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    Buttrock Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    I ran into this last night...suicidal party exited house after shots fired. Surefire Fury provided overwhelming light onto the suspect, but also lit up the arrest team approximately 25 + feet away in the corona. The lumens worked wonderfully and were the right amount; however I would almost like something with a little more focused beam.

    Would an XPG setup give me the beam I am seeking? The light has to be belt carried for availability and preferably no larger than a single 18650 sized model.

    Any thought or help is appreciated!

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    If you just want a hotspot and no spill, you'll want an optic or an aspherical light. What price range would you like?

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    I don't think I have defined a specific price...I am flexible. Aren't all of the aspherical lights fairly long and bulky?

    Maybe a Surefire UB3T?
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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    Have you tried the Streamlight Strion LED? Not sure how it compares, but I have it mounted on my duty AR. It is also nice on the belt. Be Safe!!

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    LX2 Lumamax.

    It has TIR optics that produce tight spot and minimal, but usable, spill that won't blind everyone around you.

    It has roughly half of the amount of output as the P2X, but the fact that the spot is so concentrated means that it has the same throw and spot intensity.

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    Look into a single mode Lenslight.

    Can be focused down to a very small, concentrated beam. It's like a mini concert light.
    There's more to a light than its output.

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    The Surefire UB3T would work, but reviews say it is about the size of a smaller 4 CR123/2 18650 light. It seems bigger then you like.

    The Lenslight might work, but it might not have enough output or have too focused of a beam.

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    Elzetta 2-cell ZFL-M60 with the tailswitch type of your choice.
    I use the Hi/Lo clicky, but they have several types.

    The light module that it comes with, Malkoff M60 is a focused thrower type beam with about 235 lumens, and throws about 150 yards. It uses a TIR optic with 8 degree beam angle, and it's pretty tight.
    The beam quality is awesome which is typical from Malkoff.

    The entire Elzetta light is a solid as a rock, and is made to be military and law-enforcement grade throughout, and has tactical switch options.
    It's made for the kind of use you describe. You'd be very hard-pressed to find a better light for that use. I think the quality and ruggedness exceeds Surefire.
    This is NOT a "toy light". This is a hard-use military grade instrument, Made in the USA.
    Also, it is weaponlight rated, and can take all the recoil you want to give it, from pistol to rifle to 12-ga shotgun, and keep on going. Weapon mounts are also available.
    All Malkoff P60 style drop-in light modules are interchangeable in this light.

    Definitely worth a look, for somebody in your line of work.
    Last edited by twl; 08-12-2012 at 03:51 PM.

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    You know, I do have a Malkoff M60 sitting on the nightstand in a Z-3/clicky. It somehow got pushed back to this duty as I had switched over to XM-L lights (Surefire Fury Defenser and Klarus XT-11) for their lumen output. I may have to rotate this one back into the lineup if I can't find something better in the near future.

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    I still have an XR-E P60 drop in that I keep in a Solarforce L2P because while I tend to prefer floody lights overall...I just can't bring myself to get rid of such an awesome spot light. It's not as bright as my XM-L drop ins but if you want a tightly focused beam this is it...while I'm guessing that the spill might still light up those around the target it won't be quite the dazzling brightness as the xm-l. If you need a new host for your Malkoff and don't have a Surefire around...I can recommend the Solarforce...yeah it's no Surefire but it also doesn't cost near as much and with an S7 switch it will work just like the Surefire twisty caps.

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    I have really warmed up to Jetbeam's Pa20

    that variable strobe is pretty awesome... not sure about the throw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viS1-4bBt5I
    If you ask me what light to buy, I have an uncontrollable urge to say "Fenix"

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    I think maelstrom g5 is pretty tightly focused and it uses the xpg which would probably be better for that then the xml lights

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    Id get a Deree light Nightmaster and carry it along with the Furry. or maybe a L1 with emitter swap? Milky ML-1 or a LX2
    Fenix LD01 R4, E05 R4, PD31, TK20, TK35, E11, Jetbeam BC25, RRT-0, Klarus NT20, iTP A3 R5, A3 Ti S2, 4Sevens Preon 1, Quark X 123^2, Sunwayman V10R Ti, Surefire G2X Tactical, ThruNite TN31, Mag-Lite XL50, Mag 2D XP-E

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    Default Re: Help! Need a bright, but focused light for LE use

    Actually the Armytek Predator might be right the kind of thing you're looking for. The reflector is deep so it does not light up a huge area around the hotspot.

    Here it is:



    Compared to say, a Maelstrom G5 as mentioned above:



    Or Fenix LD40:



    The UI is whatever you want to program it to. For simple, just program one mode on, and you have a single mode light. It is forward clicky with momentary too. I really like mine. That being said I'm probably going to sell mine and buy a Maestrom S12 because for camping the lit up area is probably a little too focused. But for your application it sounds perfect.

    PS: Images from here, they arent mine: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...o-other-lights
    Last edited by anethema; 08-19-2012 at 10:31 AM. Reason: fenix not fenis

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