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    Default New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    Looks like SF is going to make some product announcements (according to a drunk rep in Las Vegas last night, uh, I mean to say a well placed source who has reported reliably in the past ):

    The 4000 lumen LED Annihilator

    P2X Fury updated to 600 lumens from 500 lumens

    P3X Fury - 800 lumens

    Weaponlight mount kits for both Fury's

    X300V White and IR weaponlight

    X400V-IR White, IR and laser weaponlight

    E2D LED Defender Ultra 500 lumens

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    Surefire just posted a video up on youtube about their new product line up, looks great! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaDzaErCSo I am really interested in the new x300v and how the new OMNI switch functions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trbofrek View Post
    Surefire just posted a video up on youtube about their new product line up, looks great! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yaDzaErCSo I am really interested in the new x300v and how the new OMNI switch functions.
    Thanks! I see the P1R Peacekeeper, 700 lumens dual mode clicky. Looks like a combo of the Fury-styled head, knurled body and LX2 type tailcap.

    SF has filed recent trademark applications for the names 'Aegis', 'Wasp' and 'Mantis'.

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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    we shall see what really comes to "light". They are as usual notorious for showing awesome items that never make it to the shelves and then gets dropped or faded into the background the following year.

    I am interested in a couple of the lights they showed in that video. At least 5 of them I would buy immediately if they were available in 2013.
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    That e2dl sounds great, what they will use for 500lm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aspirina750 View Post
    That e2dl sounds great, what they will use for 500lm?
    I speculate that it is the same head electronics with a TIR optic as the recently released X300 Ultra and the EB1 Backup. The EB1 puts out 200 lumens on one CR123, it is thought to have a Cree XP-E emitter. However, I think the X300 Ultra, and presumably the E2DL Ultra, must have an upgraded emitter to get 500 lumens (they are two cell designs).

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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    I like the P1R Peacekeeper also, it would be my first Surefire rechargeable since my 8x back in '94.

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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    the P3X Fury.
    ..if anyone SF owners know, is the light output on these lights brilliant pure white?.
    my fenix pd32ue is creamy white (3C tint), but a whiter white would be nice too.
    wondering if its as really white as the videos show, whiter than the pd32ue, or is it just some cooler blue.

    thanks.
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    Default New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    New for 2013...the 2012 lights. I wonder if they are still going to produce the UM2 Ultra?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    New for 2013...the 2012 lights. I wonder if they are still going to produce the UM2 Ultra?
    I'd laugh if it weren't so true...

    That new P1R seems to have the same funky mixed motif design of the UM2 Ultra: Head like the P2X/Fury series, knurled body like the classic PK lights and ribbed tailcap like the LX2/A2L lights. As others have observed, there seem to be several new lights around the 500 lumen mark in addition to the 'classic' P2X Fury: the LX2 Lumamax Ultra, the X300 Ultra and now (I claim, I don't believe it's in the just released video) the E2DL Defender Ultra.

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    500/600lm screams 2-cell XM-L light to me. It expect they have a high likelihood of being XM-L2 emitters. The XM-L2 makes sense since they are a lot cheaper; if you're going to buy a bunch for some new lights it does not make much sense to buy the older more expensive emitters.

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    I too will wait patiently. I am still waiting for the LX2 Ultra.

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    WOW look at that 4000 lumen LED Annihilator What LED will that use to get 4000 lumens?

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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    That has me baffled too, I don't think the mtg2 is capable of that is it? I'm sure it's out of my price range, but if its a single emitter then it'll be a game changer for stock lights here's hoping

    on duty gear has a pic too
    http://www.ondutygear.com/blog/suref...-show/2013/01/

    dang that sure looks single emitter to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig K View Post
    WOW look at that 4000 lumen LED Annihilator What LED will that use to get 4000 lumens?
    Here's a look down the barrel of the prototype at SHOT last year:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=8DMs__lwZIA

    Last year's model was listed at 2000 lumens and had a reflector. The 'new' version (if it is ever produced) has a TIR and claims twice the lumens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Craig K View Post
    WOW look at that 4000 lumen LED Annihilator What LED will that use to get 4000 lumens?
    CSM-360 perhaps?

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    The 4000 lumen LED Annihilator has my interest! Would that be the brightest production LED light with the exception of the olight X6?
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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    I have been asking for years for 1xAA with 2 or 3 stage clicky. Cmon now every manufacturer has one why not Surefire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinemaster View Post
    I have been asking for years for 1xAA with 2 or 3 stage clicky. Cmon now every manufacturer has one why not Surefire.




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    I think the E2D Ultra is a must have just to match my current E2DL. E series package with 500 lumens,Oh Yah!!
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    Surefire reminds me of Disney. At Disney they have people that work there called Imaginaires. They dream up the most imaginative stuff. Unfortunately only a very small percentage actually becomes reality. I refuse to even look at the video. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. I would like to see less imagination and more reality from Surefire.

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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    lol,...that's funny.
    Surefire seems more like a film in those videos than selling anything...maybe that's what it is. lol.
    you wait all that time, and nothing happens. waste of time. I best Avoid SF, as my money can't wait around that long!...lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brianna View Post
    Surefire reminds me of Disney. At Disney they have people that work there called Imaginaires. They dream up the most imaginative stuff. Unfortunately only a very small percentage actually becomes reality. I refuse to even look at the video. I don't want to set myself up for disappointment. I would like to see less imagination and more reality from Surefire.
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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    They HAD to have read my post here:http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...t=#post4020338

    Because it looks like they listened to me when I said they needed to put a watch on the wristlight

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    Im wondering what that omni switch on the P2X weaponlight version is all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melson View Post
    They HAD to have read my post here:http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...t=#post4020338

    Because it looks like they listened to me when I said they needed to put a watch on the wristlight
    Somehow, I'm not rightly sure they got the idea from your CPF post last September since the SF wrist light already had a model with a watch at last year's SHOT show in January :

    http://miltechrev.com/2012/02/02/sho...d-accessories/

    Looks like the watch version has the HCP (high canon pinion) Harley Ronda 715 movement, hopefully the five jewel variant found in the more expensive Trasers like the P6506. Less expensive Trasers and most current Luminox 'Navy Seals' watches use the one jewel Ronda 715 movement from the few that I've looked inside. These watches need HCP movements due to the thickness of the hands with the tritium vials attached. I believe the watches on the SF wrist lights are manufactured in Switzerland by MB-Microtec AG, not sure if that still qualifies them for the 'Buy American Act' (41 U.S.C. § 10a–10d).
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    Default Re: New Surefire Lights at SHOT Show 2013

    hopefully we will see a video from the surefire booth soon. where you at marshall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tab665 View Post
    hopefully we will see a video from the surefire booth soon. where you at marshall!
    Stuart Yager of SF promised to respond to our questions here on CPF in last year's SHOT Shot thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart@surefire View Post
    That's me in the video. Many of you know me. I will take some time tomorrow to address your questions. Thanks for all the support!
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post3856729

    Somehow Stuart disappeared from CPF, never to return, after that post...

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    Stuart was here recently I believe to help out with some counterfeit SFs a member posted about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nbp View Post
    Stuart was here recently I believe to help out with some counterfeit SFs a member posted about.
    Are you perhaps thinking of Thomas from this post:

    Quote Originally Posted by silveradohd39 View Post
    Hello Confederatescott,

    My name is Thomas and I am the PR specialist for SureFire. I saw this post and wanted to know if you could contact me so we can look into the "phony" SureFire's. publicrelations@surefire.com

    Kind Regards,
    Thomas
    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...=1#post4073097

    Stuart's last post here was the one I quoted (unless he's got a new ID) according to his CPF profile page:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...tuart-surefire

    Hopefully it has nothing to do with this e-mail I received today from a SF dealer:

    In the past few months, Surefire has informed us that they have reduced staff and decreased production, even though it has been an extremely heavy sales period. Due to the lack of inventory available at Surefire and extremely long lead times, ******* has chosen to discontinue stocking Surefire products at this time.
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    Yeah that's the one..remembered incorrectly.

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