All I've got is a ruler, and it's over 1" but not 1.25", so my guess is 1.1".
I'm going to try to coincide my review with the official announcement, which is planned for Thursday. SureFire's website will direct customers to dealers and will not be taking orders for the first 30 days, but dealer orders have been fulfilled so they should start showing up as being in-stock.
Update: Review posted.
Good review. One question though. I can't for the life of me figure out how to get medium and low settings. The manual doesn't say how either. =(
Do you only have high from both the head and tail switches? I think Program Set 3 is actually the default one, not Program Set 1 (mine came with Program Set 3 as default, and it seems like yours did too), so you'll need to change the program set. Twist the tail switch to constant on, then press and hold the head switch until the light turns off. That will advance the program set to the next one.
Ok. I'll have to check after it charges.
Nice review! Now I need to find the best price and order one for myself!
Curse you Robin24k! I read your review and now I must buy one! Oh the humanity!
PS Please don't review the UNR Commander when it come out!
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"It used to be 'Merkwurdigliebe'"
SureFire has confirmed that it's water-resistant.
Before taking pictures for my reviews, I always wash the lights with soap and water (to get rid of dust, fingerprints, etc. and also test water-resistance). I also filled the charge port with water and kept it there for a couple minutes, and the water level stayed the same so there was no ingress.
Speaking of the branding, the new SF light reminds me of that music again, the music that never fails to make me wonder what it must be like to strap on a gun, pin on a badge, and become - A LAWMAN!:
I've always been a big SF fan and am very excited that they have finally come out with a viable LEO light. Their old rechargeables were pretty good, but taking the battery out was just such a pain. The packaging, while cool, is a little bit over kill though. Loving the light already!
lapolicegear has it for 320.
They are the cheapest Ive found though...I paid an extra $5 because I hem-hawed around and didnt order from them quick enough.
Got mine from Bravotac for $335 with free shipping. Ordered at 3:30 my time and had shipping confirmation by 4:30 my time.
Cant wait to get it. Been waiting a long time for a replacement from SF for my 8AX, and Im hoping that maybe this will fit in the holster the 8AX rode in for the last 6 years...otherwise the wait will be on again for the correct holster! LOL!
Good review, tkanks!!!
The problem is the SF price.
I'll wait for price drop.
Do you have a comparison photo to show the difference between the Lawman and some other two batteries SF lights like E2DL, E2L, or even E2L AA? The last I remember, the Lawman seems huge in the hands of the SF spokesman during one of the SHOT Show video.
It that a Fury on the extreme left? If that is then I think the Lawman is huge in comparison to it.
Well, I think Robin mentioned it, but on my R1 the tailcap switch is VERY stiff.
No way Ill be using this as I did my 8AX. Could use that for a long time holding the tailcap switch in, as well as any of my other SF lights, but either mine has an issue, or Surefire needs to address the ridiculous pressure required to maintain the light "ON" with the tailcap.
Im hoping its an issue with mine only, but if not, c=ant help but think they didnt really do much field testing with officers before pronouncing it ready to go...I know several including myself that dont like the idea of having to hold that thing down during a traffic stop for a long time, or having to switch grips to activate it from the front for constant....the old one wasnt that way, and while I can see having it more stiff, mine is ridiculously so.
Again, Im hoping mine is just a fluke....Ive got big, strong hands, so a bit stiffer isnt an issue, as I did read that before I ordered, but this is bad.
BTW, I did email Surefire to ask them about the switch....awaiting their response. Hopefully it wont be "we purposely designed it that way", or Ill be one unhappy camper.
I know Robin said in his review that it was like that to prevent accidental activation in a "tactical situation", but then why werent the M3 and any of the others like that too?
Id say its got to do with the battery, and they had no easy way around it. My tailcap appears to be contacting the "removal ring" (for lack of a better term) at the same time as the cap hits the body to activate. Has marks on it consistent with the position of the ring.
Dunno....maybe I really do have a bad one...it happens.
Hopefully thats it. Will follow up when I know whats up for sure. Until its resolved, this one wont be on my belt though...back to the 8AX until then.
BTW again, the good news is, it will fit in the holster for the 8AX nicely.
Also, size wise, if you have a 9AN Commander (as I do), its the same size, minus the barrel width. Width wise, its like the 8AX. Just think of it as a more slender, much brighter, rechargeable 9AN with a REALLY stiff tailcap switch (jury is out on the last until I hear back from SF).
I really like the light. I think the brightness setting they chose will work well for a number of situations...I would like a bit lower low like for use in the car for paperwork or something, but it will do until they release the dongle (LOL) for it!
Again, I know others have said it, but thanks Robin24K for the review!
My tail switch is pretty stiff as well. Just a little bit stiffer than the 6PX Tactical I have. I also have a 6P Defender that is about 5 years old and the switch is noticeably softer. Then again, I also have a 10 year old E2 with a stiffer switch.
I just use the side switch.
It's stiff, and that's normal...it was the first thing I mentioned to them, and the response was that it's designed to prevent accidental activation in tactical situations (hence the raised lip on the tail cap as well). Unscrewing the tailcap about 1/3 turn from constant on should make it a bit better, but if you want constant on, it's better to use the head switch or twist the tailcap, rather than holding down the tail switch. Keep in mind that if the light is on, tapping the tail switch will turn it off, so you probably don't want that to happen unintentionally.
My guess is that the R1 is designed for use primarily with the head switch, especially if you're using a multi-mode program set. I've got medium mode in memory for the head switch, so if I need more light, I can just twist the tailcap.
Just thinking out loud, but Ive been playing with it a bit, and it almost needs to be rocked to the side to activate if its screwed down too far.
Not really something I expect from SF...but we will see where, if anywhere, it goes.
My real issue is that I want the light off when I want it off...and on when I want it on, which is why I MUCH prefer the momentary on. Basically, when I let go, I dont want to have to "click" it off. It also means I might as well have only one setting if I have to use the head switch, which kind of defeats the purpose.
Its more what Im used to, and as Surefire said its a direct replacement for my 8AX, and all of their other lights are designed with tailcap switch as the primary switch, Id think this would be the same, with an auxiliary head switch. It would seem that the opposite is true.
If so, Id then ask, why would they decide to change what LE likes in lights?
Its the reason Streamlight went to a tailcap switch....or a DS version.
Anyway....Ill either get used to it or get rid of it if SF says thats the way its supposed to be. It will be the first SF Ive ever gotten rid of if that happens though...
So this is what the beloved L7 turned into hey....
Are you primarily using it in momentary from the tail switch? Tailcap switches tend to be preferred on smaller lights, and the R1 is the first SureFire with a head switch (if I'm not mistaken), so it's definately something different.
Usually there's a preference towards head switches on larger lights, so it's not trying to change LE habits. Imagine having to use a tail switch on the UDR Dominator...