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    New Cree XP-G2 P60 Replacement Modules

    This thread is for XP-G2 P60 modules. I decided to start a new thread for these new emitters from Cree since my regular P60 thread is a bit crowded. At this time I will only have Coolwhite.

    I will be using a new XP-G reflector from a new manufacturer I have been using. These Lop and smooth are made for XP-G's type emitters. These are not the small hole design I have been using in my regular P60 thread. i have been using the new lop for all the nichia's I have been building and members have loved them. The lop finish is perfect in quality and makes a totally smooth ring free beam. The emitter hole is built for XP-G type emitters and they just work great.

    For those that have not read up on these, they are brighter than the XP-G and should have much better throw. The XP-G has a 125 degree beam angle and the new XP-G2 will have a 115 degree beam angle much like the XP-E but much brighter. There are rumors of 400 lumens at 1.4 amps but we will have to see if this is true but several have quoted this. Since these run at 1.4 amps give or take that means we will have a good throwing emitter with pretty darn good runtimes.

    I will get some pictures of the new emitter in the new reflector tomorrow as I get a few built. I will also post OTF lumens as soon as I get some built.

    I hope in the near future to get some neutrals but at this time they are coolwhite only. I have found some neutrals and warms but the vendor will not bread any 1000 pc reels since they are so new and that is a few too many.

    Prices will be the same as a regular XP-G so that means $35 a module shipping in the US is included.

    Potting is included in the price

    For International shipping the rates are as follows. Int 1st class is a added $12and Int priority mail is $23.95

    ALL EMITTERS NOW MOUNTED ON DIRECT BOND COPPER SINKPADS.

    Available voltages and levels and tints are below.



    XP-G2 S2 flux 2B tint 6000k
    XP-G2 R5 flux 3D tint 5000k
    XP-G2 R4 flux 5B4 tint 4000k

    XP-G2 R2 flux 7B4 tint 3100k warm white
    XP-G2 Q2 7C1 tint 3000k warm white 90CRI

    2.8-6 volts 1.4 amps
    1 level
    3 levels * low, med, high *
    3 levels * med, high , strobe* 1.5 amps only
    5 levels *low, med, high, strobe, SOS*

    with these 6 volt drivers I can add resistors to raise the amperage to 1.7 amps if wanted, that said remember the more amperage the more heat and the less runtime.

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    Low Voltage OUT OF STOCK

    XP-G2 R5 flux 1D tint 6500k
    XP-G2 R5 flux 3D tint 5000k
    XP-G2 R4 flux 5B4 tint 4000k
    XP-G2 R2 flux 7B4 tint 3100k warm white
    XP-G2 Q2 7C1 tint 3000k warm white 90CRI

    Low voltage drivers .8-3volts
    3 level (Hi 1.2 amp/ M - 50% / Lo 10%)

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    Multiple cells

    XP-G2 S2 flux 2B tint
    XP-G2 R5 flux 3D tint 5000k
    XP-G2 R4 flux 5B4 tint 4000k

    XP-G2 R2 flux 7B4 tint 3100k warm white
    XP-G2 Q2 7C1 tint 3000k warm white 90CRI

    3.6-18 volts 1.75 amps
    1 level
    __________________________________________________ ________________________________________

    XP-G2 S2 flux
    2B tint
    XP-G2 R5 flux 3D tint 5000k
    XP-G2 R4 flux 5B4 tint 4000k

    XP-G2 R2 flux 7B4 tint 3100k warm white
    XP-G2 Q2 7C1 tint 3000k warm white 90CRI

    3.6-10 volts 1.4 amps
    3 level *high, med, low*
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________________

    XP-E2 Emitters available in same options and levels available to XP-G2 above.
    Price is $35

    XP-E2 Coolwhite R3 flux 1C-1D tint
    XP-E2 Neutral 4000k R2 flux 5B4 tint
    XP-E2 Photo Red or red
    XP-E2 Green
    XTE Royal Blue
    Rebel Cyan
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    Please include whether you want OP or Smooth reflectors.

    Paypal is preferred payment method but money orders can be arranged. Paypal address is in my Bio. Please include CPF nickname, what ordered including voltage, levels, reflector type and if you want module potted in the paypal notes.

    Please post what needed in thread including levels, reflector type and voltage.

    Any questions please post in thread or PM me and I will get back to you.

    Thanks


    Here are a couple of pictures of the reflectors being used. They are the reflectors designed for XPG's


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    awwwwwww here it goes, open the flood gates haha

    i can't wait for you to stock some NW chips eventually
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    I will take this
    XP-G2 R5 flux

    3.6-10 volts 1.4 amps
    3 level *high, med, low*

    With smooth reflector please. Paypal will follow shortly. Thanks!


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    Quote Originally Posted by addictedmatt View Post
    I will take this
    XP-G2 R5 flux

    3.6-10 volts 1.4 amps
    3 level *high, med, low*

    With smooth reflector please. Paypal will follow shortly. Thanks!
    Hi

    I will ship on Tuesday morning

    Thanks

    Dave

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    Pm sent for 4 Units @ $35 each, Plus Int 1st class International shipping $5.00

    XP-G2 R5 flux
    2.8-6 volts 1.4 amps
    5 levels *high , med , low , SOS, Strobe*
    With smooth reflector


    Last edited by TORCH_BOY; 08-06-2012 at 02:40 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TORCH_BOY View Post
    Pm sent for 4 Units @ $35 each, Plus Int 1st class International shipping $5.00

    XP-G2 R5 flux
    2.8-6 volts 1.4 amps
    5 levels *high , med , low , SOS, Strobe*
    With smooth reflector


    Paypal will follow shortly if ok.
    Hi

    That is fine. I can just get 4 units in under the $5 shipping.

    Thanks

    Dave

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    XP-G2 R5 flux
    2.8-6 volts 1.4 amps
    3 levels * high , med , low *
    Orange peel ref

    paypal incoming

    thanks!

    Edit: just a quick question. What's the current on med and low? Thanks!
    Last edited by jmpaul320; 08-06-2012 at 03:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    XP-G2 R5 flux
    2.8-6 volts 1.4 amps
    3 levels * high , med , low *
    Orange peel ref

    paypal incoming

    thanks!

    Edit: just a quick question. What's the current on med and low? Thanks!
    Hi

    High is 100% / med is 30% / low is 5%

    that puts med at about 400ma and low is about 70ma

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by nailbender View Post
    Hi

    High is 100% / med is 30% / low is 5%

    that puts med at about 400ma and low is about 70ma

    Dave
    so in theory low would last over 48 hours with a 3400mah panasonic cell and medium would last 8.5 hrs

    good form

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    to Dave or anyone that knows.

    For my dive light with it's small reflector I bought your XM-L (U2 bin) drop-in to get the greatest amount of throw. Apparently your module is driven at 100% so 3 amps. Is this the best bang for my buck or are there any advantages regarding the beam with this new LED? I realize there would be a significant lumen output drop with the XP-G2 vs. your XM-L.

    You mentioned Viewing angle. The XP-G2 is 115° and the XM-L is at 125°.
    I wonder if the XP-G2 could throw better than your U2 XM-L that I purchased?
    Last edited by MRTdiver; 08-06-2012 at 03:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    so in theory low would last over 48 hours with a 3400mah panasonic cell and medium would last 8.5 hrs

    good form
    Hi

    That is correct, switch resistance and a few other things will change runtimes slightly but your figures will be quite close.

    Dave

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    XP-G2 R5 flux 1D tint
    2.8-6 volts 1.4 amps
    3 levels high , med , low
    smooth reflector
    free potting
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRTdiver View Post
    to Dave or anyone that knows.

    For my dive light with it's small reflector I bought your XM-L (U2 bin) drop-in to get the greatest amount of throw. Apparently your module is driven at 100% so 3 amps. Is this the best bang for my buck or are there any advantages regarding the beam with this new LED? I realize there would be a significant lumen output drop with the XP-G2 vs. your XM-L.

    You mentioned Viewing angle. The XP-G2 is 115° and the XM-L is at 125°.
    I wonder if the XP-G2 could throw better than your U2 XM-L that I purchased?
    Hi

    While it is a tighter beam angle and while some disagree with my thinking I still believe that raw power has alot to do with throw. If we could push the XP-G2 at 750-800 lumens like a XML then I would say yes but at half the lumens and what you are using it for I have trouble seeing it giving you more distance.

    Now if you had found you did not need as much light that you now have then having twice the runtime might be advantageous.

    Just my thoughts.

    Dave

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    I just wanted to post that I have received my shipment of emitters and I am working on the orders and on trying to get you all some good information.

    Got to get some dinner right now more a bit later.

    Dave

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    i forgot to add the free potting on my order dave - if its not too late could you add this? thanks

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    PP Sent: 40L76336LF646302A (+2YR72540SW963294D Forgot to included shipping on original)

    XP-G2 R5 flux 1D tint
    3.6-10 volts 1.4 amps
    3 level *high, med, low*
    OP reflector
    Potted
    Last edited by TheCleanerSD; 08-06-2012 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCleanerSD View Post
    PP Sent: 40L76336LF646302A (+2YR72540SW963294D Forgot to included shipping on original)

    XP-G2 R5 flux 1D tint
    3.6-10 volts 1.4 amps
    3 level *high, med, low*
    OP reflector
    Potted
    Hi Chris

    No charge for shipping in the US I have returned your $5.

    thanks for the business.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmpaul320 View Post
    i forgot to add the free potting on my order dave - if its not too late could you add this? thanks
    Hi

    NO problem, since I am including free potting you get it even if you don't order it.

    Thanks

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by nailbender View Post
    Hi

    NO problem, since I am including free potting you get it even if you don't order it.

    Thanks

    Dave
    you the man

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    By any chance would it be possible lower the amperage?

    Looking for a drop-in around the 200-250 lumen mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by slntdth93 View Post
    By any chance would it be possible lower the amperage?

    Looking for a drop-in around the 200-250 lumen mark
    Hi

    Sure we can lower the amperage that is not a problem, and it will definitely increase runtimes. If we dropped the amperage to about 1 amp I would think we would be in the right ballpark.

    Dave

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    Hi

    Pictures of the reflectors being used, I will try to get some beam shots a bit later. I also will post some lumen numbers.

    Thanks

    Dave

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    Cool,

    Looking forward

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    Dave,

    Any idea of the lux at the normal 1.4A drive level yet?

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    Might be getting ahead of myself... and off topic. But I am already wondering who will make a quad p60 of these

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyhunter1 View Post
    Dave,

    Any idea of the lux at the normal 1.4A drive level yet?

    Hi

    OK here is what I have measured in the calibrated sphere. A XPG/ S3 is about 365 to 375 lumens. A new XP-G2 R5 is around 385-395 when pushed at 1.4 amps. The real plus to this is when run at 1.4 amps the lumens after a full minute is still with in 7-10 lumens of where we started. To only loose less than 10 lumens when running full out means this is a good amperage to run these at.

    Now I also have ran them at 1.75 amps and they did go up about 15-20 lumens but with in 30 seconds had dropped to the level the 1.4 amps had been running even after several minutes. I have not tested them at 2 amps but I am sure they will take it but again they will drop quick.

    The real bonus of these will be when we can purchase neutrals or high CRI both are out there just not available in pcs. If a R5 is slightly more than a S3 then a R4 neutral white should be over 350 lumens or at least that much. I will keep checking on the neutrals but the vendors are tough on releasing new tints.

    Over all I am quite pleased at the new emitters. The VERY small lumen drop when running at suggested limits are a real plus I think and the 1D tint is about pure white to my eyes. They are a XPG and a Cree product so in a smooth they do have some rings but a nice hotspot.

    Dave

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    Hi

    One last item to cover, I have most orders that have come in complete and mailed. I would have had them all but had a few orders from the website to also mail. I will have all orders finished and posted tonight and mailed early tomorrow.

    I have plenty of these emitters so sourcing them will not be a problem.

    I will be going out of town tomorrow morning and will be back able to ship this coming Monday. I may have a connection while gone and may not as service is limited where we are going.

    Of course you can still order and I will promptly build and ship when back as I have quite a few in pills ready to go.

    Thanks

    Dave

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    thanks for the info dave... it seems these are very efficient if they "keep" their lumens for that long after startup

    cant wait for mine to arrive!

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    Hi

    OK you all should have received shipping notices by now. The few that did not make it today go early up in the morning. If you did not see a shipping notice check your spam folder.

    Thanks All

    Dave

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    Thanks for the lumens numbers. How is the throw?
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