Jetbeam RRT-01

[gopajti]

New Jetbeam model, RRT-01



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RRT-01 photo
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

[TEEJ]

Is there an English version?

[CarpentryHero]

Looks a lot like the SWM M11r, Looks good

[scottyhazzard]

Nice, now what's the deal with thoseTM's?

[Draven451]

It will be nice to hear more about these new lights. Once Jetbeam and Nitecore make official announcements or reviewers release their opinions.

[gopajti]

official
http://www.jet-beam.com/links/pro/rrt01.aspx

[DM51]

This post had an incorrect time-stamp and appeared at the wrong place in the thread due to forum software issues (not the fault of the poster):

That looks very nice! I love the small size.

I wonder if the RRT-01 uses an XML. And what it's maximum output is. And whether that little silver thing at the very back is a button or if the only control is the rotator ring like on the M11R.

[flashflood]

official
http://www.jet-beam.com/links/pro/rrt01.aspx

Now that right there is very tempting. Anyone know whether it uses PWM, and if so, at what frequency?

[Fireclaw18]

official
http://www.jet-beam.com/links/pro/rrt01.aspx

Interesting.

Looks like the only control is the rotator ring like the M11r. You can see in the picture that the post in the back of the tailcap is actually the keychain attachment point. It has a hole through it. 500 lumens with an XML-T6.

I wonder how this compares in size to the V11r. the V11R does have a tailcap button so is probably a bit bigger.

One thing that's nice: unlike the Sunwayman lights, the RRT-01 has reverse polarity protection. I damaged my V10r by putting the battery in the wrong way.

[koolranch]

I love it! How much and when can we buy it.


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[dlmorgan999]

I love it! How much and when can we buy it.

Yep - that's definitely the burning question! I already have the RRT-0, RRT-2 and RRT-15. Time to add another one to the family.

[peterharvey73]

Nice...

[iron potato]

JB RRT01 vs SWM M11R, which one would u pick & why ?

I really liking the Klarus XT1C dual switch design, but too bad it wont take RCR

[dlmorgan999]

I have both the V10R and the M11R. While I really like Sunwayman lights, I would choose the RRT-01 over the M11R purely for the infinitely variable output.

Choosing between the RRT-01 and the V10R on the other hand would be much more difficult, but I would probably go for the V10R due to the tailswitch that would allow me to turn the light on to a pre-selected level.

[iron potato]

I have both the V10R and the M11R. While I really like Sunwayman lights, I would choose the RRT-01 over the M11R purely for the infinitely variable output.

Choosing between the RRT-01 and the V10R on the other hand would be much more difficult, but I would probably go for the V10R due to the tailswitch that would allow me to turn the light on to a pre-selected level.

Hey Morgan, how is the beamshot between V10R & M11R ? Is it confusing to activate strobe mode on M11R ?

[Torchaddict]

I have both the V10R and the M11R. While I really like Sunwayman lights, I would choose the RRT-01 over the M11R purely for the infinitely variable output.

Choosing between the RRT-01 and the V10R on the other hand would be much more difficult, but I would probably go for the V10R due to the tailswitch that would allow me to turn the light on to a pre-selected level.

I too, would choose the RRT-01 over the M11R. It has a better looking "McGizmo" clip, better (rotating?) keychain attachment, chrome/silver bezel, and infinite variable... And no cons that I can see.

[dlmorgan999]

Hey Morgan, how is the beamshot between V10R & M11R ? Is it confusing to activate strobe mode on M11R ?

I'm still a relative newbie (only got the flash-a-holic bug in late January) and as such I haven't really paid a lot of attention to beamshots - yet.

Also, I should have been more precise in my response. I have a V10A right now. I have a V10R Ti+ on order but both of those are XM-L (as is the M11R) and the original V10R is XP-G. As such, the M11R *should be* more floody than the V10R.

I don't really have a use for strobe and I can't remember right now exactly how to activate it. I'm sure others will chime in though!

[Fireclaw18]

Yes the RRT-01 and V11R seem to be very similar. Main differences:

1. RRT-01 looks like it has a smooth reflector at least from the screenshots. This may result in a very ugly beam. Not good for a short-range light. Presumably the V11R has an orange peal reflector like the V10R
2. RRT-01 might be more expensive than V11R. Unknown what V11R's price will be, but comparing the V10R to the RRT-0 sees a considerable price difference.
3. RRT-01 looks like it might have an SOS mode, while the V11R's interface lacks it.
4. RRT-01 has mechanical reverse polarity protection while the V11R presumably does not.
5. RRT-01 Might have slightly shorter battery life. Assuming similar driver efficiency and same light output, but with RRT-01 running at higher drive current due to its less efficient T6 emitter compared to the V11R's U2 emitter.
6. V11R has a tailswitch.
7. RRT-01 has a better clip, and a a stainless steel bezel.
8. RRT-01 will be out earlier than the V11R, even if only by a few weeks.

[dlmorgan999]

Is it confusing to activate strobe mode on M11R ?

I played with this tonight and I have the answer. The strobe is very easy to activate. You rotate the ring all the way to the right (to the highest level). Then you quickly rotate left one level and back to the right and the strobe activates. To disable the strobe you just rotate one left one level again.

[bigchelis]

Does anybody know what the Tailcap does?

I see in pictures it has a taicap with loop in it, but does it offer momentary on/off like a Peak LED light?


Thanks,
bigC

[iron potato]

I played with this tonight and I have the answer. The strobe is very easy to activate. You rotate the ring all the way to the right (to the highest level). Then you quickly rotate left one level and back to the right and the strobe activates. To disable the strobe you just rotate one left one level again.

Ahh, how nice now I couldn't decides which one to pick, M11R U2 or M10R T6...

[gopajti]

[Patriot]

My goodness, that's a dramatic difference in output! Thanks for sharing the JIF's!

[TEEJ]

I played with this tonight and I have the answer. The strobe is very easy to activate.

1) You rotate the ring all the way to the right (to the highest level).

2) Then you quickly rotate left one level

3) and back to the right,

and the strobe activates.



To disable the strobe you just rotate one left one level again.

You've GOT to be KIDDING? That's EASY?



If you NEED the strobe...do you REALLY think it will be easy to engage under pressure?

How about pressing one button or something? - THAT'S easy.


Step 1) is not too too bad, but step 2) means you could easily OVERSHOOT the detent you wanted while facing a situation you thought you needed the strobe FOR...and its the WORST UI choice in this case...and step 3) might be doable as at least you might not over shoot if there's a stop there....but by the time you DO all that twisting, with both hands of course...the situation has progressed without you.

[dlmorgan999]

All valid points. Since I'm never in a "tactical" situation, I guess I don't have the right mindset. . I guess "easy" would be something more like that Klarus XT11.

[kkeyser]

You've GOT to be KIDDING? That's EASY?



If you NEED the strobe...do you REALLY think it will be easy to engage under pressure?

...the situation has progressed without you.

If you are in some kind of life or death situation that a flashlight will be able to get you out of, and it requires split second reactions...then you aren't in a situation.

It's a flashlight, not a firearm or knife. If you need the strobe to get somebody's attention or whatever, a second or two isn't going to make a difference, and on the off chance it does, simply turning on the flashlight and waving it will get you a similar effect.

The strobe/sos isn't going to stun an attacker or anything life-savey like that.

But discussing strobe/sos is like discussing religion/politics, those who 'believe' will never be convinced that the strobe/sos function won't save their life someday, and those who don't just want the 'believers' to keep it to themselves, lol.

[Joe Talmadge]

Yes the RRT-01 and V11R seem to be very similar. Main differences:

1. RRT-01 looks like it has a smooth reflector at least from the screenshots. This may result in a very ugly beam. Not good for a short-range light. Presumably the V11R has an orange peal reflector like the V10R
2. RRT-01 might be more expensive than V11R. Unknown what V11R's price will be, but comparing the V10R to the RRT-0 sees a considerable price difference.
3. RRT-01 looks like it might have an SOS mode, while the V11R's interface lacks it.
4. RRT-01 has mechanical reverse polarity protection while the V11R presumably does not.
5. RRT-01 Might have slightly shorter battery life. Assuming similar driver efficiency and same light output, but with RRT-01 running at higher drive current due to its less efficient T6 emitter compared to the V11R's U2 emitter.
6. V11R has a tailswitch.
7. RRT-01 has a better clip, and a a stainless steel bezel.
8. RRT-01 will be out earlier than the V11R, even if only by a few weeks.

That's a good list... Two of the really big questions for me are:
- Jetbeam's variable control seems to usually go linear output, Sunwayman has a non-linear output. I've strongly preferred the Sunwayman algorithm... has Jetbeam changed to non-linear, so the entire range of control is useful? If not, I'd come right out of the gate *strongly* favoring the sunwayman.

- Runtime of both lights on low? Maybe it's already in the published specs, I'll look...

[koolranch]

I just saw the specs and price. The runtime on high is only 20 minutes. That's terrible. Because of that and the price I'm out.


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[Warmlite]

The 20 min runtime on high doesn't bother me at all... I like options. I would love to be able to blast 500 lumens if need be from a sing 123 light. Then if i want longer runtimes i can just turn the light down to ~200 lumens, which is the high mode on most of my single 123 lights, and get similar (~1hr) runtimes as my other lights. Can't wait for someone to confirm some runtimes : )

[TEEJ]

If you are in some kind of life or death situation that a flashlight will be able to get you out of, and it requires split second reactions...then you aren't in a situation.

It's a flashlight, not a firearm or knife. If you need the strobe to get somebody's attention or whatever, a second or two isn't going to make a difference, and on the off chance it does, simply turning on the flashlight and waving it will get you a similar effect.

The strobe/sos isn't going to stun an attacker or anything life-savey like that.

But discussing strobe/sos is like discussing religion/politics, those who 'believe' will never be convinced that the strobe/sos function won't save their life someday, and those who don't just want the 'believers' to keep it to themselves, lol.

It comes down to understanding why and how you'd actually use the strobe. You are correct in that its not a weapon, and incorrect in not understanding what it IS. Think of it as a particular sized wrench for a mechanic...it will not always be what is reached for for all bolts...but for SOME bolts, it is the right wrench. For the other bolts, there will be better choices.

A UI that makes something you would need to access quickly for it to be of use...take a long time and/or a complicated series of steps to use, would be akin to that wrench being meant for teeny bolt heads, but have a 6' long handle instead of a 6" long handle....you have the right size, but you can't fit the damn thing under the hood, etc.






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