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    Quote Originally Posted by notsofast View Post
    Well it finally drained the battery. Darkness happened at 12:00AM last night for a total of 465hrs (19 days 9hrs)

    I think that is respectable!
    What light did this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LightWalker View Post
    What light did this?
    100W Ra Clicky

    BTW, an update on mine: Has been shut off [other members of the household] twice for an unknown period time, each less than 10 hours. Otherwise, has been running continuously for ~190 hours. 465 hours sounds excellent, though
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notsofast View Post
    Well it finally drained the battery. Darkness happened at 12:00AM last night for a total of 465hrs (19 days 9hrs)

    I think that is respectable!
    That's why i stick with the legacy models. I use low alot for camping and stuff. It's so convenient to be able to leave the light on during a night with virtually no impact on runtime, so you or others can get up without waking others they would stumble upon in total darkness.

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    That is amazing! I am surprised the 100 went so long. That is significantly longer than my newer 140 or 200. I can't quite understand it.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    As stated in this thread the legacy models are (much) more effiecient on lower models than the current Versions (ACME).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pöbel View Post
    As stated in this thread the legacy models are (much) more effiecient on lower models than the current Versions (ACME).
    Just for clarification, do you mean legacy, as in Pre-Novatac? OR the older gen. Ra Clicky series?
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    The Ra aera lights, Ra Clicky to be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    That is amazing! I am surprised the 100 went so long. That is significantly longer than my newer 140 or 200. I can't quite understand it.
    Maybe because the battery was a 4sevens.

    We should do a comparison on a setting that is approximately 6lms.

    I have a Legacy 120 modified with an XP-G that I started yesterday. I am not expecting much difference in run time...we will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by notsofast

    Maybe because the battery was a 4sevens.

    We should do a comparison on a setting that is approximately 6lms.

    I have a Legacy 120 modified with an XP-G that I started yesterday. I am not expecting much difference in run time...we will see.
    Sure thing, I'll do whatever you guys want.

    Which Clicky, which setting, which cell? (older SF, newer Battery Station, new Ti Innovations)

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    My 140n is still chugging along. And will still do the full 10 second Burst [haven't let it run longer than that as i want to see how long it will ultimately run]. I'm honestly surprised by this. I started on the 8th, and it's the 27th, so after ~18 days of continuous run time I wouldn't have thought the cell would be able to provide enough current to light up "burst" setting.
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    RA Clicky 140n Runtime test started: 7/8/12 8:21am

    Ended: 7/29/12, sometime between 6:45 am and 3:00

    Missing datapoints: Three periods when shut off for unknown period between 4 and 10 hours.

    Est. Run time:~480 hours continuous
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    That is phenomenal!

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    Nice!
    I assume this is a previous generation light?

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    Bump for recent discussions in the HDS 16 thread.

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    Default NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    Ok guys - owing to new emitters and a new lower low, .02 lms I believe, I think new runtime tests are in order.

    I recently received a new Clicky 170 neutral with the Nichia 219. I am going to do a runtime test on this light on its lowest mode to compare with my other Clickies from the previous tests.

    The test started at 11:00pm CST on 7/15/14 and will run till these lights die. I will do my best to keep checking on them for an accurate endtime.

    Let's have some fun! Who's got the and ?


    Edit: The test is being done with a fresh Battery Station CR123.
    Last edited by nbp; 07-15-2014 at 10:31 PM.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    I recently received a new Clicky 170 neutral with the Nichia 219. I am going to do a runtime test on this light on its lowest mode to compare with my other Clickies from the previous tests.
    Why not just measure the current draw? It should get you a ballpark estimate of the run time. Measure it at 2 or 3 states of battery charge, and it should be even more accurate.

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    I recently received a new Clicky 170 neutral with the Nichia 219. I am going to do a runtime test on this light on its lowest mode to compare with my other Clickies from the previous tests...
    Do you have any other similar output sub-lumen lights that you can run side-by-side? Might be worthwhile since the incremental effort is not much more

    Quote Originally Posted by WalkIntoTheLight View Post
    Why not just measure the current draw? It should get you a ballpark estimate of the run time. Measure it at 2 or 3 states of battery charge, and it should be even more accurate.
    Not sure this method so accurate... I saw your runtime estimates for the SC52 and found them to significantly different from independent runtime tests. For example, you estimated 3.5hrs for H2b and Selfbuilt, another reviewer, and I got 2.5hrs, and L1 @ 3 days, while I got almost 5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reppans View Post
    Not sure this method so accurate... I saw your runtime estimates for the SC52 and found them to significantly different from independent runtime tests. For example, you estimated 3.5hrs for H2b and Selfbuilt, another reviewer, and I got 2.5hrs, and L1 @ 3 days, while I got almost 5.
    That's why I suggested measuring the current draw at different levels of battery charge. You're right, when I measure it at only one state of charge, it just gives a rough estimate because current draw will differ depending on the battery voltage level. There's also likely some additional draw because of the ammeter. It's good for comparing the run-time estimates between different levels, probably not accurate for the absolute number, especially if the light isn't well regulated.

    Anyway, it's just a suggestion to let you know whether you're going to be waiting 2 weeks or 6 months. Doing a real run time test is always more fun, though it does mean you lose a nice light for a long time.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

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    Very nice, thank you for doing this.
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    Thanks for this
    cool!.
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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by WalkIntoTheLight View Post
    Why not just measure the current draw? It should get you a ballpark estimate of the run time. Measure it at 2 or 3 states of battery charge, and it should be even more accurate.


    Firstly, because I don't have a current draw tester thingy.

    And secondly, because I like the suspense.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    This may have been discussed already. Is there supposed to be any difference in run time between the rotary and clicky of the same model? It'll be interesting to see the results.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    I belive they run the same firmware and have comparable runtimes.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    Guess I was thinking about the twistys. I would like to get my hands on one to mod, upgrade emitter. I have a 85TR no way I'm touching it though.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    The old Twisties are much more efficient I believe. I would imagine more akin to the Legacy 100 someone tested earlier in the thread. I think it got something like 400 hrs vs. the ACME lights I tested which were about 140 hrs. I have both a 100Tw with SSC P4 and a 85Tr with the GDP. I could test them too I suppose but I don't know how to reprogram them.

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    Looking forward to the results.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by reppans View Post
    Do you have any other similar output sub-lumen lights that you can run side-by-side? Might be worthwhile since the incremental effort is not much more
    Sorry, missed this before. I have two older Twisties and an SC52 L2. Can't think of any others that fit the criteria at the moment.

    I am editing the first post to add in the details for the new test and will put results there as well so they're easier to find.

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    Default Re: NEW HDS Clicky 140 & 200 Runtime Tests

    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    The old Twisties are much more efficient I believe. I would imagine more akin to the Legacy 100 someone tested earlier in the thread. I think it got something like 400 hrs vs. the ACME lights I tested which were about 140 hrs. I have both a 100Tw with SSC P4 and a 85Tr with the GDP. I could test them too I suppose but I don't know how to reprogram them.
    On the HDS website look under Legacy information, you can download the file for Twisty customization. Its been a while since I have programmed it, I know I removed the orings and that helped. It definitely isn't as easy as the lights are now.

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