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    Default newbie needing a little help with dereelight dbs-t options?

    having some difficulty understanding their site, but from what I have read the dbs v3 and dbs-t are great throwers... interested in some more info but i am quite confused about the options etc on their site? im looking for an aspherical lense (i think lol) - not sure about pills/reflectors/tints etc? or even what i should buy? at the risk of sounding like a moron, i need to be uh... enlightened? (eek sorry that was bad)

    i did use the search function and found a few threads, but im still not quite sure whats what... is the head included or do you have to buy it separately?

    any help is much appreciated (Still learning about everything lol) thanks

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    Default Re: newbie needing a little help with dereelight dbs-t options?

    Yes, to the uninitiated, the dereelight website is quite cryptic. I was like that too the first time i was there.

    Here are the order options i recommend:

    1. Ultimate Thrower with 2x18650 option

    DBS-T 300 Lumens
    XR-E R2 Led
    2MT-M 1.5A driver
    Aspherical Head
    E650 extension tube

    That's it.

    If you want a thrower with spill get a standard DBS-T with reflector. Just choose the 2MT-M driver and the XR-E R2 pill so anytime you want to go aspherical, just order the aspheric head alone.

    You can only use one or the other a a time, swapping the heads but the driver and led remain the same, so might as well get the XR-E R2 and 2MT-M driver.

    Good luck! You wont regret that!

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    Default Re: newbie needing a little help with dereelight dbs-t options?

    thanks for the info.. just to be clear-even though the output (300 vs 700) is lower, the r2 would be a better thrower than the xm-l options correct?

    this would have everything needed: ??
    • DBS-T 300 lumens (SMO)
    • Emitter:: XR-E R2, Pill(light engine): 2MT-M
    86.00 quantity|
    $86.00
    • Aspherical lens head-T with pill
    • Pill(engine): 2MT-M, Emitter: XR-E EZ900 R2
    59.00 quantity|
    $59.00
    • Extension tube
    • Option:: EXT650
    12.00 quantity|
    $12.00

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    im in the same boat your in sitting here with money waiting to order but dont know how lol ....sucks but if i cant get this figured out ill just get a Catapult V3 .....

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    Default Re: newbie needing a little help with dereelight dbs-t options?

    The R2 EZ900 is a much better thrower than the XM-L.

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    • DBS-T 300 lumens (SMO)
    • Emitter:: XR-E R2, Pill(light engine): 2MT-M
    86.00 quantity|
    $86.00
    • DBS accessory
    • Option: Aspherical lens head(no pill)
    36.00 quantity|
    $36.00
    • DBS accessory
    • Option: EXT650
    12.00 quantity|
    $12.00
    Item total:$134.00


    Please be reminded that you will be receiving two heads, one with the smooth reflector, the other with the aspheric head. You can use one or the other. The Aspheric of course will have the better throw.

    But if you want to go pure aspheric, you will have to order it in parts such as this:



    • Aspherical lens head with pill
    • Pill(engine): 3SM, Emitter: XR-E EZ900 R2
    59.00 quantity|
    $59.00
    • DBS accessory
    • Option: DBS V3 entire host(no pill & reflector)
    46.00 quantity|
    $46.00
    • DBS accessory
    • Option: EXT650
    12.00 quantity|
    $12.00
    Item total:$117.00

    This is the setup i own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUE LED View Post
    The R2 EZ900 is a much better thrower than the XM-L.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bravo30 View Post
    im in the same boat your in sitting here with money waiting to order but dont know how lol ....sucks but if i cant get this figured out ill just get a Catapult V3 .....
    You could follow the quotes i sent jmpaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    thanks for the info.. just to be clear-even though the output (300 vs 700) is lower, the r2 would be a better thrower than the xm-l options correct?

    this would have everything needed: ??
    • DBS-T 300 lumens (SMO)
    • Emitter:: XR-E R2, Pill(light engine): 2MT-M
    86.00 quantity| $86.00
    • Aspherical lens head-T with pill
    • Pill(engine): 2MT-M, Emitter: XR-E EZ900 R2
    59.00 quantity| $59.00
    • Extension tube
    • Option:: EXT650
    12.00 quantity| $12.00
    Whoops, you doubled the order for the pill. Let me go to the dereelight site and get you what you should be ordering.

    You prefer the capability to 2x18650 the light, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadkill1109 View Post
    Whoops, you doubled the order for the pill. Let me go to the dereelight site and get you what you should be ordering.

    You prefer the capability to 2x18650 the light, right?
    yes sir (thanks for the help)

    no rush as i have spent more than i wanted to this month already on lights lol (wife is demanding clothes now!) haha its all good fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    yes sir (thanks for the help)

    no rush as i have spent more than i wanted to this month already on lights lol (wife is demanding clothes now!) haha its all good fun
    hahaha tell me about it! I'm now deciding on which ZL i want to order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    having some difficulty understanding their site, but from what I have read the dbs v3 and dbs-t are great throwers... interested in some more info but i am quite confused about the options etc on their site? im looking for an aspherical lense (i think lol) - not sure about pills/reflectors/tints etc? or even what i should buy? at the risk of sounding like a moron, i need to be uh... enlightened? (eek sorry that was bad)

    i did use the search function and found a few threads, but im still not quite sure whats what... is the head included or do you have to buy it separately?

    any help is much appreciated (Still learning about everything lol) thanks
    flashlight connection has the DBS-T model already configured with the aspheric head and ready to out throw anything in it's class. Makes it much easier to order
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven451 View Post
    flashlight connection has the DBS-T model already configured with the aspheric head and ready to out throw anything in it's class. Makes it much easier to order
    would the dbs-t model be better than the package configured from dereelights with the dbs v3 host? or essentially the same light with the "twist" mode?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    would the dbs-t model be better than the package configured from dereelights with the dbs v3 host? or essentially the same light with the "twist" mode?
    It looks like the dbs v3 model is no longer available from dereelight and the dbs-t model is the successor.
    At least that helps minimize your choice
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    Default Re: newbie needing a little help with dereelight dbs-t options?

    looks like ill go with fc's package... er.. when my credit card recovers next month that is lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    looks like ill go with fc's package... er.. when my credit card recovers next month that is lol
    Just ordered the DBS-T aspherical EZ900 package from FC yesterday. It won't ship until the 16th, but I can wait. I've been looking at one of these type lights for a while so I finally pulled the trigger. Bragging rights, work light, toy, doesn't matter. If you want one, get one. Can't wait to see how it performs.

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    Do they Make an aspherical p60 head the size of a normal head? Not a huge turbo head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    anyone know if regular protected aw rcr123s will fit? i have spare spaces kicking around if needed
    That's what I plan on using. I should know soon when I get home and will let you know if they work


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    Default Re: newbie needing a little help with dereelight dbs-t options?

    this is the email i received from flashlight connection with my inquiry:

    Thank you for your inquiry. The flashlight has a max input voltage of 12 volts, so 4 RCR123 batteries would be too much. You can use two 18650's with the extender, or 4 CR123a (non-rechargeable) batteries. There's also a smaller extender that allows the use of 3 CR123a's or 2 18500 batteries. As long as you use two batteries (of any recommended type/size) the flashlight will achieve full brightness. With a single 18650, it will only be about half as bright.
    You're correct, the extender only adds runtime, not brightness. For example; two RCR123 batteries will give the same brightness as two 18650 batteries... the 18650 batteries will give lots more runtime though. Same for three batteries... no increase in brightness, just different choices in batteries/runtime.

    Let me know if you need anything else!

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    jmpaul320,

    Good info right from the source!

    My dbs-t has landed! It is much smaller that I thought it would be. The aspherical head is big and fat though. It can fit in a pants pocket but is slightly bulky due to the head. Its hard to get size perspective looking at pictures online of lights. Even when I see them next to lights I own I still get surprised when I receive a new light.

    Also works great with 2x aw rcr16340 cells

    I can't wait for the darkness to arrive to check out what this baby can do
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    after the email i got i have decided to go with 2x aw 3100mah 18650... i have had great success with these cells and i dont mind the extra size.... i can always experiment with other cells later

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokey13 View Post
    Im glad i came accros this thread I have the same questions about Deree's site. I'm a firefighter and am looking for a pure thrower for my helment light (primary light) im currently am using a Jetbeam III M r5 with 1 18650. While this is a great light for general work on the fireground the OP reflector makes the floodyness a real problem in smokey conditions. Im thinking the Night Master but have a few questions for you experts?

    What color emitter would you guys recomend for light smoke (color not thickness)?.

    what battery setup would you advise?

    What type of setup would you recommend over the Night Master?
    Take a look at these lights -
    http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho....php?p=4640093


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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven451 View Post
    Take a look at these lights -
    http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho....php?p=4640093


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    I did see those and they look like a improvment over curent right angles. Personally I dont like the right angles because in the past they all seem "light" on the lumens but with the new FoxFurys that is not the case. Also the right angles still add about 3 inches to your overall profile and are one more thing hanging from the front of your gear to get tangled/entraped ext. That being said over 90% of guys have them and use them without complaint.

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    Most of the FF I know prefer a helmet light to a right angle light, for the same problems issues you mentioned...too clunky/in the way...plus, they don't always stay pointed where you want to see, etc. Some people might use both, one for seeing where their feet are going, and one for where their head is turned.


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    I was able to test my dbs-t aspherical with a light meter at the GTG this past weekend.

    I was hitting 117-119k cd!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven451 View Post
    I was able to test my dbs-t aspherical with a light meter at the GTG this past weekend.

    I was hitting 117-119k cd!
    wow thats nuts! mine shipped out today!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Draven451 View Post
    Take a look at these lights -
    http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho....php?p=4640093


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    I just bought the Night Master/XR-E R2/2MT-S, as soon as I receive it I can post few comments.

    As about the Dereelight guys, I sent them enough emails with lots of questions and they didnt hesitate to reply back in no time, they have high quality of service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by torva_lupus View Post
    I just bought the Night Master/XR-E R2/2MT-S, as soon as I receive it I can post few comments.

    As about the Dereelight guys, I sent them enough emails with lots of questions and they didnt hesitate to reply back in no time, they have high quality of service.
    torva lupus,

    Looking forward to reading about your experience with the Dereelight Night Master. Looks like a fine light and throw monster!

    I still have a grin ear to ear when I use my DBS-T
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    Quote Originally Posted by torva_lupus View Post
    I just bought the Night Master/XR-E R2/2MT-S, as soon as I receive it I can post few comments.

    As about the Dereelight guys, I sent them enough emails with lots of questions and they didnt hesitate to reply back in no time, they have high quality of service.
    Hi, did you recieve your light yet?
    Im thinking of ordering the same, so i really would like to know what you think about it

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    Jmpaul320,

    I was wondering when you were going to order. Awesome!
    Let us know what you think when you receive everything


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