Will any of the AW brand batteries fit?
Will any of the AW brand batteries fit?
Here's one thread to look at:
H600 owners... battery issues? Help me out here.
Last edited by varuscelli; 04-14-2012 at 11:16 AM.
Thank you! I love this forum. Friendly folks willing to help teach new guys.
You're welcome, Outlander.
Varuscelli, thanks for the thread and beam shots! Looks like a very nice light. I personally prefer the diffused models over the regular ones. I got some DC fix to use with my H51w last summer as I thought I'd want to be able to go back and forth, but it turns out that I never have... So my next ZL is going to be a dedicated F model. And, I agree, it would be nice if they'd use a threaded bezel and offer some optional filters. They could even do it with the fully potted construction they have. But, whatever.
As nice as this one seems, I'm going to hold off. I'm happy so far with my H51w and ST5-190nw. I still have an ST6-460nw on my wish list for use on my helmet for biking, although I suppose an H600Fw would make a good handlebar light though too!
What? Me? Derail a thread?
I think one of the great features of the H600F and H600Fw is the combined usefulness at close and mid range with such broadly effective diffusion, but it additionally has good overall distance range with the diffused light (great diffused range for a headlamp).
These two lamps are obviously going to be more useful than any other ZebraLight diffused model in terms of overall output when looking at how well they perform at a distance and how well they'll light things up at close to medium distances with sheer output.
When I look at using these at a distance and the terms I'd use to describe the quality of the output, I'm not sure if I'd use the term "throw" with them....but perhaps "reach" would be a better word (a matter of semantics, I guess). It's just that the diffusion doesn't allow for much throw in the vague hotspot area (at least, not compared to the non-diffused H600 or H600w).
As far as a bike handlebar light, I'm not sure that the distance performance of the H600F or Fw would be adequate. Perhaps for slow, casual night riding...but for anyone who rides with some speed, the superior throw of the H600 would make it a more likely candidate for a bike, I think. I'll have to try the H600Fw while riding and see.
Last edited by varuscelli; 04-16-2012 at 12:44 PM.
Just got the shipment in from Illumination Gear. Man they are fast. Of course it helps that I am living in the same state as they are. Put the light on the headband and tested the beamshot from 6ft way and was very happy that it lit up four 1 ft square tile very easily with generous spill. This is EXACTLY what I need for shrimping. I was worried about the offset center nature of the headlamp but I slid it as far as it could go into the headband and did not find the beam off center at all.
I read the flowchart that you linked to and program H2 to be 270lm since that is what I want to use most of the time. However, whenever I double click, it goes into 750lm and dropping down to 420lm after 3 minutes. Leaving the light on, I double click to send it to 270lm and then double clicking it again hoping it will go into 420 lm but again it goes into turbo mode(750lm) before dropping down to 420lm after 3 minutes. Is there anyway to get it to skip turbo mode after the light has been on for 3minutes. I want to cycle between 270lm and 420lm without going into 750lm for 3 minutes.
BTW, you can feel the housing of the zebralight heats up at 750lm but after it drops to 420lm, I turn it off, remove the battery and found it just warm and not hot like the housing.
The thought of using a 600Fw as a handlebar light was based on my usage pattern. I don't like to put a throwy light on my handlebar for distance; I prefer a throwy light on my helmet (I currently use my Jet III Pro ST), so I always have a good downrange beam where ever I look. I combine that with a floody light on my bars pointed low, so I get 10' - 15' of light directly in front of my bike where ever my front wheel is pointing. That set up works best for me personally. I also mounted one of my ZL brackets right under my visor, and for night riding I pop my H51w into it to use for off-bike light. I bought two of the Q123 HCRI lights last fall, and am going to experiment with mounting one on each side of my helmet instead of my little ZL. I get bad tunnel vision with a very bright headlamp beam, and I have Meniere's Syndrome so poor peripheral vision can sometimes give me vertigo. I'm hoping that side mounting will reduce the tunnel vision problem as well. I really like the warm tint of the HCRI XPG's, and I'm hoping it'll look cooler too... Clone Trooper style!
Your description of the beam pattern is very appealing... sounds like it's a great light, and I'm sorely tempted... I'd certainly want to use it for camping and the like though, and I try to stick purely with AA format lights for that. Regardless, thanks very much for your reports and all the info. I've been on a SAK kick the last few months, but am getting the light bug again, and am feeling the need for something new, and preferably crazy-bright! Thanks again!
What? Me? Derail a thread?
Hey, B0wz3r -- I understand what you mean about your described use, and actually one of these might be a very good fit for you as a handlebar light. For putting out that broad swath of light just in front of the bike, it should work very well -- and if used with something else for throw on the helmet, as you describe, could make a really great combination. I want to test mine out that way, now that you've suggested it.
I thought there was a way to do what you want using that double-click programming to set the H2 to the next to highest setting (just under turbo) so that you could use that setting without having to use turbo. (And I'm talking about that seven double click method as shown in that flowchart by CPF member samgab you referenced...which I'm linking, below.)
Last edited by varuscelli; 04-18-2012 at 05:42 AM.
It won't work. I can set H2 to 420lm(after series of double clicks) and turn off the light. The next time I turn it on, it goes in to H2(420lm) automatically. Which is fine but a double click will send it to H1(750/420lm). Now if I set H2 to 270lm and then turn off the light, the next time it comes on, it goes in to H2(270lm) automatically and a double click sends it to H1 which of course is 750/420lm(420lm after three minutes). I can't easily switch between 270 and 420 lm but I can start the light off with lots of double clicks to get it to stay at 270lm then start shrimping. If I want to go 420lm then I can just double click. To get back to 270lm, I would double click(1-strobe, 2-170lm, 3-270lm). It will skip the turbo mode AS LONG AS I DO NOT TURN OFF THE LIGHT. Turning the light off would set the H2 to whatever lm setting I have and a double click would switch between that and 750lm/420lm turbo mode.
BTW I compare the beam shot to my 20 watts 24 degree and 20 watts 36 degree MR16 12 volt halogen lamp. At the 270lm the brightness is very comparable to the 36 degree MR16 but not quite as bright as the 24 degree BUT, believe it or not, the H600 spills a bit more than the 24 degree halogen beam. At 420lm, it easily outshines both MR16 20 watts halogen lamp. The Zebralight H600 does not throw no where as far as the Fenix HP11 but the range and brightness and hot spot of the H600 is perfect for shrimping. I can easily focus at the shrimp around my feet and easily search for shrimps 8-15ft away. With the Fenix HP11, I can't take quick glance like I could with the H600 since the beam is so concentrated. The H600 allows me to effortlessly scan the 180 degrees in front of me effortlessly since the hot spot and spill easily covers a 60 degree area. I don't have to scan for shrimp. They just pop up in the light.
I didn't purposely run it down to test run time but since each shrimping trip last 2-4 hours, I can easily find out if the the specs are correct. I am going to run it at 420lm and see when it starts to step down since I will be carrying a spare battery.
I'm quoting the following from another H600 thread (ZebraLight H600(w) XM-L 750 Lm).
Looks like several of the model H600Fw have a "loose" something or other in the head area. I suspect it's the reflector (but I don't know that for sure....just guessing). Mine is that way, too.
I'm expecting my replacement this weekend, so I'll let you know if the issue is resolved, for sure.
Vernon, what did they do -- send you the H600F instead of the H600Fw?
Hmmm. Maybe all the H600Fw have loose reflectors (or whatever the rattling noise is), so they didn't have a non-rattler to send you. In any case, it seems pretty odd that they'd send you the wrong lamp.
Got a reply today, and we're going to try this again. I should be getting a H600Fw over the next week!
Vernon, did they mention anything about the loose "thing" in the head and what it might be? I'm guessing not, but thought I'd ask.
Hi, Vernon. Just so that folks will know in this thread, you got your new replacement from Zebralight and no problems with it? Just making sure that a "non rattling" H600Fw was sent to you.
An update on my light (one of the rattlers). I returned it to ZL and asked them to exchange it for one that didn't rattle. I received the replacement a couple days ago. It's completely rattle free and has a lovely tint to boot, virtually no sign of that nasty greenish-yellow hotspot so common particularly on XM-L lights. It took awhile, but I finally got something I'm completely happy with.
I'm kind of bummed out right now about dealing with the loose thing in the head of my H600Fw. I contacted ZebraLight about it (the Irving Texas office -- I'm in the Houston Texas area). Apparently since I didn't discover the problem until I had the light over a certain amount of time (I think the cut-off must be 30 days), they've instructed me to return it to China for replacement.
Given that it takes at most 1 to 2 days to send something from Houston Texas to Irving Texas, it would seem to make much more sense for me to be able to send the light to the same address from which it was sent to me. If I actually have to go through sending it to China for replacement (given both the expense and time involved), I'm going to be a bit displeased by ZL customer service.
I sent them a note with my thoughts on this and it will be interesting to see what kind of response I get.
Yah- when/if I buy another Zebra I'm either buying off of B/S/T or through a vendor.
ie. GG or IG etc.
That's quite a relief. Spending less than $5 USD to insure and ship the lamp in for replacement (within my own state) beats the heck out of the thought of sending it to the opposite side of the world. Kudos to ZL in Irving for making this easy on me.
Last edited by varuscelli; 05-16-2012 at 12:14 PM.
Got my replacement back a couple of days ago. It works great and no "rattle" coming from it at all.
ZebraLight customer service even sent me a new box with extra parts in it (extra headband and silicon holder and a couple of spare o-rings).
I bought one of these for a 100km trailwalk event coming up. Loved it so much I bought two more for my team mates. Took them for walk tonight with my Mrs and found that we would run at 220Lm (H2) or 53Lm (M1) depending if we were leading or following - walking single file.
The spread is very nice - I can hold my head still and none of my peripheral vision is in darkness, with a barely noticeable hot-spot. No need to move my head to see where I'm going any more than I would in daylight. Granted, the throw is quite short, maybe 7-10m of decent lighting, but for trailWALKING it's perfect at 220Lm.
As a side note, after I ordered the first one, I wanted to order two more, but found the Zebralight website was showing 'back order'. I contacted customer support saying I was desperate to get two prior to my event and they found a couple extra in their factory to send straight away. Great stuff! (And no rattly heads in any of the three received).
Good post, Andres. I particularly like the description of use when doing the single file walking with the leader's lamp on a higher setting than those following. That makes a lot of sense both from the effective use of light and conservation of power/run time.
I just last week I received my new H600 Cree XM-L 750Lm Headlamp. Since I do my patrols now on my bicycle at my part time security gig I wanted to keep my hands free and utilizing a head lamp was the way to go. This light ROCKS! I never realized how quality made Zebralights are and now I know. Heard only good things about them and now I want a hand held flashlight to add to my collection. Too bad there isn't a pocket clip for the high output hand held lights as I would like to have that option. The head band for the H600 is comfortable and easily adjusted. I usually have a cap on so I have no problems with the light slipping down my head.