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    Cool Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Just received my M11R neutral special edition yesterday .

    Talk about neutral! the beam looks white and the color rendition seems better than my V11R high CRI -most likely because the warm tint of the high CRI does show browns browner than normal. The last neutrals I bought where a little on the flat and cool side, but this is more like the older neutrals I have.

    I thought the V11R high CRI was my dream EDC but now I'm not so sure anymore... I have to say the 3 modes on the M11R are very well thought out (the low is more like 0,04 lumens not 4 lumens, then 60 lumens medium and 180 lumen high on primaries and 230 with RCR's... although since this is a neutral emitter, there is likely a 10% decrease on those numbers).

    It's great as an EDC, but I'm still relying on the 100% variable output of the V11R for bedtime tasks (or multi-multi-mode lights like my Zebra), since 60 lumens can be a little brutal at that time. I still have to try out the low at night, which should be low enough for my taste. The full rotary still has a lot of advantages and won't be taken off my daily rotation anytime soon (was that a pun? )

    I have to thank Jason for coming through with these special runs. At first I wasn't sure I'd take the M11R neutral, but now I know I would have regretted not jumping in.

    Does anyone have any runtime/output readings on the M11R with an AA battery in it? I'm starting to think this could be a good hiking backup if the runtime on medium is anything proportional to what it is with lithiums (10 hours @ 60 lumens If you ain't back to camp after that long, ya ain't goin' back ta camp!) although 14500's still can fit in there... so many options!
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    Glad you like it! Are you saying a V11R Neutral is perfect?

    I'll do a runtime of 1xAA on medium for you but it will take a few days... Unless someone else has?



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    i'm super impressed with my m11r neutral - it arrived today and i've been carrying it around, even forgot it was in my pocket! even after reading all the reviews, it's still surprising how small it is in person. the only weak spot i can see is the screws holding the clip in are slightly taller than the butt of the light, making it a bit wobbly when tail standing.

    it's still way too bright to check out the levels and coloring, but i'm really liking the size and shape, natural anodizing, and it's a great complement to my m30r t6.

    i was originally thinking to find a high cri v11r coupled with an m11r battery tube, using the lock out as an on off switch, but this m11r neutral will do nicely.
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    I said nothing.

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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Hi. I'm a spanish flashaholic. Please, Where can I buy a V11R or a M11R with neutral light? I do not find a store with these options ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noctiluco View Post
    Hi. I'm a spanish flashaholic. Please, Where can I buy a V11R or a M11R with neutral light? I do not find a store with these options ....
    Check out hidcanada.com

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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Quote Originally Posted by Ualnosaj View Post
    Glad you like it! Are you saying a V11R Neutral is perfect?
    I haven't had a chance to do much color rendition testing, but with this LED it probably would be


    Quote Originally Posted by Ualnosaj View Post
    I'll do a runtime of 1xAA on medium for you but it will take a few days... Unless someone else has?
    Thanks! It will certainy run for a while. I'm wondering about the output as well, but I really should dig out my extender and try it.


    Quote Originally Posted by fizzwinkus View Post
    [...] the only weak spot i can see is the screws holding the clip in are slightly taller than the butt of the light, making it a bit wobbly when tail standing.
    [...]
    I noticed the same thing, but with the clip off it stands perfectly. There should be enough room on the screws to sand them a bit and take care of that problem, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by fizzwinkus View Post
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    i was originally thinking to find a high cri v11r coupled with an m11r battery tube, using the lock out as an on off switch, but this m11r neutral will do nicely.
    I find the M11R to be a better "in case" EDC than the V11R, but the V11R is a better specific use light. This will force me to have more rotation on my weekend EDC

    Quote Originally Posted by jgraham15 View Post
    Check out hidcanada.com
    +1 That's the only place you'll find it
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    Does it go super-low like a v10R?

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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Quote Originally Posted by jgraham15 View Post
    Check out hidcanada.com
    Thanks, jgraham15 !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Espionage Studio View Post
    Does it go super-low like a v10R?
    Not as low as the V11R (I don't have a V10R) but I'd say around 0.04 lumens, which is pretty low. I have yet to wake up in the middle of the night and try that.
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    Lowest modes using Li-ion:



    From left to right:
    Sunwayman V11R
    "another light"
    Sunwayman V11R High CRI
    Sunwayman V10R Ti+
    Sunwayman M11R Premium Edition
    Jetbeam RRT-01
    Jetbeam TCR1

    I just love the TCR1!

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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    M11r Premium has very well spaced modes, the lowes is somewhere between .2 and 2 lumens. The tint is a real nice nuetral
    r5 left, m11r nuetral middle and and v11r hi cri right
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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Those Jetbeams go ridiculously low... how many lumen fractions is that?
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    It's about the glow of a good GITD green powder after 10 hours. Not sure how it would be measured in lumens

    I think I can post a pic of the light now...







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    definitely no hints with those black v11r premiums back there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fizzwinkus View Post
    definitely no hints with those black v11r premiums back there...
    For purposes of scale only...



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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Quote Originally Posted by Ualnosaj View Post
    It's about the glow of a good GITD green powder after 10 hours. Not sure how it would be measured in lumens
    [...]
    So it does not really give useful light at that level, I guess... more of a "find in the dark" feature. I might have to get one of those when my budget clears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataract View Post
    So it does not really give useful light at that level, I guess... more of a "find in the dark" feature. I might have to get one of those when my budget clears.
    The TCR1 starts ultra low whereas the RRT-01 starts low but you can dial back to ultra low.



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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Quote Originally Posted by Ualnosaj View Post
    The TCR1 starts ultra low whereas the RRT-01 starts low but you can dial back to ultra low.



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    Thanks for this info, I will certainly give that a thought before I pick a model.
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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Any chance we'll ever see natural or tan colored AA extenders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdavis View Post
    Any chance we'll ever see natural or tan colored AA extenders?
    It's unlikely but if you go back to early posts this year, some folks said Sunwayman would never do a V11R high CRI or otherwise

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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    I'm surprised not to see more people raving about their M11R. It's a very nice little light.

    I mentioned in another thread that I installed the metal switch on my V11R high CRI after sanding and polishing it. Here's the latest news: After a few weeks of breaking it in, it now works very nicely and I can't even remember last time it wanted to jam.
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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Just got my tan neutral today, very nice tint but the star is the tan anodizing, its fantastic looking in person. great fit and finish, quick shipping from hidcanada.com as well

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    Does anybody's M11R black ring in the head rattle? It's not too noticeable but just wondering if its just me
    and how's the alignment of the body and head. The clip for mine is almost lined up with the off position but isnt exact...

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    Quote Originally Posted by olrac View Post
    Just got my tan neutral today, very nice tint but the star is the tan anodizing, its fantastic looking in person. great fit and finish, quick shipping from hidcanada.com as well
    Yea, great service, I gotta say that.


    Quote Originally Posted by slntdth93 View Post
    Does anybody's M11R black ring in the head rattle? It's not too noticeable but just wondering if its just me
    and how's the alignment of the body and head. The clip for mine is almost lined up with the off position but isnt exact...
    I noticed that the bezel on mine can be unscrewed easily (same for my V11R). Looks like they didn't put any thread lock. Try to screw it in all the way and let us know if that makes a difference. Mine stay put now, but they wanted to come off on their own at first.

    I think the markings are offset from the clip on purpose. I like it, but I can see how some could be bothered by that.
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    is there any news of a v11r neutral? i ask here because they are pictured...
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    Default Re: Mr. Elfin Neutral

    Just came back from camping last week and I did some tests. The M11R neutral does have one of the best color rendition indoors, but the V11R high CRI was definitely the king of colors, flood and brightness. I chased a bear from camp and will post a detailed thread on the subject tomorrow or early next week. The V11R sure lit up the woods, I can tell you that much!
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