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    quick question: a 3P clone (fivemega) + yalls A19 extender makes it a 6P essentially, right? trying to figure out if I need the A19 or not for my 3P body
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    The length is right. To function, the inside diameters should match and the electrical contacts must touch. I've not tested FM bodies, but they should work together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    The length is right. To function, the inside diameters should match and the electrical contacts must touch. I've not tested FM bodies, but they should work together.
    ten four. Thank you. I got a bunch of 6P bodies but wasn't sure if I needed an extender or not so I'll skip that. Thanks for the response
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    IIRC the most significant difference with the FM bodies re: the P60 interface is that they are just a bit 'shallower' than the SureFires, providing a bit more 'gap' when the Z44 head/bezel assembly is installed over an unsprung LED dropin (like the OR/TL's). Something like 0.050" more than the usual small gap would be my guess. Merely cosmetic, of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kestrel View Post
    IIRC the most significant difference with the FM bodies re: the P60 interface is that they are just a bit 'shallower' than the SureFires, providing a bit more 'gap' when the Z44 head/bezel assembly is installed over an unsprung LED dropin (like the OR/TL's). Something like 0.050" more than the usual small gap would be my guess. Merely cosmetic, of course.
    thanks man i think people were saying that at the MP too.
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    Triple questions moved to the Triple Thread...
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    I just placed an order but didn't complete the payment! I have a question before I do so...

    Will a 20mm shorty body + bored A14 extender + a McClicky'd tailcap + a Moddolar head be the right dimensions inside to hold an AW protected 18650?

    Seems like it should work but I just want to be sure before I complete my order.

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    The A19 adds about 33mm in net length, about 2mm short of ideal (35mm)
    The A14 adds about 52mm in net length, about 2mm long of ideal (50mm)

    Combined with the TL20 then, the A14 nets about 72mm in cell length.

    So provided you use protected 18650 and sturdy springs at both ends, you should be good.

    With an AW/3400, McClicky, and TL Triple in a P60 interface, I'm getting about 3mm extra (75mm) to work with.
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    On my flashlight 6P/TorchLAB H3c/H1c XPG2 V4, The high mode pass in low mode after a few seconds, this is normal? This is a safety?

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    There are several monitors in the v4 triple, including battery, voltage, and thermal. What cell(s) are you running and is this happening with a cold setup as well?

    For example, are you running CR123:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/....php?p=4115401
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    I use a cell AW 18650/2200mAh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
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    answered.

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    E to C adapter can be mounted on my Surefire E2DL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN92 View Post
    E to C adapter can be mounted on my Surefire E2DL?
    Yes. The E2DL has the same body as the E2D and looks something like this with the E2C:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post2956519
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    That is what I thought, thanks Dan.

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    when i'm selecting the cryos cooling head which bezel do i pick to have 6 edges on the bezel??

    http://www.oveready.com/a-parts/beze.../prod_220.html

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    They are called crenelations. You would want a crenelated bezel ring.

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    yea i knew that, but in the pictures at the bottom there is a light with 5 crenelations, and one with 6 crenelations. how do i get the one with 6?

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    Are these tritium slots on my Cryos head? What size are they? The SF C P sized one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by scaredofthedark View Post
    yea i knew that, but in the pictures at the bottom there is a light with 5 crenelations, and one with 6 crenelations. how do i get the one with 6?
    Sorry for the confusion. The 6 point is tall and heavy, so we had the 5 point custom made.

    We don't carry the 6 point any longer, but they are available elsewhere.


    Quote Originally Posted by Nite View Post
    Are these tritium slots on my Cryos head? What size are they? The SF C P sized one...
    We have tritium ready bezel rings, here. But you're probably describing the slots in the bezel itself.

    Please see here:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...m-Installation
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    Hey Dan,

    I've read the posts about runtime of a C2 on high with the 1600 triple. A few questions: Length of M2 vs. C2. Will the A19 extender fit the M2 for 18500 cells? How much more runtime is gained with the M2 vs. C2 using 18500 cells on high mode? And finally, any idea when the HML 1600's will be in stock? I really like the look of that M2 bezel and I would think it would significantly handle the heat better. I will purchase this light as soon as the engine is in stock.

    Thank you for your time

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    Length of M2 vs. C2
    M2 and C2 bodies are identical in all physical ways. In total, the C2 is about 5 inches. With the larger bezel, the M2 is about 5.5 inches.


    Will the A19 extender fit the M2 for 18500 cells
    Yes, the A19 adds 34mm to the 65mm and yields about 99mm. The extra length is easily handled by the springs at each end.

    This will soon be a moot point, however, as our last ever natural HA A19's are almost gone.


    How much more runtime is gained with the M2 vs. C2 using 18500 cells on high mode?
    This is more complicated. Assuming you mean either light with a single 18650 vs a pair of 18500's, the H3 Triple will run at less power on the reduced voltage of a single battery, increasing its runtime advantage. Our H1 and H3 pages include runtime estimation tables for calculating and comparison purposes.


    any idea when the HML 1600's will be in stock?
    We have more XPG2 boards on the way, but do not have a landing date yet. We hope to have finished drop ins ready before March.


    I really like the look of that M2 bezel and I would think it would significantly handle the heat better.
    There is some debate on this. The M2 bezel offers more mass for heat to 'soak' into, but the M2 bezel's design means heat goes dropin>body>head. In high heat applications, the whole light will get warm, but the bezel may not get hot soon enough to take advantage of its extra mass otherwise so near the LED. So the advantage of the extra mass may be canceled by the heat path.

    This of course would not apply to our custom M2 XML configurations that include a heat path between the LED and bezel:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    We have more XPG2 boards on the way, but do not have a landing date yet. We hope to have finished drop ins ready before March.
    good info '.

    is there a difference in longevity between the switch McClicky MedPress and HardPress?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN92 View Post
    is there a difference in longevity between the switch McClicky MedPress and HardPress?
    Sorry for the confusion. There is only one McClicky switch. All differences in 'press-ness' are differences in boot.

    Medium and hard press boots are made with the same mold. HP is rubber, MP is silicon. Any differences in longevity would come down to the two materials. We have not tested for such differences.
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    I understand, thank you for the answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElectronGuru View Post
    Medium and hard press boots are made with the same mold. HP is rubber, MP is silicon.
    "Silicone".

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    Very well then. Thank you for the very detailed answer and where to look for other information. �� Looking forward to new batch of XPG2 H3's.

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    Will a TL50 with a ZRS hold 2 x 18350 or just 1 x 18650?

    Will a ZRS + TL20 + A19 hold 2x 18350 or just 1 x 18650?

    i know the answer depends on the spring in the dropin. Assume a Malkoff or Torchlab.

    I can't find a definative answer. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoyoman View Post
    Will a TL50 with a ZRS hold 2 x 18350 or just 1 x 18650?

    Will a ZRS + TL20 + A19 hold 2x 18350 or just 1 x 18650?

    i know the answer depends on the spring in the dropin. Assume a Malkoff or Torchlab.

    I can't find a definative answer. Thank you.
    A TL50 with ZRS will hold either 2 x 18350 or 1 x 18650.

    Don't know about the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoyoman View Post
    Will a ZRS + TL20 + A19 hold 2x 18350 or just 1 x 18650?
    2x18350 are pretty long for this setup, compressing more than half the length of a drop in spring. But it will fit and function.

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