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    Keeppower 18650 3100mAh (Black)



    Official specifications:
    • 18650 3100mAh Protected Rechargeable Battery
    • Min Capacity: 2900mAh
    • Typical Capacity: 3100mAh
    • Normal Voltage: 3.6V
    • Quality Lithium Ion rechargeable cell
    • In Built Safety Circuitry
    • Maximum capacity and reliability
    • High Discharge Rate (Max 2C)
    • Protection Circuit (Against overcharge, over discharge, over current and short-circuit.)
    • 4.2 volts max voltage and 3.6-3.7 volts nominal voltage




    The cell used can be discharged down to 2.5 volt, in my test I only discharges to 2.8 volt, i.e. I do not measure the full capacity. But then, not all lights will be able to use the full capacity.









    Each chart has curves for two batteries, but these batteries are nearly identical in performance and the curves are on top of each other.















    Conclusion

    This battery uses a good cell, this secures many things:
    • The batteries does match in capacity, i.e. they can be used in series.
    • The battery is very safe.
    • The battery has the specified capacity.



    All in all a very good battery.



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    Keeppower is a OEM manufacturer, i.e. many of the batteries they produce is sold with other names on them.

    The batteries was supplied by Keeppower for review.

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    Where do you find them in online retail?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zer0ne View Post
    Where do you find them in online retail?
    I do not know, but I believe that there is a reason I was asked to test their batteries, i.e. keep looking, something will probably pop up soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKJ View Post
    I do not know, but I believe that there is a reason I was asked to test their batteries, i.e. keep looking, something will probably pop up soon.
    They are OEM maker.....I don't think they are interested in small quantity for hobbyist. Hopefully we can have more choices.

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    Do you have plans to test the Orbtronic 3100mAh 18650? It looks like the cheapest 3100mAh battery at $13.00 and free shipping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellokitty[hk] View Post
    Do you have plans to test the Orbtronic 3100mAh 18650? It looks like the cheapest 3100mAh battery at $13.00 and free shipping.
    Yes, Orbtronic will send some batteries to me (or maybe they already has).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKJ View Post
    Yes, Orbtronic will send some batteries to me (or maybe they already has).
    Please, post here when you make the review to the orbtronic. Thanks


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    I am now using the Orbtronic 3100, still on the first charge. No way to do a test on my end thou.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Changchung View Post
    Please, post here when you make the review to the orbtronic. Thanks
    I cannot promise that I remember this.
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    Thanks for the great review! I know many of us are in search of good pricing in batteries, but are fully prepared to pay the premium for "known quality and safety" and I don't disagree with that. But, these batteries seems like a great value and a contender with the known brands for quality and safety. Of course, being Panasonic based can't hurt. So I very recently ordered 2 pair of the Keeppower 3100mAh 18650's featured here.

    I googled them first and found another forum post stating that on ebay, find the seller asking $23 per pair (free shipping - but comes from China) and make offer of $21 per pair and the offer will be accepted. I did exactly that and am now just waiting. Should get mine between 6/12 and 6/18. That seller is doingoutdoor - is very high rated seller, so I don't feel like I took too much of a gamble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    Thanks for the great review! I know many of us are in search of good pricing in batteries, but are fully prepared to pay the premium for "known quality and safety" and I don't disagree with that. But, these batteries seems like a great value and a contender with the known brands for quality and safety. Of course, being Panasonic based can't hurt. So I very recently ordered 2 pair of the Keeppower 3100mAh 18650's featured here.

    I googled them first and found another forum post stating that on ebay, find the seller asking $23 per pair (free shipping - but comes from China) and make offer of $21 per pair and the offer will be accepted. I did exactly that and am now just waiting. Should get mine between 6/12 and 6/18. That seller is doingoutdoor - is very high rated seller, so I don't feel like I took too much of a gamble.
    thanks for the info bud! i'll have to grab some
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    Default Re: Test/Review of Keeppower 18650 3100mAh (Black)

    Quote Originally Posted by HKJ View Post
    Yes, Orbtronic will send some batteries to me (or maybe they already has).

    I bought 4 Orbtronics 2900mah 18650 batts per your review a few weeks ago, and I have not used them at all yet, as I already have other 18650's in my 18650 lights, but I assume they will be good.

    I will eventually try these too.
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    I just got 10 of these from the doingoutdoor seller on ebay I paid 85 But ended up having them send me a paypal invoice to get this price.
    They just got here this evening and I dont think you can beat the price for a heck of a deal on good batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedgar View Post
    I just got 10 of these from the doingoutdoor seller on ebay I paid 85 But ended up having them send me a paypal invoice to get this price.
    They just got here this evening and I dont think you can beat the price for a heck of a deal on good batteries.
    Just fyi
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    Very good deal. I snagged four for $40 total. Four cells that is, not pairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tobrien View Post
    Very good deal. I snagged four for $40 total. Four cells that is, not pairs.
    I thought about offering 20 per pair but chickened out - didn't want to delay it any longer than necessary - considering it's already coming from China. So heed this notice for further orders folks - offer 20 per pair if ordering 2 pair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    I thought about offering 20 per pair but chickened out - didn't want to delay it any longer than necessary - considering it's already coming from China. So heed this notice for further orders folks - offer 20 per pair if ordering 2 pair.
    you raise a good point, but i don't need it insanely urgently lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    I thought about offering 20 per pair but chickened out So heed this notice for further orders folks - offer 20 per pair if ordering 2 pair.
    I made a slightly lower bid, but I was happy paying $42 for 4, and they arrived in the UK in 10 days, registered shipping.

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    @ HKJ -

    What are the dimensions of these batteries?

    I've never owned 3100mAh 18650's yet, but I've read that they might have a problem actually fitting certain lights?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    @ HKJ -

    What are the dimensions of these batteries?
    HKJ's table at the start of the Test/Review shows the size (69.7mm x 18.8mm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubois View Post
    HKJ's table at the start of the Test/Review shows the size (69.7mm x 18.8mm).
    Whoops! It sure does. Time for my next eye exam.
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    Got my 2 pair of Keeppowers a few days ago and finally had time to complete the top off charge on one pair today. I don't recall my first volt reading, but I want to say they were at 3.68v upon arrival. I've only topped off one pair so far using an Xtar WP2 II. I had to interrupt the charge 2 or 3 times due to limited time and the need to snooze, etc. But I did check the voltage of the pair before resuming the charge each time and they were impressively exactly the same voltage as one another each time.

    When one battery completed the charge, the other was about 30 seconds behind when it completed. *They both read at 4.22v. I was a little surprised that they actually went over 4.2 at all, but if I understand it correctly, a +/- .05v is still safe. And these are the first 3100mAh batteries I've had and figured it was due in part to their larger capacity. This was also the first time I used the Xtar WPA2 II charger on any 18650's - just bought it very recently. I used it to top off a 14500 and it reached 4.18v when the light turned green.

    I tried them out in my Crelant 7G5 V2 and man they performed just fine initially. I still opted to remove them from the light for tonight and then run a bit more juice out of them tomorrow and leave them in.

    Initial impressions - great price, the labeling and shrink wrap is very professional in appearance, they arrived in about 12 days from China... not too shabby shipped to the U.S., and they didn't warm up during charge and they worked great in a long throw light.
    EDIT: And two of them fit just fine in my Crelant 7G5 V2. Have yet to test out fit in my 1x 18650 lights.

    *Only concern - should I be concerned about them being charged to 4.22v when the light turned green?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    *Only concern - should I be concerned about them being charged to 4.22v when the light turned green?
    You should be more worried about your DMM (or charger, in case your DMM is calibrated/tested against some known reference), not the batteries themselves.

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    Thanks Shadowww. It's a cheap DMM - so far I think things are in the realm of proper behavior, but I do keep a close eye out for any irregularities.

    I charged up the other pair today. They were at 3.62v out of the wrapping they came in (the others were probably at that too, I just didn't make particular note when I checked the first pair). I was able to top them off today uninterrupted on the Xtar WP2 II. When the lights turned green the batteries both measured at 4.21v right off the charger.

    This time I tested for fit in my ZL SC600 and Romisen RC-T601 II - no problem with fit what so ever. I haven't tried one yet in my Fenix TK21, but I about half expect it may not fit into that light because there have been so many reports of Fenix "T" series lights not accommodating 3100mAh 18650's (not sure if that applies to "TK" series). But heck, I'm happy they fit 3 of my 18650 lights! When I get around to checking the fit the Fenix TK21 I'll note the results here just for completionist kicks.
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    Default Re: Test/Review of Keeppower 18650 3100mAh (Black)

    zenbeam, most 18650s i get based on those Panasonic 3100s come to me sitting at around 3.6v. i think that's how they leave the panasonic factory honestly.

    my intl-outdoor ones came the same way and my orbtronics too

    nothing to worry about

    also the 4.2x volt reading you got straight off the charger 'chills out' and lowers after a bit. what you're seeing is perfectly normal
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    I like perfectly normal when dealing with these li-ions.
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    my four just arrived today and i don't know if it's purely coincidental, but none of them had the label over the protection strip (as in, the strip that goes from end to end was not under the sticker/label on any of the four)

    this is real nice. it's a small thing, but i was pleasantly surprised.

    this should also maximize the fit on any lights i throw them in
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    I finally tried one of these for fit with my Fenix TK21 - perfect! Not the least bit of issue with fit on any of my 18650 lights. Nice!

    @ tobrien -
    I looked at mine after reading about your protection strip and it seems mine is covered by the label. That is if it's what I think it is. There is a little raised strip maybe 1/8" wide (if that) that runs fully lengthwise - under my label. Can you take a photo of yours?
    Which way is it supposed to be anyway? I kind of assumed the label would cover everything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    @ tobrien -
    I looked at mine after reading about your protection strip and it seems mine is covered by the label. That is if it's what I think it is. There is a little raised strip maybe 1/8" wide (if that) that runs fully lengthwise - under my label. Can you take a photo of yours?
    Which way is it supposed to be anyway? I kind of assumed the label would cover everything?
    It does not really matter if the strip is under the label or on the opposite side, it will increase the thickness of the battery. It has to be just beside the label to reduce the impact on thickness.
    You can see how the strip looks in my article about the battery construction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKJ View Post
    It does not really matter if the strip is under the label or on the opposite side, it will increase the thickness of the battery. It has to be just beside the label to reduce the impact on thickness.
    You can see how the strip looks in my article about the battery construction.
    Okay - thanks. The "wire" is what I noticed then. So while it might be optimal to minimize battery thickness by having it beside the label, as long as there are no issues with fit otherwise, the function of the protection remains the same (under, beside or on top of the label)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenbeam View Post
    Okay - thanks. The "wire" is what I noticed then. So while it might be optimal to minimize battery thickness by having it beside the label, as long as there are no issues with fit otherwise, the function of the protection remains the same (under, beside or on top of the label)?
    Yes, the position only affects the thickness with maybe 0.1mm and does not have anything to do with the function of the protection circuit.
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