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    I would like to switch to using low self discharge batteries instead of regular batteries in several of my electronic devices. To be honest, I haven't had the best experience with rechargeable batteries in the past, but I think that was mostly my own fault for forgetting to charge them before using them.

    I looked through an old camera case and came up with:
    8 Energizer 2500 mAh AA batteries that say high energy rechargable on them
    4 Duracell 1800 mAh AA batteries that say accu on them
    6 Rayovac hybrid 2100 mAh AA batteries - I understand these are actually LSD cells
    an Energizer CHDC charger and a Rayovac PS32 charger

    These batteries were all intended for digital camera use. I stopped using them as I wasn't happy with the runtime and I never seemed to remember to charge the batteries before use. From what I've recently discovered is that the Rayovac Hybrid are actually LSD. I have not charged these batteries in at least 12-14 months as I know I haven't used or charged these batteries since before I moved last July. After learning that these were LSD cells I put two of them in one of my Icon Rogue 2 lights but no dice. I then took a different two and low and behold the light works great. It's a bit less bright than with the new Energizer alcaline cells that I took out, but I find that impressive nonetheless.
    I stopped using these batteries as I was not happy with their performance in my Canon digital camera. From doing some reading I see they tend to drop to a bit over 1v under load so I have a feeling Eneloops would work better in the same camera as they are supposed to hold a higher voltage under load. I'm wondering if my camera just thought they were dead due to the voltage drop even though they were not. I plan to use these batteries in flashlights. I have 2 Icon Rogue 2's and one or two Maglite Mini LED's that these will probably work nicely in. I also have a few non-LED mini maglites.

    Seeing that I have a Fenix LD01 on the way to be my new EDC light I picked up a pack of Duracell precharged batteries at Staples yesterday. They are the made in Japan/white cap version that are commonly referred to as Duraloops. It is my understanding that these are just as good as the Sanyo Eneloops (if they aren't just rebadged)

    I did a couple quick searches and I found that both chargers I have are 'dumb' timed chargers and will not be the best for long term use of any new batteries that I purchase so I would like to get a good 'smart' charger. I don't see the need to spend $50 or more on a charger, but I've found a few that might work well and wanted to see which would be best or if I've missed anything.

    Duracell CEF23 under $20
    http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Charg.../dp/B004B9ZK4M
    This is the Australian version, but apparently it is the same and comes with 4 AA batteries. There is a chance these might be duraloops too? This seems like the most economical option for a non-used charger

    Sony BCG34 $33
    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BCG34HRE4.../dp/B001DL9WDG
    Comes with 4 precharged Sony AA batteries that will likely be more similar to the Rayovac Hybrids than Sanyo Eneloops?

    Lacrosse BC-700 $30
    http://www.amazon.com/La-Crosse-Tech...I26LLLJIJEKM3F
    This seems like the best charger out of the bunch as it is more customization and will also discharge (not sure I need that though) it does not come with any batteries making this the most expensive option.

    Are there any other options that I'm overlooking? I was looking at possibly getting this Sanyo Eneloop kit that comes with a charger. Is this a smart charger? If this is a good smart charger than I would probably just get the kit and call it a day.
    http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-SEC-N16S...I2RM1SNH2YUZIG
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    I was in your boat in January. I ponied up and got the LC BC-700 and the Maha C-9000 just to fiddle with both. I travel with the BC-700, as it's much smaller.

    For batteries, I went with Sanyo 2700 AAs, AccuPower 2900 AA/AAAs, GP ReCyKo 2050 AA LSDs, Eneloop AA/AAA LSDs and some Imedion 2400 AA LSDs.

    I have no problems with the Sanyos and AP HSDs, but were I to do it all over again, I'd just buy Eneloops and be done with it. You can get them for under $10 shipped, in sealed blister packs from reputable vendors.

    I'm almost at 6 months of a 12 month LSD shootout with the Eneloops, GP ReCyKos and the Imedions. I cycled and charged up 4 of each new battery, measured things, notated charging parameters and I'll discharge them early next year and see if the GPs and the Imedions are ultimately worth the trouble.

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    I would chunk all the batteries that you mentioned. A few years back I swore off rechargeable batteries because they were all CRAP!! It seemed like every week one died and they were always discharged even after only a few weeks.
    Recently ( a few months ago) I learned about Eneloops and a few other LSD batteries. I got a 2 dozen or so eneloops by now and 8 eneloop XX in my TK41. I could not be happier with the performance.
    I resolved that energizer lithium was the only choice in my digi-cam till I tried Eneloops. WOW!! They just last and last till you get bored trying to run them down.
    I have not tested the XX in my digital camera yet but I would bet that are even better than the regular eneloops.

    You can find the 4-packs on Amazon if you keep looking for right at $10.00 and of course there will be some of the same thing for near double that. That said, I also don't really see the justification for the XX when they cost twice as much and don't have all that much more for normal usage like digital cameras.

    As for the charger the Sysmax i4 is about 25 bucks and the Maha 9000 ( Cadillac of chargers ) runs around $55.00 average.
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    This one?
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...w_bottom_links

    Which is better between the i4 and lacrosse?

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    Go to CPF marketplace, click on good deals, and in the first few threads you should see one about eneloop glitter at adorama, $20 for 8 cells. These ALL out-tested my standard eneloops. Each cell has a capacity over 2000 mAh. These cells are where it's at. You won't have any problems throwing away the other cells after that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
    I would like to switch to using low self discharge batteries instead of regular batteries in several of my electronic devices. To be honest, I haven't had the best experience with rechargeable batteries in the past, but I think that was mostly my own fault for forgetting to charge them before using them.

    I looked through an old camera case and came up with:
    8 Energizer 2500 mAh AA batteries that say high energy rechargable on them
    4 Duracell 1800 mAh AA batteries that say accu on them
    6 Rayovac hybrid 2100 mAh AA batteries - I understand these are actually LSD cells
    an Energizer CHDC charger and a Rayovac PS32 charger

    These batteries were all intended for digital camera use. I stopped using them as I wasn't happy with the runtime and I never seemed to remember to charge the batteries before use. From what I've recently discovered is that the Rayovac Hybrid are actually LSD. I have not charged these batteries in at least 12-14 months as I know I haven't used or charged these batteries since before I moved last July. After learning that these were LSD cells I put two of them in one of my Icon Rogue 2 lights but no dice. I then took a different two and low and behold the light works great. It's a bit less bright than with the new Energizer alcaline cells that I took out, but I find that impressive nonetheless.
    I stopped using these batteries as I was not happy with their performance in my Canon digital camera. From doing some reading I see they tend to drop to a bit over 1v under load so I have a feeling Eneloops would work better in the same camera as they are supposed to hold a higher voltage under load. I'm wondering if my camera just thought they were dead due to the voltage drop even though they were not. I plan to use these batteries in flashlights. I have 2 Icon Rogue 2's and one or two Maglite Mini LED's that these will probably work nicely in. I also have a few non-LED mini maglites.

    Seeing that I have a Fenix LD01 on the way to be my new EDC light I picked up a pack of Duracell precharged batteries at Staples yesterday. They are the made in Japan/white cap version that are commonly referred to as Duraloops. It is my understanding that these are just as good as the Sanyo Eneloops (if they aren't just rebadged)

    I did a couple quick searches and I found that both chargers I have are 'dumb' timed chargers and will not be the best for long term use of any new batteries that I purchase so I would like to get a good 'smart' charger. I don't see the need to spend $50 or more on a charger, but I've found a few that might work well and wanted to see which would be best or if I've missed anything.

    Duracell CEF23 under $20
    http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Charg.../dp/B004B9ZK4M
    This is the Australian version, but apparently it is the same and comes with 4 AA batteries. There is a chance these might be duraloops too? This seems like the most economical option for a non-used charger

    Sony BCG34 $33
    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BCG34HRE4.../dp/B001DL9WDG
    Comes with 4 precharged Sony AA batteries that will likely be more similar to the Rayovac Hybrids than Sanyo Eneloops?

    Lacrosse BC-700 $30
    http://www.amazon.com/La-Crosse-Tech...I26LLLJIJEKM3F
    This seems like the best charger out of the bunch as it is more customization and will also discharge (not sure I need that though) it does not come with any batteries making this the most expensive option.

    Are there any other options that I'm overlooking? I was looking at possibly getting this Sanyo Eneloop kit that comes with a charger. Is this a smart charger? If this is a good smart charger than I would probably just get the kit and call it a day.
    http://www.amazon.com/Sanyo-SEC-N16S...I2RM1SNH2YUZIG
    To respond to the charger question:

    The Sony BCG34 or the earlier version with the LCD display has been used by my extended family in the US and Germany as well as several trademen in the US w/o any reported problems and no failures. It also has a discharge function. The single disadvantage for a flashaholic is that there are no settings for the charge or discharge. That is an advantage when the average population is involved. The Sony Cyclenergy cells have proven to be LSD cells and tests with the BC-900 indicate that they all comply with their spec - to the extent of the BC-900 capabilities.

    The LC BC-700 is a good charger. I had two BC-900 and two BC-700 chargers and had no problems over several years. Note that I very rarely used the 1000ma or higher charge rate available on the BC-900. I limit myself to the 350ma discharge and 700 ma charge rates with no problems. Due to prep'ing for a move eventually to Germany, I am down to a single BC-900, primarily because I was offered a deal for the pair of BC-700s.

    Alternatively if you are squeezed for space, check out this 2-slot smart charger with independent slots although a single readout:

    http://www.amazon.com/eneloop-Pre-Ch...=Sanyo+charger

    I have several copies of this charger and have handed it out to several people with no reported problems.

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    forgot one more charger: The Titanium 4-slot smart charger with LCD display and a discharge function available from BatteryJunction. Check out the sticky compilation by Unforgiven at the top of the forum with testing of a variety of AA chargers by Silverfox. His ratings for this charger were reasonable as well.

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    I would say to stay away from the "Titaniun MD-3000" completely. The cells get really hot and still don't even get a full charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moldyoldy View Post
    To respond to the charger question:

    The Sony BCG34 or the earlier version with the LCD display has been used by my extended family in the US and Germany as well as several trademen in the US w/o any reported problems and no failures. It also has a discharge function. The single disadvantage for a flashaholic is that there are no settings for the charge or discharge. That is an advantage when the average population is involved. The Sony Cyclenergy cells have proven to be LSD cells and tests with the BC-900 indicate that they all comply with their spec - to the extent of the BC-900 capabilities.

    The LC BC-700 is a good charger. I had two BC-900 and two BC-700 chargers and had no problems over several years. Note that I very rarely used the 1000ma or higher charge rate available on the BC-900. I limit myself to the 350ma discharge and 700 ma charge rates with no problems. Due to prep'ing for a move eventually to Germany, I am down to a single BC-900, primarily because I was offered a deal for the pair of BC-700s.

    Alternatively if you are squeezed for space, check out this 2-slot smart charger with independent slots although a single readout:

    http://www.amazon.com/eneloop-Pre-Ch...=Sanyo+charger

    I have several copies of this charger and have handed it out to several people with no reported problems.
    So this charger for under $13 shipped will get me started and I won't have to worry about overcharging my new batteries? I'm liking this price as it will allow me to spend more on actual cells. I can always upgrade later. It would travel well in a camera case or car too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
    So this charger for under $13 shipped will get me started and I won't have to worry about overcharging my new batteries? I'm liking this price as it will allow me to spend more on actual cells. I can always upgrade later. It would travel well in a camera case or car too.

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    yes, to the extent of my experience with 7 copies of this charger (so far) as they passed thru my hands and used each of them a couple times as a check before passing them off to non-flashaholics. No problems were reported from the recipients.

    Comments on this Sanyo charger: It is a "smart" charger with 1 or 2 cell capability, but either AAA or AA capability, not both at the same time because the adapter bar flips up or down for both slots. The single LED serves both slots. When the LED turns off, whatever cells are in the slots are charged. You can insert another cell of the same size at any time w/o affecting the first cell. The disadvantage is that you do not know which cell may already be finished to be able to use. Per the sheet of paper that serves as a "manual", there is a bad cell rejection, which I assume is based on high resistance. Although the termination method was not stated, based on the heating of the cells, it appears to be something like the -dV method.

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    an additional comment on the Sanyo 2-slot charger purchase source: Amazon appears to be offering this charger with the older Eneloop cells or the later 1500 cycle Eneloop cells. Your choice which one. I have not seen any offering that lists the 1800 cycle Eneloop, which I am not sure exists.
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    yet another comment on the Sanyo 2-slot charger: I have not observed any problems with initiating a charge on a NiMH cell that was nearly zero volts. Some chargers will refuse to initiate charging until the cell voltage is at some level.

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    Thanks for the heads up.

    I registered on CPF marketplace, but don't see a deals section. Do I have to have a certain number of posts before gaining access?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up.

    I registered on CPF marketplace, but don't see a deals section. Do I have to have a certain number of posts before gaining access?

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    Correct, I believe the needed number of posts is 2, after which the Good Deals section will show up in forum list. There should be a statement in the Marketplace administrative section.

    Similarly, note that the Budget Light forum on CPF itself does not show up until the CPF member has logged in.

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    Gotcha. Ill have to spend some time over there. I did see some glow in the dark lanyards that look pretty sweet.

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    Default Best AA/AAA battery Charger? Maha, Lacrosse, etc... As of August 2012

    From what I can tell these are the two leaders in AA/AAA chargers:



    • Maha MH-C9000
    • Lacrosse Technology BC1000


    Is the MH-C9000 still considered better than the Lacrosse BC1000? Is there another competitor I should look at? Just getting an up to date forum consensus.

    Older threads on this topic:[/COLOR][/h]
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...attery-charger

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    Default Re: Best AA/AAA battery Charger? Maha, Lacrosse, etc... As of August 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by Wacki View Post
    From what I can tell these are the two leaders in AA/AAA chargers:



    • Maha MH-C9000
    • Lacrosse Technology BC1000


    Is the MH-C9000 still considered better than the Lacrosse BC1000? Is there another competitor I should look at? Just getting an up to date forum consensus.

    Older threads on this topic:[/COLOR][/h]
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...attery-charger
    THe Maha C9000 is better than the BC1000, or BC900, or BC700. However do pay attention to the UI differences. Also, the size of the C9000 is large, which keeps the cells cooler for sure, but also takes a lot of space in a carry-on luggage.

    There are good chargers in the "small" size as well. Check out the sticky by Unforgiven at the top of the forum. Inside is a comparison of AA chargers by Silverfox. Many of the chargers are still sold. The Titanium TG2800 is my preference from that list, primarily because I travel a lot.

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    Default Re: Best AA/AAA battery Charger? Maha, Lacrosse, etc... As of August 2012

    How about Low Self-Discharge Rechargeable batteries like Tenergy and Camelion? Are these good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
    Thanks for the heads up.

    I registered on CPF marketplace, but don't see a deals section. Do I have to have a certain number of posts before gaining access?

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    After 3 posts will resolve it.

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    Default Re: Best AA/AAA battery Charger? Maha, Lacrosse, etc... As of August 2012

    Quote Originally Posted by jais View Post
    How about Low Self-Discharge Rechargeable batteries like Tenergy and Camelion? Are these good?
    It would be helpful if we knew which lights you planned to use these LSD NiMH cells in. Some lights draw very high currents, in the 2.5A range.

    Tests and graphs on CPF show Eneloop to be the best at holding the voltage up during high-currents. So, for example, if you were looking for LSD cells to be used in an electronic flash, then Eneloop would be the preference.

    FWIW, I have Eneloop, Imedion, and Sony CycleEnergy (or something like that). They all have demonstrated sufficient low self-discharge characteristics, including use in a computer mouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jais View Post
    How about Low Self-Discharge Rechargeable batteries like Tenergy and Camelion? Are these good?
    I have good results from Camelion AlwaysReady AA 800mAh, which actually deliver 850-900mAh capacity. Almost 4 months in my remotes, still voltage is above 1.30V (and very consistent among the batteries in each device, maximum voltage difference is 0.001V) although these remotes are slightly used but the low-self discharge aspect seems to be ok and at 1/5 the cost of an Eneloop. Also used in wireless mouse/toothbrush/hand mixer and they can last 2-3 weeks and more with heavy use. I can't comment on the higher capacity AlwaysReady performance however, probably those 2300/2500mAh may not be as good in self-discharge.
    On the other hand, I wanted some cheap batteries and, stupid me, I got those Tronic Energy 2500mAh for use in a UV insect killer assuming the higher capacity available with give more running time and don't feel sorry if they are reverse charged by draining them down completely at night. Probably my worst buy ever, maha shows around 1200-1300mAh capacity out of the box after a break-in and accept a similar charge (1200-1400) when the device turns off - so really, where is that 2500mAh capacity in first place? They do the job, the device works for 5-6 hours till it switches off - enough time to kill all flying cruel bugs - however they don't last that much compared to some 2000mAh batteries I initially used (which were fully drained by the same device). They just can't sustain 1A pulsed drain done by Maha and the same poor behavior exhibited in actual usage.
    My next test will be to check if these can actually accept 2500mAh charge. I have an older charger with a discharge capability down to 0V which can be ideal for deep discharges, way beyond what maha can do. I'll do that and recharge them in maha just to check how much charge they'll accept after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
    So this charger for under $13 shipped will get me started and I won't have to worry about overcharging my new batteries? I'm liking this price as it will allow me to spend more on actual cells. I can always upgrade later. It would travel well in a camera case or car too.

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    reference: http://www.amazon.com/eneloop-Pre-Ch...=Sanyo+charger

    update: one of the tests that I perform on AA chargers that are unknown to me is to charge 4 relatively new cells from total discharged (<1v) in the BC-900 to fully charged on the unknown and known chargers, then discharge those cells on the BC-900/700 and compare the mah capacities. The Sanyo 2-slot charger charged 4 almost new Eneloop AA cells to essentially the same capacity as a Titanium TG-2800 charger. The actual values varied between 2.05 and 2.07mah and were indistinguishable between chargers. Admittedly I had only one copy of the TG-2800 charger, but 4 Sanyo 2-slot chargers. and it did not make any difference whether I charged one or two AA cells in the Sanyo charger.

    Note: The Titanium TG-2800 charger has a discharge function, but the discharge milliamp rate is too slow for my patience.

    Actually, the last batch of 16 Eneloop AA cells were all remarkably consistent in that range. A tribute to Eneloop quality control as sourced from Thomas Distributing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soloz2 View Post
    Duracell CEF23 under $20
    http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Charg.../dp/B004B9ZK4M
    This is the Australian version, but apparently it is the same and comes with 4 AA batteries. There is a chance these might be duraloops too? This seems like the most economical option for a non-used charger
    The Duracell charger comes from China so gets bundled with Chinese made 'black top' batteries. My digital camera thinks they are empty when they are still half full. They will still run in my flashlights for another half hour or more on max. I get twice as many shots with Eneloops or Duraloops (Duracell 'white top' batteries made in Japan). Those 'black top' batteries will drop to 60% charge in a year if charged and not used. The Eneloops drop to 80%.

    The Duracell charger can only charge 2 or 4 cells which is a problem for a single cell LD01. Make sure you buy a charger that clearly states it can charge 1, 2, 3, 4 cells.

    Your existing NiMH charger(s) can charge LSD NiMH batteries. No need to buy another charger. Just get the batteries.

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    Thumbs up Re: Best AA/AAA battery Charger? Maha, Lacrosse, etc... As of August 2012

    Lacrosse Technology BC1000 has a reputation of melting batteries with a plastic fire on occasions. I could not recommend it for the fear of your house burning down in that 1 in a 1000 chance you got the dodgy one that does this! Be safe and go with the MH-C9000 as you have the assurance of many members here that it is the right choice...

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    Check out the Sanyo NC-MQR06. It has induvidual channels and it is possible to mix sizes at the same time.
    http://www.eneloop.info/products/cha...ith-mqr06.html
    http://www.eneloop.info/fileadmin/ED...manual_ENG.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by LEDninja View Post

    The Duracell charger can only charge 2 or 4 cells which is a problem for a single cell LD01. Make sure you buy a charger that clearly states it can charge 1, 2, 3, 4 cells.
    That's not true, CEF23 has 4 independent channels.

    It also uses 1 led per cell to signal when the charging is done. Red light - charging, green - done. I'm using it as a travel charger (I prefer to use Maha C9000 at home) and as a travel charger it's quite good but could be little smaller.

    Pros:
    12V car input
    USB 5V output that can be powered from accumulators.
    4 independent channels, 4 independent indicators

    Cons:
    Could be smaller
    Charging could be faster - only 550mA per slot.
    Isn't very energy efficient when generating 5v from batteries
    only 500mA max. USB output

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    Default Re: Looking for an inexpensive AA/AAA NA-MH batteries & charger

    Quote Originally Posted by blo9 View Post
    Check out the Sanyo NC-MQR06. It has induvidual channels and it is possible to mix sizes at the same time.
    http://www.eneloop.info/products/cha...ith-mqr06.html
    http://www.eneloop.info/fileadmin/ED...manual_ENG.pdf
    Thanks for the link! For reference, I will not purchase any charger w/o independent cell/channel charging.

    However based on this Sanyo charger manual referenced in the link and the Sanyo USB 2-slot charger which I do own, I realized that my practice of looking for obvious individual channel indicators was false. Sanyo seems to be in the process of designing to avoid the cost of a cutout for the slot charge LEDs by simply placing the indicator LED close to the plastic surface - with no slot. The plastic glows in that area.

    FWIW, the Sanyo USB charge LED (blue) is so bright that I had to place some dark tape over that area of the charger to dim the blinking!

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    INEXPENSIVE for me is a charger that runs without a hitch for several years and batts that do the same...



    ...need I say more?

    Last edited by Schermann; 08-24-2012 at 08:29 AM.

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    Default Re: Looking for an inexpensive AA/AAA NA-MH batteries & charger

    Quote Originally Posted by moldyoldy View Post
    Thanks for the link! For reference, I will not purchase any charger w/o independent cell/channel charging.

    However based on this Sanyo charger manual referenced in the link and the Sanyo USB 2-slot charger which I do own, I realized that my practice of looking for obvious individual channel indicators was false. Sanyo seems to be in the process of designing to avoid the cost of a cutout for the slot charge LEDs by simply placing the indicator LED close to the plastic surface - with no slot. The plastic glows in that area.

    FWIW, the Sanyo USB charge LED (blue) is so bright that I had to place some dark tape over that area of the charger to dim the blinking!
    I wouldn't just look at the leds to check if the charger got two or four channels =)
    Anyway, as a newbie on this forum I still think that the MQR06 is a very good charger. Fits all my need.

    I don't have any issues with the leds since I don't have the charger beside my bed.

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    I ordered the small travel Sanyo charger that came with 2 AA eneloops. It seems to work quite well. My plan is to put it in the camera bag for when we travel after I purchase a better charger for home. Right now I'm leaning towards the lacrosse 700 as it is around the same price as the Sanyo can be ordered from amazon and has some extra features.

    I purchased one pack of AAA Duraloops and plan to pick up some more this week. They are on sale for $8 4pk and I have two $1.50 off coupons. I also found a P&G rebate for $5 back on a $25 purchase that should work for Duracell products. I know they won't be the newer eneloops, but the price is right.

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