and also discussed on CPF somewhere. Cant report any problems with it!!
and also discussed on CPF somewhere. Cant report any problems with it!!
How does the new jet beam i4 intellicharger rank?
I will do the search for you if you didnt have time for it:
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I did search jet beam i4 intellicharger & nothing relevant pops up & I'm not gonna spend all day reading every battery thread when I get the results.
Last edited by Anders; 01-01-2012 at 10:19 AM.
I was using the Pila with Eagletac cells. Then one day, after a very short while of charging, the charger had a serious melt down. I was told by a certain company to return the charger to them. After they got it, they told me I needed to have proof that I was using Pila batteries in it at the time it went kaboom.
Then, when I asked if I was just out of luck, they ceased speaking with me period. I was never rude, cussing, etc. Bad service from the importer, bad luck with the charger, bad information from the seller. Not sure a Pila will be the replacement for my Pila as much as I liked it when it was working properly.
I don't know Bird. I had a friend that bought a new BMW 328i. He ended up having so many problems with it he had to "return" it, I believe under the "Lemon Law". That doesn't mean that BMW's are not good cars.
I'm not saying that the Pila charger is anywhere near the quality of a BMW, in fact, I'm sure it's not. It's just a good Chinese charger, compared to most of the rest of them anyway, and has for the most part an excellent reputation here on CPF.
There can be problems with any device. I've never owned a Pila, or a BMW, for that matter. From what I know from other's experiences though, I think both are quality products. I might very well own either of them in the future, however my "foreign" cars, have always been British.
Pila customer "non-" service has always been an issue. It is fortunate that their charger has enough quality that problems with them are not common. Their seemingly combative stance on customer service and their premium price stand as offsets to their quality product.
Still, if my Pila charger ever dies, I would pick up another. Quality components and attention to detail translate to a safety margin when charging Li-Ion cells. That margin of safety gives me peace of mind when my wife goes to charge a cell.
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Most batteries don't die - they are tortured to near death, then murdered...
The best 18650 battery that I know about is the AW 18650 LiCo battery of 3100 mAh capacity. You can buy it at Lighthound. One of them will keep a Romisen RC-T601 flashlight on the medium setting (initially ~650 lumens output) burning for about four hours, as the voltage goes from 4.23V to 2.73V.
I've found most Ultrafire batteries to be inferior, and some of them are generic cells of very low capacity (about half what is claimed on the false label), repackaged by dishonest Chinese merchants. However, I have found a spectacular exception to the rule.
One of my probably "fake" Ultrafire 18650 batteries, allegedly only 3000 mAh, has proved itself capable of keeping my Romisen RC-T601 flashlight going on the medium setting for 6h 30m, which suggests its capacity might be somewhere around 4500 to 5000 mAh. I'd had no idea that kind of performance was even possible, and I don't even know whether the Chinese manufacturer even knows how to replicate this level of quality. I've never had another 18650 battery that comes close to this kind of capacity.
Last edited by Norm; 12-03-2012 at 07:06 PM.
If i was buying protected 18650s right now i would be going with either AW 3100s or Callie's Kustoms 3100s and charging them on a Pila IBC. I already have a pila ibc and have already in the past bought a couple of AW 2900s, so i won't be upgrading until these cells stop working.
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RediLast 3100 cells were the ones I settled on for my power needs and the Pila IBC charger.
Not an expert, my 18650 ranging from Hi-Max 2600mAh, AW's 2900mAh & UN-protected Panasonic 3100mAh, charged up with Xtar WP2 II or WP6 II charger
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Sorry to bring up a dead thread, but I have one flashlight which uses a 18650 battery, most of the rest are CR123A and normal alkalines (AA, AAA, C, D, etc). But I don't have a charger. I don't want to spend $50 on a charger for one battery (and I don't see myself getting more lights which use this battery). Can anyone recommend a decent charger that I can use? I don't mind putting it outside or on a non-flammable surface, if that is a problem. How long do these chargers usually take to charge an average-capacity battery?
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The current white wrapper EagleTac 3100mAh. are the best I have ever used and they fit all my 'lights!
I ended up remembering that I had a charger that came with a laser I bought... duh me.
Thanks for the info though. If I get more devices that use these batteries I will look at those Xtar chargers more closely. PS When I googled those chargers, all the hits seemed to be about e-cigarettes? I guess they use similar batteries.
Last edited by photon1c; 09-07-2012 at 06:54 PM.
Also cheaper (right?)
Consider the 4sevens charger, version 3, I believe. I've been using it since its release with zero issues, 14500's, 16340's and 18650's all come off at 4.16v and settle at 4.15v. Never gets warm, two charge rates and good construction. I own less than ten li-ion cells so the single bay doesn't hamper me at all. Backed by 4sevens c/s if you have an issue.
I'm looking to expand and may just buy another, but I am intrigued by some of the newcomers. I wonder if you may see a price drop on the Pila if enough cc/cv chargers prove worthy?
Some boards (like my 4) are Blue for charging and Red for charge complete , others are the other way round ... I am very pleased with my four cheap chargers and they work superbly and are so easy to make (and store) ... I started off using one amp USB PSU's that plug into the mains sockets and they worked perfectly ... Had to use one for each charger board.
I have now made a five volt four amp PSU fitted with four USB sockets , though I only usually charge two batteries at a time ... I was very sceptical about how these (dirt-cheap) charger boards would work , but am delighted with them ... When the LED's change colour , the charging current virtually stops (just a few milliamps) ... If you leave the battery on charge for a while after the LED's change colour , the battery voltage drops a few millivolts proving that the charging current has virtually stopped.
If you want to charge at a lower current than one amp for other batteries , then you will have to change a resistor ... I have not bothered with this as I only use these for Li-Ions of over 2400mAh and even these batteries are being replaced by Panasonic 3100mAh cells ... So no problem.
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I am using the charger from larryDFW and it seems like it is pretty good for a cheap one but this is my first time working with 18650 cell's. Since my cells are unprotected I typically charge them once every 5 days the cells are down to 3volts or so. Take two to three hrs and they are back up to 4.17-4.2 range. Typically when I pull them straight off the charger they are 4.2 and then seem to hang around 4.17 but mind you it could be my meter since it is analog my readings my be a tad off. But when I go to work I tend to test them with our digital meters to verify.