Any word on the Eagletac D25 series clickys?

[belomeclone]

And EagleTac.... I haven't given up on you just yet... After all, I still read at night with my diffused P2OA2 MKII. But let's get that QC dept. back on track eh?

Their T20 is a very solid flashlight, probably closer to what you wanted.

I wanted a new keychain light. EagleTac USA has ignored my emails however, and I'm at a loss as to what to do right now. They have my money and are not giving me even a response on my light, or a response on what they will do to make up for this to me.

[jhc37013]

After carrying and testing the D25LC2 XM-L clicky the this past I'm very happy with this light, yes at first I was terribly bummed it did not have a true moonlight mode, ET calls it moonlight but as it's been said the 2xcr123 models only get as low as about 7 lumens.

It's kind of funny actually I use to be one of the members that loathed the moonlight modes but the past few months it's grown on me and I find it very useful.

So getting past the no moonlight mode issue the Eagletac D25LC2 offers so much for a EDC light.

D25LC2 Clicky

Pro's -
: Over 500 lumens
: Pretty decent throw for a XM-L because of the rather deep reflector (for a small light). You guys waiting on the XT-E to get sorted should get a good throwing pocket light in a compact size.
: The size, it's only slightly longer than a Quark 123x2 and about the same size at the bezel, because of the deeper reflector on the D25 it really out throws a Quark X 123x2
: Secure pocket clip, not just another snap on.
: Stainless steel bezel and a nice lanyard attachment point that also double's as a anti roll devise.
: Good holster and lanyard, if you've bought a ET light over the past year and half you know what quality the lanyard is which I think is one of the better out there.
: Multiple output mode's at the click of a rear switch, yes it's a reverse clicky so this comes with the territory but with the head loose the high mode is about as bright as the turbo mode when you tighten the head so there is rarely a need to tighten the head. You can basically have all the outputs without changing your grip on the light.

CON's (just a couple)

: Again no true moonlight mode, ET can call it what that like I will call it a power saver mode.
: When I first got the light I noticed there was a heck of a lot a lube so I removed a good 80% of it, wow I never felt such gritty threads on a light it was like sand was trapped in between my thread.

Some alcohol, q-tips, tooth brush and some Super Lube took care of that so now twisting the head is buttery smooth.

Bottom line I don't think you'll find many light's as small as this in a 18650 format if any and it works really well as a EDC light, it's incredibility bright with quick access to multiple mode's.

I almost forgot to mention a little more beam detail, my sample has nice white tint slightly cool of course but no blue and certainly no green. The beam profile is fantastic with a nice focused hotspot with bright spill, even though it throws well for a compact XM-L the spill intensity does not suffer.

[zenbeam]

@ jhc37013
Although I returned mine, I do have to say that the good parts about that light, were really very good. And who knows, I may turn my head in that direction again when the XT-E emitters are put back into production with quality issues resolved.


So, how about others? Anyone else not getting their pre-ordered clickies? Any one got your clicky? The word was "end of April". I am interested in hearing more about a variety of the other clicky D's.

[af112566]

i have a d25a clicky and like it very much,,no issues at all.its the xm-l version and is very floody.perfect for runs to the kitchen or bathroom at night.on hi its pretty bright and with the 14500 li-ion its very bright,but only has a hi and lo mode.

[zenbeam]

i have a d25a clicky and like it very much,,no issues at all.its the xm-l version and is very floody.perfect for runs to the kitchen or bathroom at night.on hi its pretty bright and with the 14500 li-ion its very bright,but only has a hi and lo mode.

That's not good to hear! How am I supposed to stick to a budget around here? lol

I JUST got two 14500's to test out my Xeno E03 and I am super impressed. I didn't realize the D25A clicky can run those! Is there any restriction that you know of? Or are 14500's listed as simply another compatible battery type?

I do so love me some small, quality flashlights. I've been interested in a D25A for some time now - even before the clickies. But with already owning a D25C, I could not justify getting something so similar yet not quite as bright. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....

[orbital]

+

Mev at light-reviews has done a review of the D25C Clicky,
...spoiler, he doesn't hate it

[reppans]

That's not good to hear! How am I supposed to stick to a budget around here? lol

I JUST got two 14500's to test out my Xeno E03 and I am super impressed. I didn't realize the D25A clicky can run those! Is there any restriction that you know of? Or are 14500's listed as simply another compatible battery type?

I do so love me some small, quality flashlights. I've been interested in a D25A for some time now - even before the clickies. But with already owning a D25C, I could not justify getting something so similar yet not quite as bright. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....

Unfortunately, the light goes into direct drive on 14500s and you will lose some of the lower modes. Discussed back on post 87.

[zenbeam]

Unfortunately, the light goes into direct drive on 14500s and you will lose some of the lower modes. Discussed back on post 87.

Yeah, but if I went this route, I'd just want the "wow" factor with the 14500 anyway. Ultimately, the D25A is too similar to my D25C to merit getting one anytime soon. Not to mention I already have 3 other single AA lights as it is... lol. But still...

[OneBigDay]

Anybody know what is going on with orders from PTS for the D25 clicky series?

Delays go down a lot easier with good communication. Obviously some dealers are already shipping these lights.

[zenbeam]

Anybody know what is going on with orders from PTS for the D25 clicky series?

Delays go down a lot easier with good communication. Obviously some dealers are already shipping these lights.

I've been wondering why there's hardly any more feedback on the new clicky-D's. I've re-opened my eyes to the D25A clicky and am now actually eyeballing the D25A2 clicky. Not ready to move on one or the other soon... waiting for "dust to settle" on this whole new series release.

Any ideas knowledge out there about delays to share? Any first impressions from others who have received clickies that we haven't heard from so far?

[cyclesport]

@ jhc37013
Although I returned mine, I do have to say that the good parts about that light, were really very good. And who knows, I may turn my head in that direction again when the XT-E emitters are put back into production with quality issues resolved.


So, how about others? Anyone else not getting their pre-ordered clickies? Any one got your clicky? The word was "end of April". I am interested in hearing more about a variety of the other clicky D's.

Thought I’d post an update regarding the D25C clicky. When I received mine from Light Junction the end April, along with the D25LC2 (both w/XM-L U2 emitters) I threw an EagleTac 3100mAh 18650 and 16430 Li-ion in each respectively and started familiarizing myself with the operation of each. As jhc37013 pointed out in post #141, the D25LC2 does program, but the low vs. moonlight are so close as to be almost indistinguishable from each other. I finally realized this after much switching back and forth, but I’m unsure why they didn’tmake this light with a true moonlight mode as in the case of the D25C Clicky which does indeed have a moonlight mode probably less than a lumen…its lower than the low in my 4Seven Quark 123Mini, and I thought that was low!

Back to the D25C though, and I’ve experienced a problem with this light that I haven’t readanywhere else yet. When I first powered mine on in the low mode (not Moonlight) with any 16430 Li-ion it would very noticeably “flicker” (like a candle flicker)…however in moonlight or any other mode it was fine, and with CR123 primaries all modes worked perfectly, although with overall lower output. This was a truly annoying and unacceptable trait IMO, so I contacted Jeff @ LJ, and after examining his stock to try and find a light to exchange for my flickering D25C it turned out all of his stock flickered too! At this point we both initiated emails to EagleTac corporate to ask why this issue. A very helpful Customer Service rep, Christina replied (from China I believe) the very next day 4/28 and asked me to fully describe the problem and send a video of the flicking, which I did. On 4/29 she once again responded that EagleTac did indeed discover that some (maybe all?) of their lights exhibited this as well, however their engineers had found the problem and would be updating their inventory and send me a new head to correct the flicker.

They sent me the new head on 5/3, and it arrived on 5/10 and it now functions perfectly in every way! Any manufacturer can have a problem with their product but it seems that both EagleTac and Light Junction really jumped on this issue, admitted up front there was a problem, and proceeded to make it right…well done to both the dealer and supplier! I wanted to share this incident in case others on this forum might also have noticed the flicker withthe D25C on low using RCR123/16430 Li-ion’s and either decided to live with it or return the light since there now appears to be a solution. I’m really happy since not only is my light fully functional but the turbo output on Li-ion’s of 700+ lumens is truly astonishing! It is on par (for 1 to 2 minutes anyway) with the Klarus XT11 on high, and that is really amazing!

[MichaelW]

Does anyone know if the CCT of the neutral xm-l is the same as the neutral xp-g?

[melty]

I received the D25LC2 XML clicky over the weekend along with a Jetbeam Intellicharger i4 and an Eagletac 3100mah battery. This is my first "real" flashlight (well... larger than AAA anyway) so I'm not really qualified to do a full review. My thoughts are pretty much the same as zenbeam stated in his review anyhow. I really like the 18650 form factor; it seems to be well-balanced in terms of size, current, capacity, and rechargeability.

One problem I'm having is that the light randomly refuses to turn on. It happens only once or twice a day (once today so far). When this happens the light won't operate at all until I unscrew one of the ends and completely remove contact with the battery. At this point the flashlight operates normally.

I have only one battery at the moment, so I'm unable to rule the battery out as the cause. The positive contact was a little messy (as zenbeam stated) and I just now cleaned it... don't know if or why that possibly would have been the issue. Anyone have any ideas? Seen this behavior before?

I love the light, output is incredible! I do wish it had a lower low mode. Moonlight mode is somewhat of a joke; barely discernable from the regular low, but that's what other lights are for .

[Danielight]

I already have the D25LC2 twisty and really like it, but for some time I have been interested in converting it to a clicky model. Had to wait until EagleTac released the battery tube for it, which eventually they did. Now I know that illuminationGear offers it (OPTIONAL D25LC2 "CLICKY" Switch Body Tube) for about $24, and I've been thinking seriously about buying it, but would really like to get some input from fellow-CPFers here to see if anyone else has converted the twisty to a clicky using this body tube?

[melty]

I already have the D25LC2 twisty and really like it, but for some time I have been interested in converting it to a clicky model. Had to wait until EagleTac released the battery tube for it, which eventually they did. Now I know that illuminationGear offers it (OPTIONAL D25LC2 "CLICKY" Switch Body Tube) for about $24, and I've been thinking seriously about buying it, but would really like to get some input from fellow-CPFers here to see if anyone else has converted the twisty to a clicky using this body tube?

Check out zenbeam's review a few pages back

http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post3934166

[Johnnyt]

I received the D25LC2 XML clicky over the weekend along with a Jetbeam Intellicharger i4 and an Eagletac 3100mah battery. This is my first "real" flashlight (well... larger than AAA anyway) so I'm not really qualified to do a full review. My thoughts are pretty much the same as zenbeam stated in his review anyhow. I really like the 18650 form factor; it seems to be well-balanced in terms of size, current, capacity, and rechargeability.

One problem I'm having is that the light randomly refuses to turn on. It happens only once or twice a day (once today so far). When this happens the light won't operate at all until I unscrew one of the ends and completely remove contact with the battery. At this point the flashlight operates normally.

I have only one battery at the moment, so I'm unable to rule the battery out as the cause. The positive contact was a little messy (as zenbeam stated) and I just now cleaned it... don't know if or why that possibly would have been the issue. Anyone have any ideas? Seen this behavior before?

I love the light, output is incredible! I do wish it had a lower low mode. Moonlight mode is somewhat of a joke; barely discernable from the regular low, but that's what other lights are for .

I ordered the exact combo of lc2 clicky, charger and eagletac 18650 battery from light junction. I love this light. I have the same experience of sometimes it won't turn on but it seems to only occur when I've been turning it off and on frequently in succession messing with the modes etc. one thing I think is that the tailcap has to be very very tight. Seems to not happen as much if I really tighten it. My first light and great brightness and three modes and wonderful runtimes and form factor for this price. Really a sweet spot to me for quality and function for the money. Personally I too would like a fourth mode of a lower low and would be more than willing to forego most of the flashing modes this light has ( maybe 5 of them?).

[zenbeam]

I have only one battery at the moment, so I'm unable to rule the battery out as the cause. The positive contact was a little messy (as zenbeam stated) and I just now cleaned it... don't know if or why that possibly would have been the issue. Anyone have any ideas? Seen this behavior before?

The only other thing I could think to check would be the tightness of the switch cover plate inside the tail cap - where the spring is attached. If that isn't reasonably snug, the contact will be poor. Take some tweezers and see if it can be tightened a partial turn clockwise.

...(OPTIONAL D25LC2 "CLICKY" Switch Body Tube) for about $24, and I've been thinking seriously about buying it, but would really like to get some input from fellow-CPFers here to see if anyone else has converted the twisty to a clicky using this body tube?

While yes, I had a small issue with my first clicky-verter tube (I love coining new phrases!) and had to exchange it, once I received the replacement, all was well. I've been EDC'ing my "converted" D25C about a week now with the new tube and just love it! What I especially appreciate is that the new tube's attached clip matches the silver color of the stainless steel bezel, retaining the original style. It totally tail stands too. And if you ever just need to twist, you can still twist to change modes after clicking to turn it on or you can always just switch tubes if you really have the need to do so. Of course you can soft tap the clicky switch to change modes and never have to twist again. While yes, I did this with my D25C, I would have to imagine you would have similarly great results with your D25LC2 twisty.


@cyclesport - that's great that you got that flickering resolved! Hopefully that was just a rare fluke.

[cyclesport]

@cyclesport - that's great that you got that flickering resolved! Hopefully that was just a rare fluke.

Yeah, thanks. But considering it was present on all of Light Junction's D25C's...I gotta think this was a wide spread problem on all of, at least the first production run lights? Maybe ordering this light a few weeks/months from now will insure EagleTac has fully addressed this issue.

[jhc37013]

I ordered the exact combo of lc2 clicky, charger and eagletac 18650 battery from light junction. I love this light. I have the same experience of sometimes it won't turn on but it seems to only occur when I've been turning it off and on frequently in succession messing with the modes etc. one thing I think is that the tailcap has to be very very tight. Seems to not happen as much if I really tighten it. My first light and great brightness and three modes and wonderful runtimes and form factor for this price. Really a sweet spot to me for quality and function for the money. Personally I too would like a fourth mode of a lower low and would be more than willing to forego most of the flashing modes this light has ( maybe 5 of them?).

I have not had this problem with the D25LC2 but have the same issue with a T20C2 MKII, sometimes it just won't turn on when I hit the switch but if click the switch right after that it will turn on. I've always thought it was just a faulty switch.

[ClassicGOD]

Just remember that going two times through the normal modes it goes into flashy modes and in slow blinking mode it has 15sec pause between flashes. It can look like light did not turn on if you quickly press the switch.

[Danielight]

The only other thing I could think to check would be the tightness of the switch cover plate inside the tail cap - where the spring is attached. If that isn't reasonably snug, the contact will be poor. Take some tweezers and see if it can be tightened a partial turn clockwise.





While yes, I had a small issue with my first clicky-verter tube (I love coining new phrases!) and had to exchange it, once I received the replacement, all was well. I've been EDC'ing my "converted" D25C about a week now with the new tube and just love it! What I especially appreciate is that the new tube's attached clip matches the silver color of the stainless steel bezel, retaining the original style. It totally tail stands too. And if you ever just need to twist, you can still twist to change modes after clicking to turn it on or you can always just switch tubes if you really have the need to do so. Of course you can soft tap the clicky switch to change modes and never have to twist again. While yes, I did this with my D25C, I would have to imagine you would have similarly great results with your D25LC2 twisty.


@cyclesport - that's great that you got that flickering resolved! Hopefully that was just a rare fluke.

Thanks for the feedback, zenbeam. I ordered my "clicky-verter" tube from illuminationGear this week. Should arrive this weekend. I'm anxious to give it a try.

[melty]

I have the same experience of sometimes it won't turn on but it seems to only occur when I've been turning it off and on frequently in succession messing with the modes etc. one thing I think is that the tailcap has to be very very tight. Seems to not happen as much if I really tighten it.

The only other thing I could think to check would be the tightness of the switch cover plate inside the tail cap - where the spring is attached. If that isn't reasonably snug, the contact will be poor. Take some tweezers and see if it can be tightened a partial turn clockwise.

Thanks for the replies. I haven't been able to reproduce the problem for the past couple of days, so perhaps the messy contacts or tightening things down had something to do with it. I didn't try opening the tail cap... hopefully that won't be necessary. I really like the light, the only thing I would want to see added is a true moon mode.

[royjohnson77]

Any word on the Eagletac D25 series clicky in Titanium?

Have any ETA on them?

[bon1]

Do this new EagleTac D25 clickys have a good fit between the head and the main body? I'm asking this because my D25A has some freeplay between the two threaded parts--the O-ring makes it feel more solid though.

[Danielight]

I received my "clicky-verter tube" (to quote zenbeam's new word) in the mail from illuminationGear. They mailed it USPS 1st Class on Tue from FL, and it arrived today, Thu, in OH. Only two days to arrive: impressive! I removed the twisty tube, replaced it with the new clicky tube (after inserting the 18650 and applying a thin coat of Super Lube to the threads). Clicked it on, and it's working like it should. What's interesting is that if you turn the light on with the tail switch, you can still run thru the different modes using the old twisty motions. Of course, now that I have a clicky tail switch, why would I want to do that?

A few observations:

- Cosmetically, the clicky tube looks nice: white lettering spelling D25LC2 on one side, and EAGTAC (with the logo) on the other.
- The light can still tailstand, but it's a little wobbly due to slight protrusion of the rubber tail switch.
- The pocket clip isn't quite as attractive as the original one screwed to the top of the twisty tube. However, it is firmly attached as a complete ring held in place in a joint about an inch below the top.
- Being able to run the light with just the clicky switch makes one-handed usage a lot easier.

All-in-all, I think this new clicky tube is a keeper.

[zenbeam]

@Danielight -
Nice to hear that overall you like the clicky-verter tube! I very much like mine.
The main thing is that it truly does make the light that you already loved... "even more"!

Yes, I'm not only corny... but melodramatic too.

[zenbeam]

Do this new EagleTac D25 clickys have a good fit between the head and the main body? I'm asking this because my D25A has some freeplay between the two threaded parts--the O-ring makes it feel more solid though.

For the brief time I had my hands on the D25LC2 clicky, there was no such play at the head/body connection. It was solid.

[jmpaul320]

i just got my d25c and have the flicker problem as well, contacted both light junction and eagle tac

[shelm]

I just saw a "Coming Soon" at one of the popular dealers on

EagleTac D25A CLICKY Ti Mini TITANIUM
(Select COOL or NEUTRAL in Cart)
XM-L U2/T5 Limited Edition

and

EagleTac D25C CLICKY Ti Mini TITANIUM
(Select COOL or NEUTRAL in Cart)
XM-L U2/T5 Limited Edition
I don't have any more info, but I'm waiting with baited breath.

"mini" is associated with TWISTY (because their twisty is really mini)
"clicky" is associated with D25 series with CLICKIES (and they arent mini anymore)
look on the retail boxes of the clickies. doesnt say "mini" anywhere

sorry for being smart aleck. it's just em

[cyclesport]

i just got my d25c and have the flicker problem as well, contacted both light junction and eagle tac

That sucks dude...know how you feel but they will take care of you. Jeff Francour @ LJ is aware of this problem. Its good you contacted EagleTac too and I'm guessing they will expidite a new head to you from China. They did this for me and I had it with 10 days or so.