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    My shop isn't well positioned to handle lots of one off custom work. Semi-custom work falls more in line with how I operate. Here are some examples:

    McGizmo titanium pocket clip installed, sanitized bezel & body wide grooved on SWM V10R Ti:100A2725.jpg






    SWM V10R Ti with Haiku narrow pattern grooves, sanitized bezel & McGizmo pocket clip installed:



    Threading detail of drilled & tapped holes for McGizmo pocket clip:


    Stone wash with SWM etching left intact:






    SWM V10R Ti mod pricing:

    Haiku pattern grooves & remove all SWM body etching - $85

    Groove extender to match Haiku pattern - $25

    Bore body for either 17mm or 18mm cells - $84

    Bore extender (17mm or 18mm), de-hex extender & diameter match to body - $45

    Remove SWM bezel etching only - $25

    Drill & tap two holes #4-40 tpi for (McGizmo / Mac's / J. Hanko) pocket clip - $75 for machining + $35 cost of clip (you may also supply your own clip)
    (PLEASE note: titanium screws are tender & the hex recess is easily destroyed by ordinary Allen wrenches. McGizmo recommends the Thorpe/MIP driver & that's what I use. http://miponline.com/store/mip9001.html) I can also supply Ti Torx head screws which don't require a special tool.

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    Drill & tap on custom light bodies like McGizmo / Mac's / J. Hanko /etc. is $150 because of the additional risk involved. Drill & tap factory production lights is $75 for titanium or stainless, $50 for aluminum.

    Turn around time: My shop primarily provides trouble shooting, emergency repairs & fabrication to local area business owners. Flashlights are machined whenever the time is available, meaning that your light may not be machined for many weeks after arrival - some lights may wait here 30 days or longer before they are machined. Please don't send your light if you need it back by a date certain. Lights are machined in the order in which they arrive.
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    SureFire, LLC, which manufactures and sells Surefire flashlights is not associated in any way form or fashion with Precision Works. SureFire, LLC, does not sponsor, warrant, or endorse any Precision Works modifications. Modifications to Surefire flashlights will void the warranty. The use of the Surefire trademark is strictly for the purpose of identifying the host flashlight for the Precision Works modifications.
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    Default Re: Stone Washing (barrel tumbling) & Glass Bead Blasting

    Glass bead blasting & stone washing produce different results.

    Stone washing. The titanium or stainless item is placed in a barrel tumbler with the appropriate media & the media imparts a super fine burnished appearance. Since the surface is pre-scratched it hides new scratches really well.

    The media I prefer is ultra fine ceramic because it doesn't cause any rounding over of sharp edges or features. The down side of ultra fine media is long cycle time. Time varies based on the shapes & features of a particular light. For lights that have a number of small edges (think McGizmo Haiku) figure 24-72 hours in the barrel.



    Comparison of SunDrop without stone wash (on left) & after stone wash:




    Pricing:

    Small parts - pocket clips, bezels, etc. are $10 each with a $50 minimum charge.

    Titanium Knife scales - $25 per scale

    Titanium or Stainless Lights (either stone wash or hand applied patina crosshatch)

    Keychain size - $50

    Single cell (1x123) are $50 each

    Two cell (2x123) are $70 each.

    Price covers light with all attachments (body, head, bezel, clip, etc.) Please disassemble your light before sending if you are able to. The head can only be tumbled if the light engine is removed.

    Glass bead blasting. Single cell lights are $40 each.

    Two cell lights are $50 each.

    Price covers light with all attachments (body, head, bezel, clip, etc.) Please disassemble your light before sending if you are able to. The head can often be blasted with the light engine in place.
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    [/U][/I][/COLOR]Titanium-6-4 custom machined beads. Each bead is machined to order with choices of diameter/length/grooving/color/etc.

    Shown below are 1/2" diameter with lengths from from 3/4" to 1"


    Lantern bead below is 5/8" diameter by 1" long & is drilled for four 2x12mm vials. Size is slightly larger than the three beads shown above:


    Titanium lanyard beads are machined one at a time from solid bar 6AL-4V Titanium, the same alloy used in aerospace & defense applications. Because these beads are not made on a CNC machine there will be slight variations on each one. Titanium has great strength & is highly corrosion resistant. Beads can be left in the natural finish (shown in the middle of the photo) or can be heat anodized. No two beads ever heat anodize exactly the same since this process is done by hand using a propane torch to heat the titanium to the desired color range.

    Prices start at $40, please request a quote for exactly what you want. These make great gifts for friends & family with both lights & knives or for use as a zipper pull.
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    Hope I am posting this in the right thread. My new Sunwayman V10r Ti+ just arrived in the mail yesterday. Love the light and I was excited about the integrated clip on this new model only to find out that the integrated clip isn't much better then the one that came with the V10r Ti. I like the look of the titanium cover on the switch but was again disappointed when I discovered that it doesn't work very well. The titanium cover rubs against the side of the light if you don't push the button straight down. However, I am very fortunate to live close to precisionworks and I took the light over to him today to check out. He worked some of his magic on the switch and made it easier to use. I told him if I keep the light I will have him add a titanium clip to it and maybe one of his grip mods. Thanks Barry!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENKING View Post
    ... I am very fortunate to live close to PrecisionWorks and I took the light over to him today to check out. He worked some of his magic on the switch and made it easier to use. I told him if I keep the light I will have him add a titanium clip to it and maybe one of his grip mods. Thanks Barry!!!
    You're certainly welcome

    BENKING's switch cap was removed & polised on a powered buffing wheel. The sides of the cap came up to a mirror finish in just a few minutes. Action is better.

    Will Quiles is looking into making Delrin retainer rings. Combine that with a polished cap & the feel should be silky smooth.
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    Barry,

    When you get around to working on my V10r, please use the new finishing method to remove the logo section - I like it a lot. It looks cleaner and suits the light better I feel.

    Remember though that my 'grips' are different in that they are evenly spaced (no large gaps between the end grips and the 3 central grips). If need be I can resend the email where I explained it. Or was that in a thread? Gah! I can't remember :-(

    - Matt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattaus View Post
    Barry,

    When you get around to working on my V10r, please use the new finishing method to remove the logo section - I like it a lot. It looks cleaner and suits the light better I feel.

    Remember though that my 'grips' are different in that they are evenly spaced (no large gaps between the end grips and the 3 central grips). If need be I can resend the email where I explained it. Or was that in a thread? Gah! I can't remember :-(

    - Matt
    Your V10R should go on the lathe tomorrow, it's the last collet chuck job that gets done. Then the jawed chuck is installed & a few lights get bored, including your C2. That finishes all the pending lathe work. Then off to the mill for trits (yours & other members)
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    Quote Originally Posted by precisionworks View Post
    Your V10R should go on the lathe tomorrow, it's the last collet chuck job that gets done. Then the jawed chuck is installed & a few lights get bored, including your C2. That finishes all the pending lathe work. Then off to the mill for trits (yours & other members)
    Oh cool! I didn't realize you were so close lol. You appear to have been very busy with other work since your thread was moved. Ironic is not the term....but it's something lol.
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    One of my long time industrial customers is growing rapidly & they've kept me busy with project work. Almost no machine shop jobs got finished (or even started) during the past three to four weeks. Still a few pending items at their factory but planning to get most of the boring & trit work done before something else comes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattaus View Post
    my 'grips' are different in that they are evenly spaced (no large gaps between the end grips and the 3 central grips).
    Looked in the email section & found nothing ... but did find this in the old boring thread:



    Since it's now 0300 in Brisbane, your V10R will be done before you wake up

    Photos of new style grooving to follow. This should look really good.
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    Here's a before image:



    And a few after the Ultra groove mod:





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    etc...

    Barry, you pulled it off perfectly and it looks fantastic!!! What do you think of how the even grips have turned out?

    Part of me wishes I had coughed up the dough for the Ti version, but I like to tinker a lot so I won't feel as bad modifying this light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mattaus View Post
    etc...

    ... you pulled it off perfectly and it looks fantastic!!! What do you think of how the even grips have turned out?
    I'm glad that you're pleased with the outcome. I like the way it looks & feels but I also like the asymmetrical spacing of the "old" mod. The CPF solution, as always, is to have one of each

    If you look closely at the image below you'll see that five of the grooves are cut to maximum depth (minimum safe wall thickness). The groove on the far right is left as it came from the factory because the retaining ring threads are located right under that area.



    Part of me wishes I had coughed up the dough for the Ti version ...
    You'll like the Al version. Lighter & half the cost of Ti plus it still has the old style rubber boot switch.
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    I hadn't noticed that raised section - but it not only serves a purpose but isn't even noticeable unless pointed out (to my untrained eyes anyway). Looks fine to me.

    Quick question - do those 2 holes in the tail shroud match up with the McGizmo clips? Or are separate holes drilled and tapped for them? The existing holes look too separated to be useful for the Gizmo. I will go back and find some pics of one's you have installed in the past. I recall purchasing a clip through you....am I imagining this lol?

    I'm a bit lost with all the lights and parts I bought since the turn of the year. They're slowly trickling in but I'm getting stuff that I honestly can't remember purchasing! That been said the stuff I forget about is normally the cheap Chinese modding parts, not Titanium clips and whole lights!!!

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    Spacing for the McG clip holes is between the existing tail shroud holes. Steve Ku Is bringing 1 out That does use the existing holes.
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    Worked on a V10R Ti extender. First op is turning down the hex:



    Hex is taken down not quite all the way, leaving the surface just a tiny bit high to allow for final finishing. The step that's left is about .0015" (.038mm) higher than the finished surface.



    Next step is drilling open the inside which provides a hole large enough for the boring bar:



    Ti-6-4 is one of my favorite materials to bore. The chips form nicely & come out of the bore in one continuous curl. They are razor sharp, something I forget now & then



    Bore is finished & sized for a 17mm cell:



    The part is gripped on the inside using an internal expanding collet. This allows full access to the outside for finish machining.





    The owner did not want grooves so this part is done
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    Thanks Barry...looks perfect!!!

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    Hello precisionworks -

    Just put my V10R Ti Extender tube in the mail to have a repeat of what you did for Barbarian-X. 17 mm cell bore plus remove the outside hex down to a smooth cylinder. Paypal incoming.

    Thanks for offering these services!

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    PayPal received - thanks for the prepayment

    Some members may not have seen the cost for this mod so here's the breakdown:

    Bore for 17mm - $20.00

    Turn down hex
    & remove markings (if present) - $20.00

    Machine three grooves
    to match the three grooves in the head fin - $20.00


    Please add return shipping cost (USPS Priority Mail with tracking):

    USA - $6.00

    International - please request a price quote. The United States Postal Service changes international pricing frequently.

    Turn around time varies but 3-4 weeks is a pretty safe number most of the time. If the collet chuck is already mounted on the lathe (meaning that the lathe isn't being used for some other work) a job like the V10R extender will sometimes get done more quickly.

    Please click the link below to email through my website as PM's are disabled. There's a PayPal button on the website's contact page or you may send a check or money order with your parts.
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    Additional payment sent for return shipping which I had previously forgotten. Also thanks for the heads up on the grooves option but I think I will pass on that. Having the matching grooves is a great option but my thinking is I would like the extender to remain low profile rather than drawing attention to itself with the repeated pattern. I'm sure it would look great either way but I'm going for simple.


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    Additional payment sent for return shipping ...
    Thank you very much


    A V10R was groove modded earlier this week & I really liked the result:



    Then the owner contacted me & said that wasn't quite what he wanted

    He asked that the ridges be turned down so that they were the same height as those on a McG Haiku because a cigar grip is the primary way he holds the light. Back to the lathe this morning ... modded V10R on left, stock Haiku on right:





    A major mechanical difference in these two lights is the diameter of the tail shroud:



    The reason for the little step at the tail of the V10R is that the retaining ring internal threads start just a few mm farther back, exactly even with the major diameter of the tail. No way that I can see to eliminate that step.

    All in all the result turned out nicely:

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    I sent a V10R Ti to Barry for etching removal and a groove mod. The light came back yesterday, and the changes made are a major improvement in this fine light. The feel and grip in the hand are quite different than before, and much better. This change is not merely cosmetic but very practical. Visually, too, the modded grooves seem more harmonious with the rest of the light. The V10R has a great UI. Now, with improved feel and structure, it will be all the more enjoyable to use. Thank you, Barry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutpool View Post
    I sent a V10R Ti to Barry for etching removal and a groove mod. The light came back yesterday, and the changes made are a major improvement in this fine light. The feel and grip in the hand are quite different than before, and much better. This change is not merely cosmetic but very practical. Visually, too, the modded grooves seem more harmonious with the rest of the light. The V10R has a great UI. Now, with improved feel and structure, it will be all the more enjoyable to use. Thank you, Barry!
    Thank you for your kind words, Bob. I totally agree about the improved feel & grip - my first impression on taking a V10R out of the carton was "this thing feels like a brick"

    Some of us are fortunate enough to use McGizmo lights on a regular basis & IMO those lights set the standard for ergonomic design. The V10R will never be a McG but at least it can be made to feel better & be easier to grip.

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    The last light on the lathe got me thinking more about groove designs so I purchased another V10R Ti on eBay. Instead of machining it like the first image below I'm considering something more like the second image:





    The orange rectangles show where the ridges will remain & the space between them will be machined away. Never certain how these projects will come out but photos will be posted ... if it looks good

    Another thought is clip attachment. I've drilled & tapped enough titanium to know that I'd just as soon not do that again. Titanium can be silver brazed using traditional high silver content brazing rod & high temperature flux. I'll experiment with silver brazing a McG pocket clip on the light & report on how that works. Silver braze is a widely used procedure for joining titanium tubing in heat exchangers so it should work in this application.
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    Nice work Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by wquiles View Post
    Nice work Barry

    Will
    Thanks, Will

    Some readers may not be aware that Will is heavily involved in developing solutions for the switch problems with the V10R Ti+ model. The Ti+ uses a titanium switch cap while the Ti- (had to call it something) uses a rubber boot. The titanium switch cap grinds against the titanium retainer ring & causes a rough feeling switch action. Will is now offering both replacement switch caps & retainer rings made from Delrin that is precision machined. Every one who is using the Delrin items is very satisfied. More info in his thread on Custom B/S/T.
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    Here's a different design for a cren bezel. The owner wanted 6 crens & also wanted the sharp edge features slightly melted. After the metal was cut away on the milling machine the bezel was hand finished to ease the edges and blend the texture.





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    That looks "really" nice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by precisionworks View Post
    Here's a different design for a cren bezel. The owner wanted 6 crens & also wanted the sharp edge features slightly melted. After the metal was cut away on the milling machine the bezel was hand finished to ease the edges and blend the texture.

    How can you not love that!

    I could hardly wait to get it in my hands before the bezel treatment - now it's like...
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    Thanks Will

    My wife normally rolls her eyes when I ask here to look at yet another image. This time she liked it. I nearly fainted
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    Quote Originally Posted by precisionworks View Post


    The orange rectangles show where the ridges will remain & the space between them will be machined away. Never certain how these projects will come out but photos will be posted ... if it looks good
    Have you had a chance to try this mod out yet? I am getting itchy fingers and am seriously thinking about buying one of these lights to get modded to meutral led and some sort of grooves. Is there enough meat in the body and extender to bore to 18mm (will allow the use of 18500 and 18350 if the body is long enough).

    Cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by ^^Nova^^ View Post
    Have you had a chance to try this mod out yet?
    Interesting that you ask since my second V10R Ti- arrived today. Once all the customer work is done it will get grooved as in the highlighted image.

    Is there enough meat in the body and extender to bore to 18mm (will allow the use of 18500 and 18350 if the body is long enough).
    The V10R Ti has an O-ring groove that measures identical to the Surefire E-series. Since Ti is roughly 2X stronger than Al the light should work well when bored for 18mm cells. Think of an E1E or E1L on steroids

    Price to bore the body for either 17mm or 18mm cells is $60. Boring the extender is $20.
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