lumens.
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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    I think I would find the discharge graph on low at 25% rather amusing.

    27 hours...?

    Why the disclaimer not to use lithium "AA" and NiMh?
    Last edited by LEDAdd1ct; 02-13-2012 at 10:39 PM.

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    I assume the emitter used is a XP-G (can anyone verify)? Assuming the emitter is a XP-G (bin obviously unknown, assume at least R5) a little math can be done on the amp draw.

    245 lumens OTF would mean approximately ~320 emitter lumens (75% optical efficiency). To reach 320 emitter lumens a current draw would be in the neighborhood of 900 to 1000ma. With a Vf of around 3.35 @ 1000ma that would mean a power consumption (Pout) of 3.35 watts. Obviously Pin does not equal Pout so I'll throw out guess of a DC boost circuit efficiency of lets say around 80%. That would mean a Pin of 4.19 watts. Current draw of a 2AA nimh setup would be ~1.75 amps.. ouch.

    This is all purely speculation, but just something to think about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilKevin715 View Post
    I assume the emitter used is a XP-G (can anyone verify)? Assuming the emitter is a XP-G (bin obviously unknown, assume at least R5) a little math can be done on the amp draw.
    Yep, according to this, it's an XP-G.
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    Oh yea forgot to add, can anyone unscrew the head and see how good the thermal contact of the pill/module is with the battery tube? 245 lumens OTF is nice and all... but it wont mean much if there is a poor thermal path.
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    I would suppose it is not regulated, anyone know?
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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    It is definately regulated, I would expect to see a drop to 25 or 50% after 12 minutes. I'll post runtime graphs after I get my samples...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robin24k View Post
    It is definately regulated, I would expect to see a drop to 25 or 50% after 12 minutes. I'll post runtime graphs after I get my samples...
    Thanks Robin, looking forward to your results. Ordered one today, expect it by thursday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEDAdd1ct View Post
    Why the disclaimer not to use lithium "AA" and NiMh?
    L92 and NiMH cells really should be fine. My older (Rebel) Minimag was brightest and ran longest on lithium primaries, and crappy Energizer 2500s were close but didn't run as long. The old Minimag Rebels just used a voltage boost converter though, and current to the emitter varied with voltage input. Shouldn't be an issue with the Pro lights, as they're probably regulated like the XL and ML lights (alkalines- ...NiMH-).





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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    Eneloops shouldn't be an issue, right?

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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    Eneloops will be the best option for the Mini Mag Pro lights. As LilKevin pointed out, this light will draw considerable current (for AA cells) on high mode, which will cause alkaline cells to suffer debilitating voltage droop. Rechargeables will chug away at ~1.2 volts till the bitter end.
    Last edited by StudFreeman; 02-14-2012 at 11:51 PM. Reason: Clarification

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    Nimh would be a problem if they were counting on alk voltage sag to limit current and therefore heat in a low mass body. Remember, Mag designs lights to be run on alks! That is their market. So many members criticize Mag for this and don't get it.
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    Default Re: New Mini Maglite Pro+ LED Flashlight

    Quote Originally Posted by StudFreeman View Post
    Eneloops will be the best option for the Mini Mag Pro lights. As LilKevin pointed out, this light will draw considerable current (for AA cells) on high mode, which will cause alkaline cells to suffer debilitating voltage droop. Rechargeables will chug away at ~1.2 volts till the bitter end.
    Thanks, Stud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betweenrides View Post
    Thanks, Stud.

    And I can honestly say that that phrase has never come out of my mouth before....
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    Debilitating voltage droop is nothing to sneeze at. Symptoms include lack of energy, depressed voltage, inability to deliver current on demand, and, if alone for a very, very long time, even .

    Make sure to eat plenty of vegetables, exercise lights daily, and always, always stick with Eneloops or "AA" lithium primary cells.

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    nice.
    i have not saw those are these on the market?
    where do i buy one?

    thx
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    It's great to see Maglite getting current on emitters and output. 245 ANSI lumens is a lot and we were all freakin' out when we broke the 200 OTF barrier not long ago. Finally your average joe can get some decent output from a small form factor at big box stores. I also love how Maglite finds a way to keep the costs very reasonable and still they are made in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PUNISHER View Post
    nice.
    i have not saw those are these on the market?
    where do i buy one?

    thx
    I ordered two of them from these guys and I'll get them Friday!
    http://www.zbattery.com/Maglite-2AA-...ashlight-Black

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE PUNISHER View Post
    nice.
    i have not saw those are these on the market?
    where do i buy one?

    thx
    Have not seen in retail stores yet, but according to Maglite support, Gander Mtn in US will be one of the first. For now only online availability. This thread mentions a few options - go to page 6-7.

    While typing this, my new Pro+ was delivered....

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