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    Quote Originally Posted by r-ice View Post
    Anyone know how is the ec2 vs the maelstrom g5 in throw??
    They are not in the same class really.
    The EC2 is an EDC pocket thrower, while the G5 is not.


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    25mm bezel width
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    6500 lux


    I would much rather have the EC2.
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    Yah lol I was wondering if I should replace my g5 guess not but I may pick up one of the other ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r-ice View Post
    Yah lol I was wondering if I should replace my g5 guess not but I may pick up one of the other ones.
    The EC1 and EC2 have the same throw, lumens, and lux.
    Except the EC1 is 65mm and the EC2 is 99mm.
    But the EC2 with 18650 will crush the runtime of the EC1.

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    Can't say I'm a fan of 123 batteries so most likely it'll be the ea1 just the blinky light might not be good for best carry
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    Quote Originally Posted by r-ice View Post
    Can't say I'm a fan of 123 batteries so most likely it'll be the ea1 just the blinky light might not be good for best carry
    Hold the OFF button for 2 seconds and blinking stops.

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    I ordered the EC1 on Sunday and it arrived today while I was at work. I swapped the RCR123 from my Novatac into the EC1. Initially, I thought the series looked very ugly but the looks of EC1/EC2 grew on me. I guess it's because the body isn't too long nor to skinny compared to the size of the head.

    Output on the RCR123 is bright, and it throws very well for it's size due to it's deep reflector. Of course, this has already been said by others but it is true of mine as well . The red led acts nicely for a beacon and as a lower output, secondary led.

    Unfortunately, I think mine has a problem. When I got home I put in a primary cell to check out the lower output. The lower output appears to be all I can access. Pressing the mode button to cycle through the outputs causes a brief and ever so slight jump in output before it drops back down. Even a press and hold of the mode button while the light is on to put it into turbo has no effect. Strobe and S.O.S. work but dimly. The red beacon and constant on work fine. The primary cell itself is at 3.04v, and when I lock the light out electronically the EC1 flashes 3 times to signify 3 volts.

    Anyone else experience this? Looks like this one may have to go back.
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    Where did you take the photos?
    Wanna know more about TM15 and TM20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dajabec View Post
    Ordered an EC1 yesterday.
    Is the sticker really the switch, or is it just a covering for the switch?
    Can I print off my own stickers and make custom buttons for my switch?
    It's not really a sticker.
    It more like a thin piece of flexible plastic.
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    I received my AA and cr powered nitecores on Wednesday. Going gear is super awesome on their shipping I guess they're open on weekends. My lights were sent on a Sunday so I was very excited to hear that they'd arrive early. Thanks going gear! But on to my issue. I saw that it was mentioned that the explorer lights heat up and in fact both of mine also have this issue. Surprisingly in my situation it only seems to happen when the red light is left on. Saddened because the red light seems to be perfect in its output and would be awesome to use as a night light etc. haven't really tested the other output levels but from my current usage there seems no real issue with excessive heat from the other output modes. I would love more feedback on this possible issue. It kind of leaves me on the fence on whether to send them back or not. Thanks for any feedback or help
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    i think i was the first to mention the heat issue with the red led and the higher levels.i am still dissapointed,it think otherwise these would be real nice lights.but for a sub 1 lumen led to heat up a light that much,,well its unacceptable.hope they work the bugs out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by importculture View Post
    I received my AA and cr powered nitecores on Wednesday. Going gear is super awesome on their shipping I guess they're open on weekends. My lights were sent on a Sunday so I was very excited to hear that they'd arrive early. Thanks going gear! But on to my issue. I saw that it was mentioned that the explorer lights heat up and in fact both of mine also have this issue. Surprisingly in my situation it only seems to happen when the red light is left on. Saddened because the red light seems to be perfect in its output and would be awesome to use as a night light etc. haven't really tested the other output levels but from my current usage there seems no real issue with excessive heat from the other output modes. I would love more feedback on this possible issue. It kind of leaves me on the fence on whether to send them back or not. Thanks for any feedback or help
    I have the EC1, just got it today. No problem with mine heating up. It gets a little warn on high and turbo, but not worse than my other powerful small lights. Pretty neat little guy.

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    I've been playing with my EA1 now for a couple days and love it. I'm not experiencing any heat issues. The locater and battery indicator is fantastic. I also find the red LED is the perfect amount of light for a night light.
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    Maybe some heat issues could be battery related.
    If the battery is old, cheap, or been run down too much, or I don't know.
    The battery itself may be heating up more than the light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by importculture View Post
    I received my AA and CR powered Nitecores on Wednesday.
    In my situation it only seems to happen when the red light is left on.
    From my current usage there seems no real issue with excessive heat from the other output modes.
    On the EA1, are you using a 1.5v alkaline, nihm, lithium, or a 4.2v Li-Ion 14500 ?
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    Is the red light bright enough to navigate around a very dark house with night adjusted eyes?
    Always look on the bright side of life

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    Is the red light bright enough to navigate around a very dark house with night adjusted eyes?
    Yes, it does it for me easily.
    But that's what it's for.

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    Is there a way of stopping the red led from blinking other then unscrewing the tail cap?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidMB View Post
    Is there a way of stopping the red led from blinking other then unscrewing the tail cap?
    You can also use the electronic lockout. While the light is on hold the power button in until the light flashes and turns off. Shortly after, the red led will flash giving the battery voltage and then the light will be locked out. While in electronic lockout the red led will not flash after giving the battery voltage. You have to press and hold the power button for a couple to a few seconds to bring it out of lockout, so you are protected against an accidental quick press.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidMB View Post
    Is there a way of stopping the red led from blinking other then unscrewing the tail cap?
    When the main emitter is on, hold down on the power button. It will go into standby until you hod the power button again.

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    how accessible is the emitter to do a swap? does that silver trim ring unscrew to gain access to the emitter from the front or will the whole pill have to be removed from the back, if that is even possible?

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    I don't think it's a battery issue, at least I hope not. My cr explorer is using a new surefire cr123 but the AA light is using a new alkaline but I can test it using an eneloop and lithium energizer. Ha ha good excuse to use the light tonight. But I don't think it will make much of a difference since both lights heat up when using the red led. I'm more than willing to try whatever I can to remedy the problem instead of sending it back. Thanks for your input I appreciate it
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    Quote Originally Posted by importculture View Post
    I don't think it's a battery issue, at least I hope not. My cr explorer is using a new surefire cr123 but the AA light is using a new alkaline but I can test it using an eneloop and lithium energizer. Ha ha good excuse to use the light tonight. But I don't think it will make much of a difference since both lights heat up when using the red led. I'm more than willing to try whatever I can to remedy the problem instead of sending it back. Thanks for your input I appreciate it
    If you can test both lights across different battery chemistries/manufacturers/charge states and heating still persists, it's most likely the result of a freak driver issue. There's no way that a 3mm red LED draws a significant current (over, say, 20mA) and still stays lit up. Nothing you can do really, except to return the lights.

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    Thanks for your suggestions unfortunately aside from eneloops I only have and use primaries. I can definitely try various battery manufacturers although they're mostly limited to primaries and brands that I have on hand. The interesting part is the other output levels seem fine with high reaching tolerable heat levels. So I am leaning toward just keeping them and dealing with not being able to leave the red led on for a prolonged length of time. Thanks for all the input from everyone I really appreciate it
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    Well I have only just received two new EC1's just over an hour ago now, and I must say that I am not very impressed at all. After unpacking them and initially thinking that they looked so much nicer in real life and that I can't wait to try them out, I am now bitterly disappointed as they are both faulty and now need to be sent back. This situation is made even worse by the fact that I live in Australia and because they are not yet available here at all I had to purchase them from an authorised Nitecore dealer in the USA, and because it is now already dark here by the time that my wife gets home from work and then takes our two dogs for their nightly walk, and so for this reason I had wanted to get her one ASAP for her immediate use, and so I paid an extra $50 to have them both shipped over here by using USPS Express International. I had decided to ship them this way so that not only would my wife have one to use a lot sooner for her safety, but also because of the fact that they would be protected against any loss or damage sustained whilst in transit by the included USPS Express insurance cover, however now we are left in the position where not only will we now have to be without the lights for an extended period of time, but also the fact that the $50 we have already just spent on the expedited shipping may have just as very well been thrown in the rubbish bin, and even worse we are also now going to have to pay for them to be shipped back again for a warranty claim.

    When I had first decided to purchase these, just as I usually always do I had specifically decided against either buying a cheap inferior quality item or buying something for a considerably lesser price from one of the various possibly unauthorised internet sellers (you most probably all know which place that I am referring to), and so not only did I decide to buy a supposed good quality and so called "respected" brand, but I also even went one step further than this by only purchasing them from an authorised dealer, not that all of this has seemed to have done me any good. What I would now really like to know is what's up with Nitecore and the fact that it appears as though there is either very little or no quality control whatsoever, nor does there appear to be any period of reliability testing carried out on any of their new products prior to them actually releasing them for sale to the unsuspecting public.

    One of these lights only very partially works and the other one does not work at all, well just to be 100% accurate the red LED light is still able to be lit up on the otherwise totally non-functional light but that is the only thing that will work on it. The screws for the clip are also very loose and with no real way to effectively tighten them due to the fact that the clip totally covers the heads of the screws, and because of the extremely narrow size of the slots in it the only type of screwdriver that would fit in through them would only be a minuscule sized jewellers one which would then not be able to grip the philips screw heads properly due to the fact that it is about ten sizes too small for the intended job. It would then end up turning inside the slots and it would therefore most probably ruin the heads of the screws therefore making it impossible to either tighten or remove them at any future time.

    Also when I compare the two reflectors of each light to each other there is a rather large difference in between the quality of them, as one is both very nicely formed and virtually as shiny as a mirror and the other one is not. Both of the LED's are far from being centred however the one in the "ATNFL" (Almost Totally Non-Functional Light) is so extremely bad that if it was centred any worse the LED would be actually touching the reflector on one side. As to the exact problem that causes them to actually not function correctly, it appears that in the "PFL" (Partially Functional Light) that if it is fitted with any primary CR123 that measures 3 volts or under it will not work at all, and I have quadruple checked this by not only using several different brands of battery (Surefire, Energizer Lithium, Tenergy, Titanium Innovations and Eagle Tac) but I have also tested them first by using four different DMM's, yet all with the same end result of the "PFL" not functioning at all. It does appear to function whenever I either use a primary CR123 that has a reading of at least 3.2 volts or if I was to use a fully recharged RCR123 with a reading of 4.18 volts.


    I have also tried exactly the same thing with the "ATNFL" but it will not even work at all (except for the red LED that is) with any of the many different primary CR123's or rechargeable RCR123's that I have tried in it no matter how high their voltage was. I will also add that I have not even tried to contact the US dealer that I purchased them from yet because even though it is not their fault at all and I do not blame them for it in any way, I do know that even if I was to contact them that the chances are that I would most probably still have to pay for the rather high international shipping costs of returning both the lights, and just to leave an even far worse taste in my mouth we would also end up being without them for a very minimum of one month and much more likely even several months. I have since decided to contact the local distributor about it and he appears to be going above and beyond the call of duty and he has also been most helpful as due to the circumstances he has very kindly offered to contact the manufacturer on my behalf about all of the problems, and he has kindly offered that I may be able to quite possibly ship the lights to him directly thus saving me some further unnecessary costs, which is something that I truly do appreciate if in fact the situation does eventuate. Unfortunately for me and my wife this will still mean that we will be without them for a very extended amount of time!

    Overall this has not been a very uplifting experience to say the very least, as I had originally been quite excited and enthusiastic earlier this morning when I first knew that they were going to arrive, however any positive feelings that I had were VERY short lived and the whole thing has really sort of ruined my day to a certain degree. The worst part about all of this is that it could have all been so easily averted if the manufacturer in question had bothered to make certain that they were supplying the general public with a product that was fit to be used for it's intended purpose before it even left their doors however this appears not to have been done in any way shape or form, and actually getting a well made and fully functional light is much more akin to a "lucky dip", and because of this I will be extremely hesitant to ever purchase a Nitecore product (or their sister brands) ever again. I possess many many lights of different brands and different types and thankfully this sort of scenario doesn't seem to happen very often, touch wood. I also happen to own several very nice JETBeam's and as a matter of fact I even own a Nitecore TM11 however I am quite sure that I don't have to tell anyone about all the various problems that many people have had with this particular light as well.


    Also I would really like to apologise for my post being so long but I wanted to try and make absolutely certain that I had included all of the relevant details and that I was also being 100% factual whilst doing so, and I have mainly gone to all this trouble just to let people know what has happened so that hopefully others will be able to avoid being unnecessarily placed in to a similar most unfortunate situation. Lastly and most importantly I will just say that somebody definitely needs to get their act together!


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    Sad to hear that Phil, I hope this was an faulty early production batch and they'll be able to ship you a pair of perfect ones soon.
    I live in the Netherlands and getting certain lights is always an issue simply because there aren't authorized dealers for all manufacturers. There's a few stores around that do carry some of the major brands and they allow sending it back (for free even), so I tend to stick to those, especially with the more expensive lights.
    I posted my doubt about nitecore's new models in another thread since they also seem to have had major problems with the D11.2 and the EX11.2 (the latter to a lesser extent).

    Ironically one of my stores is a Nitecore dealer but only carries a few select models.

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