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    Default Re: What Headlamp would be comparable to the toughness of an HDS Systems EDC

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    Default Re: What Headlamp would be comparable to the toughness of an HDS Systems EDC

    I agree with garbman and driver. No headlamp is built as tough as the HDS. Apparently no headlamp maker takes waterproofing seriously. The mighty Surefire is good for all of 1.0m. One is such a small number. It's hard for most people to think of a number smaller than one. Maybe headlamp makers that meet IPX7 rating for one meter should consider advertising as waterproof to 1000mm. Even the Stenlight is only good for 25 feet. You might think a headlamp is more likely to see impact, abrasion, and deep water than a flashlight, but headlamp makers apparently do not think so.

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    Default Re: What Headlamp would be comparable to the toughness of an HDS Systems EDC

    Quote Originally Posted by Policecar View Post
    I agree with garbman and driver. No headlamp is built as tough as the HDS. Apparently no headlamp maker takes waterproofing seriously. The mighty Surefire is good for all of 1.0m. One is such a small number. It's hard for most people to think of a number smaller than one. Maybe headlamp makers that meet IPX7 rating for one meter should consider advertising as waterproof to 1000mm. Even the Stenlight is only good for 25 feet. You might think a headlamp is more likely to see impact, abrasion, and deep water than a flashlight, but headlamp makers apparently do not think so.
    These headlights aren't designed to be dive lights. Realistically, they are built to withstand dust, dirt, rain, and the occasional shallow dunking. If you need a headlight that waterproof to greater depths, look to dedicated dive lights/headlights.

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    Default Re: What Headlamp would be comparable to the toughness of an HDS Systems EDC

    The only dedicated dive headlamp I have ever seen is the Vizion made by Underwater Kinetics. This is only good for 10m water depth.

    With all of the great, well engineered, and highly waterproof flashlights (such as Dark Sucks), why are headlamps so far behind? Absolutely none are on par with the best flashlights. Headlamps will inherently see more abuse. A flashlight is commonly a toy, collection item, or something used around the house. A headlamp is very likely used in a cave, on a trail, climbing a mountain, or under your car.

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    Default Re: What Headlamp would be comparable to the toughness of an HDS Systems EDC

    Quote Originally Posted by Policecar View Post
    The only dedicated dive headlamp I have ever seen is the Vizion made by Underwater Kinetics. This is only good for 10m water depth.

    With all of the great, well engineered, and highly waterproof flashlights (such as Dark Sucks), why are headlamps so far behind? Absolutely none are on par with the best flashlights. Headlamps will inherently see more abuse. A flashlight is commonly a toy, collection item, or something used around the house. A headlamp is very likely used in a cave, on a trail, climbing a mountain, or under your car.
    I agree; thank you!!

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