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    Default What has replaced P7's?

    Hi all.
    I spent a lot of time delving into the world of LED flashlight mods a couple of years back, then life got really busy.
    I'd like to get back into it again now.

    Back then P7's seemed to rule the roost for maglite mods.

    When I look around the forums now, it seems not so much. From what I can see, the Cree XM-L seems to be the standard now. I also see other Cree options, but I get lost in the model numbers.

    So yes, I have searched the forums, but can someone please help me get up to speed again:

    - is the P7 superseded for high lumen maglite mods?

    - if so, what's the current state of the art? XM-L, SST-90?

    - does the XM-L have to be driven beyond specs to get the high lumen outputs?

    Thanks in advance people

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    Default Re: What has replaced P7's?

    The XM-L has pretty much replaced the P7. You can easily drive it at 3A and get up to 1000 lumens. The SST-90 can give you more output (2500 lumens) at up to 9A. Some people are using multiple XM-L's in lights to get tons of output.

    http://flashlightwiki.com/Brightness_Bins

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    Default Re: What has replaced P7's?

    I've also over-driven the XM-L and as long as you keep really good heat sinking, they're safe up to about 4 amps using a well heatsinked star mounted XM-L. Continuous use at 5 amps or more will burn the phosphor around the traces though. But my best guess would be if you get 1000 lumens at 3 amps you might get 1200 at 4 amps and corroborated using a ceiling bounce and light meter, that's extrapolating from Cree's data sheet for the T6 bin too. It's slightly brighter if you compare them side by side from 3 amps to 4 amps so my guess 1200 lumen guess would be in the ballpark.

    But in all respects but one the XM-L bests the P7. The one caveat is color, everyone here will tell you that in a reflectored light the XM-L will make a noticeably yellow hotspot with a blueish spill. It has a weird color distribution. The P7 lights I've had always had a pleasing creamy white tint that was even across the beam.

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    Thanks for this people. It's nice to be up to speed again.

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