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    What features make a good SHTF/survival light? And what flashlight do you think best fits this description? Optional: What batteries would you use in this flashlight?

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    For me (in my situation) I like having AA lights running eneloops. (mostly Quarks) I keep a AA headlamps and 2XAA flashlights in my kits. I have a AA EDC (running 14500) light and Jetbeam PA40 in the truck, to complements those.

    My headlamps are a big part of my system, because they give me the most options for use, I can do about anything with a headlamp. So the Fenix HL21's and HL30 and Zebralight H51's are the core of my SHTF lights, along with fenix headbands for other lights.

    The newer 4XAA to 8XAA's really do a great job of holding their own with more exotic battery types and its easier for me to get extra batteries in my area without having to place orders for batteries. I use 123a/16340, and 18650 lights but my kit lights are AA's stocked with eneloops and my bug out location (cabin) has a solar system to charge automotive batteries that can run the Nitecore I4 charger, and I have a I2 charger for the truck on order.

    For me being able to run to the hardware store in my rural location and pick up batteries like energizer lithiums off the shelf is a plus. And in a pinch can grab a big pack of alkaline duracells. The 123a's run 10 bucks a pair in the stores here! So I feed those lights on ordered batteries or 16340's but can't count on a large supply unless I make bulk orders. The shelf life of AA lithium matches those batteies so it negates the shelf life issue for me.

    I can't tell you that "My Way" is the best way but it works for me. I am really pleased with the output of the high end AA lights and those batteries are available for other itmes that I need to run. (one of my pet peevs with the exotic batteries I have yet to see an 18650 radio, walkie talkie, or other needed item but if i do find them I will get some.)
    I also like the fact that I can get cheeper "throw away" LED or Incan lights in 2xAA format cheeper than other battery type to stash around the house, cabin or vehicle.
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    From my limited knowledge of flashlights, I would say a good AA light with a long runtime low mode and a boatload of rechargeable AA's and a few packages of alkalines for backup. Having multiple flashlights is a good idea as well. Out of my dozen or so lights I own, if i had to pick one, it would be the Fenix LD41. It has good lumen spacing and the low (5 lumens) mode will run 160 hours.

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    In reference to post # 3.

    And now I see on youtube you can even recharge alkalines if you only do real low charge and for like an hour at a time with several hour gaps. Maybe use timer in the unlikely event that you still have ac. Problem with alkalines is heat blows the seals on ends. Made that way on purpose so you have to buy new ones. Who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightster View Post
    From my limited knowledge of flashlights, I would say a good AA light with a long runtime low mode and a boatload of rechargeable AA's and a few packages of alkalines for backup. Having multiple flashlights is a good idea as well. Out of my dozen or so lights I own, if i had to pick one, it would be the Fenix LD41. It has good lumen spacing and the low (5 lumens) mode will run 160 hours.
    Concur with Nightster on the Fenix LD41. Runs on easily obtained AA batteries. The low (5 lumen) is quite useful in a home, cabin, or tent setting.
    The 520 lumen turbo setting will reach beyond 100 yards if needed.

    The latest LD41 runs the U2 Cree LED and has a low of 10 lumens for 150 hours and a very good 85 lumen medium for 21 hrs. The powerhouse TK70 running 4XD cells will run 168 hours with 20 lumens and offers 300 lumens for 15 hrs. AA and D batteries are easily found in alkaline and NiMh types and can get anyone through an emergency.

    18650s and 14500s are great batteries as long as one has a solar charging system if one expects a long term loss of electrical service or simply wants to be off the grid. Happy light shopping and Merry Christmas!! ;-)

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    I like the Peak stainless steel Logan 17500 ... with the adapter set, you can run AA, AAA, (R)CR123A, 17500 / 14500 / 10440, among other power options

    Another great (if rather expensive) option is a Malkoff M30 / VME combo .... With the appropriate variety of E-series compatible tubes, this can be powered on AA, CR123A, RCR123A, 14500, even 18650

    Both of the above options are simple, reliable, and durable - excellent qualities for use as emergency torches.

    Rechargeable cells and a solar charger (plus a stock of lithium primaries) are good accessories to add, as well
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    Malkoff M61 (or 61L/LL) in a 1x18350 P60 host with a few 18mm ID body extenders to run anything from 1xCR123 up to 2x18650 or 2xAA, and just about anything in between. Alternately, the same setup, but with a Nailbender 3.6-16V P60 in the light, and a Nailbender .8-3V P60 (which Dave rates as safe with 2xAA Lithium primaries even though they hit 3.4v peak when fresh) in a secure carrier.

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    Post #2, Jetbeam PA40 and post #3, Fenix LD41...........are pretty much the same. I love my Jetbeam PA40.

    I think any light will work for SHTF scenario as long as it uses rechargeable batteries. And as long as the light you pick has a few modes so that you can turn it down and conserve battery power. For that reason AA lights and Eneloop rechargeables are proabably the simplest to deal with. You may also want a single AA light too (backup?) or easy pocket carry.

    The question then boils down to how to get the batteries recharged if the power stays out for a long time. Personally I have a LaCrosse BC-700 charger and an adapter that converts 12v down to the 3v that the charger uses. That way any solar or vehicle power will keep me going. There are also some USB type of chargers and you can always get a 12v to usb adapter.

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    Here's my setup which I'm going to use for camping, and all the same for a SHTF situation:

    Bored SureFire 6P with A19 extender >> Inside is an AA sleeve with two Enloops driving a Malkoff
    M61WLL 70 lumens. I can run AA's or break the 6P down to run 18650's. Although I doubt I would
    do this since finding AA's can drive this dropin MUCH longer than lithium. Ironic yes, but 18650's
    are terrible for low draw applications. But at least there's some redundancy.

    ZebraLight H51C >> Backup light, also runs on AA. Would run it on low as a trekking light attached
    to the front of my backpack shoulder strap.
    EagleTac TX25C2 >> Secondary light using 18650's which I would use only if breakthrough lighting
    or signaling is needed. 950+ OTF lumens.
    Two 9V Pak-Lite's >> Would essentially use them with a diffuser to light up my camp area. Last
    resort backup.
    Six panel PowerFilm 4X AA solar charger >> Keeps me running, folds up nice, weighs about the
    same as two Enloop XX's!
    Verbatim 4X AA battery bank with USB adapter. Attached is a CottonPickers 90/300/480/700mAh
    lithium USB charger.
    Griffin car power port USB adapter >> Can be used to drive the CottonPicker.
    Four spare Enloop XX's >> With four additional in the battery bank.
    Three spare Panasonic 3400mAh 18650's.
    Spare McClicky replacement.

    To lighten the load I could probably just go with one spare 18650 and one Pak-Lite. The AA setup is
    paramount so all the rest would stay. Really depends how long I anticipate being out, the situation,
    where I'm heading, and, sunlight viability.




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    Any questions, let me know!
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    This is something special!

    Great idea and a nice package, I certainly would learn from this and build myself a set

    Thanks for sharing, ledmitter.


    Quote Originally Posted by ledmitter_nli View Post
    Here's my setup which I'm going to use for camping, and all the same for a SHTF situation:......

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    Default Re: Best SHTF/survival flashlight? And setup

    When I see questions pertaining to when the SHTF survival, I wonder... what kind of scenario are people considering? Surviving in the comforts of home without electricity for a few days, backpacking along the interstates for 50 miles- to civilization that still has power, or moving off into the woods to live off squirrels.

    How long will survival by flashlight be a necessity? Seems to me, that question will determine to a great extent what equipment will be packed, needed, and carried.

    Potable drinking water is pretty important, and can be sterilized with UV light, and despite the fact that flashlight and battery redundancy seems to be considered by all, I don't recall seeing a UV drop-in, or a UV SteriPen on anyone's list of "survival" lights.

    Question... is there a p60 dropin eqivalent to the SteriPen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiuintahs View Post
    Post #2, Jetbeam PA40 and post #3, Fenix LD41...........are pretty much the same. I love my Jetbeam PA40.

    I think any light will work for SHTF scenario as long as it uses rechargeable batteries. And as long as the light you pick has a few modes so that you can turn it down and conserve battery power. For that reason AA lights and Eneloop rechargeables are proabably the simplest to deal with. You may also want a single AA light too (backup?) or easy pocket carry.

    The question then boils down to how to get the batteries recharged if the power stays out for a long time. Personally I have a LaCrosse BC-700 charger and an adapter that converts 12v down to the 3v that the charger uses. That way any solar or vehicle power will keep me going. There are also some USB type of chargers and you can always get a 12v to usb adapter.
    The Maha c9000 charger will run right off 12 volt. When renovating old or deficient batteries the maha and lacrosse each have their own advatages depending on the problem. can't remember the diff tho. Old amazon posts comparing the two read long ago

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    I'll +1 with the AA folks, along with efficient, low lumens and moonlight mode, which will give you 200-400 hrs on a AA alkaline with enough illumination to handle close task work with dark-adapted eyes... 0.3 and 3 lms are my most favorite camping modes. Quark AAXs (various flavors/tints) are also my mainstay - with the ability to run 0.9-4.2v you can tune performance by the grade of fuel - from full (R)CR123 equivalency to household AAA & 9v scavenging options... and of course solar charging options for Li-ions and NiMh. Also highly prefer Quarks for its field-serviceable/by-passable mechanical clicky, and ability to Lego for redundant parts and other batt configs.

    I used to be a diehard headlamp guy but now have gone minimalist with DIY lantern and "neck lamp" wallet accessories for camping - they're about 75% as good as the purpose-built device for about 5% of the weight and bulk... And of course, on my person 24/7 - what's that worth?


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    If I could only have one SHTF survival flashlight it would be a PakLite with cyan LEDs and one extra battery. See avitar. That would give me not only two thousand hours of useful runtime that will fit in the tightest Levi pocket but it would also be a light that would be invisible to rogue cops with night vision devices. Same goes for MIL night vision devices. Been there, done that, got the smelly tee shirt. I can hide better than anyone can shoot.

    "The better part of valor is discretion" -- John Fallstaff.

    Also, if you don't have enough water and food to carry you through the runtime of your emergency lights, stacks of batteries are worthless.

    FWIW I have over three years worth of food, an endless supply of water and five ways to cook when the grid is down. Lots more lights and cells, too.
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    Oh, and not to take away from the exhaustive and comprehensive setup shown by ledmitter_nli!

    That's just cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dss_777 View Post
    Oh, and not to take away from the exhaustive and comprehensive setup shown by ledmitter_nli!

    That's just cool.
    I just try my best. Thanks!

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    IMO a small close quarter light with low setting and long runtimes is essential kit you can not do without. I have a zebralight SC51 on me and H51c in my bag. I like to stick with AA eneloops and one full set of energizer lithium. My CB and other kit use AAs.

    If you have the extra space and weight capacity I think a really thrower like a short XML2 mag mod is best. P60 style lights get a get bit more throw but they will still be floody because of small reflector

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    I also wonder what OP means by SHTF. Because If faced with SHTF in an EXTREME sense your flashlight situation would have many viable options and be an inexpensive piece of the puzzle. Long storage food packets (expensive) and heat are HUGE obstacles! I consider the flashlight situation in SHTF almost as easy as your clothes situation (EASY). Almost unworthy of being in the SHTF conversation it's so easy. Food, far from easy

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    Agree. Id rather have a fishing rod or my speargun than a flashlight in a shtf situation. Mankind have survived for ages with no flashlight. Not so long with no food :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeastFlashlight View Post
    I also wonder what OP means by SHTF. Because If faced with SHTF in an EXTREME sense your flashlight situation would have many viable options and be an inexpensive piece of the puzzle. Long storage food packets (expensive) and heat are HUGE obstacles! I consider the flashlight situation in SHTF almost as easy as your clothes situation (EASY). Almost unworthy of being in the SHTF conversation it's so easy. Food, far from easy
    Quote Originally Posted by jorn View Post
    Agree. Id rather have a fishing rod or my speargun than a flashlight in a shtf situation. Mankind have survived for ages with no flashlight. Not so long with no food :-)
    Considering that Biologically clean water is more important than food and boiling water is a universally accepted method of killing bacteria and virii, I decided to try to start a fire with a flashlight reflector. The sky was slightly overcast but the sun was relatively strong, it was about 10:30 in the morning so the sun was still a little low in the sky. I tried two different reflectors, one 2 inches wide and shallow, and the other a 3 D mag which is almost 2 inches wide and a bit deeper.

    I've seen youtube videos using a maglight reflector, so I know that it is possible. With the shallow reflector, it was going to be a cold day. With the maglight reflector, I got smoke but no fire. I don't have one of those zooms with an aspherical lens... I wonder how they would do?

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    A simple magnifying glass works a lot better than a light's reflector if using the sun to start a fire...ask any number of historically popped ants, etc.

    Of course, the way my luck goes typically, I'd need the fire when all the wood is wet due to the rain that hasn't stopped for the past week, etc....so, nothing dry to burn, and no sunlight to magnify, etc.

    That's when whittling out some kindling/fatwood from a dead stump, etc...comes in handy, and caveman survival skills become very valuable. The Zippo mentioned earlier of course is a nice crutch I would not be above using in that sort of environment.

    Boiling water kills stuff, but you do need something to boil it IN, like a pot, or, a skunk cabbage leaf...etc. Making a condensation still will help a lot, and if it IS raining, at least there's ways to get cleaner water.

    I like my folding Cottonpicker solar charger, it can charge so much at a time its unreal.

    Depending upon the LENGTH of the SHTF scenario, batteries, even if rechargeable, start to lose function over time. Most humans are not nocturnal, and, if you are being productive all day, you sleep at night, not hang out with flashlights, etc. Frankly, as much as I love my lights, a campfire is quite pleasant for that purpose anyway.

    Enough food to carry through the INITIAL S hitting the fan is good...if you will be running for your life, etc.

    If the scenario has you surviving where you started, at home for example, a very long term solution can be functional.


    So, as pointed out, its a good idea to decide WHAT scenario(s) you are prepping for...and think about factors such as how portable and durable your stuff needs to be, and if a radiation or toxin issue might be involved (No steripen/boiling solution there), so that a still would be needed for clean/less deadly water, and so forth. Are you expecting ZOMBIES? Please don't, its fun, but unlikely enough that I think we can slip that one...and it can skew your prep in non-productive ways.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TEEJ View Post
    A simple magnifying glass works a lot better than a light's reflector if using the sun to start a fire...ask any number of historically popped ants, etc.

    So, as pointed out, its a good idea to decide WHAT scenario(s) you are prepping for...and think about factors such as how portable and durable your stuff needs to be, and if a radiation or toxin issue might be involved (No steripen/boiling solution there), so that a still would be needed for clean/less deadly water, and so forth. Are you expecting ZOMBIES? Please don't, its fun, but unlikely enough that I think we can slip that one...and it can skew your prep in non-productive ways.

    I agree... types of scenarios can vary greatly, and determine what kind of equipment would best serve the need/s.

    For example a sun blocking event caused by volcanic eruptions, forest fires, asteroid impact, or nuclear winter, would reduce the effectivness of solar charging systems. I did a google search on... [thermoelectric usb charger] and found that there are a number of pots that can charge batteries while heating/boiling water, cooking food etc. serving two purposes at the same.

    Oh boy TEEJ, you're right there are scenarios where a still is the only way to insure safe water. That would be an entirely different discussion... heating the water to less than boiling to eliminate the more volitile nasties, and then covering and recovering steam idk enough about that to make any recommendations.

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    Depending upon the LENGTH of the SHTF scenario, batteries, even if rechargeable, start to lose function over time. Most humans are not nocturnal, and, if you are being productive all day, you sleep at night, not hang out with flashlights, etc. Frankly, as much as I love my lights, a campfire is quite pleasant for that purpose anyway.
    Maybe not nocturnal, but much of the year it's too dark to work by 5 pm.

    True, humans have lived long without flashlights, but they had many advantages which you ain't got. Like a tribe, like abundant resources and a healthy earth, like superior health and a vast repository of skills.


    Ideally, yes, you can work hard during the day and sleep when it is dark, but life ain't that simple, especially when you got no tribe. There are many situations that one can imagine when it is not possible or wise to be active during daylight but yet the work has to get done, and campfire light don't cut it.


    So, for our times and the modern human, good lights that will persist long after China is gone and in country commerce non existent are essential. 17 trillion $ debt

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    Seems to me that come crunch time and you're pissin into the wind what you really need as far as light goes is a very durable floody headlamp that runs at least on eneloops so can work with both hands. Not pure flood, and not all throw. As Eh4 has pointed out so well in his h51fc thread and as others have. Ideally, yes, a good hand torch for throw also but you can get pretty good at walking in the dark if good trails. What you really have to do is get a certain amount of work done in a 24 hour period that will at times have to be done under at least dusky if not dark conditions and using both hands saves so much energy.

    So new to this but so far seems like only zebralight in h51f/52f is efficient enough, small enough, but durability is wanting and has that side switch and of course china/asia resupply.

    Like what reppans has to say a lot about the Quark aax pro, It's transferability, but holding flash in your teeth gets old quick and is not floody. Good hand torch.

    Is there a mount made that would enable one to mount a torch like the quark in middle of head and angle it?

    Have tried the fenix torch strap but light comming from side of head doesn't put it where you need it and angle adjust clunky tho could live with that aspect.

    Who else? We need the malkoff of headlamps! Anyone know of one? Asian okay if necessary if the durability is there. Ideally an xp-g or xml emitter with an end mounted and thus replaceable switch capable of running on 1 or 2 aa and drop proof, water resistant, field serviceable, compact and backup parts available now.

    You know, if you could take a quark or fenix ld20 cause they have good emitters and only end mounted replaceable switches with the lens angled out so can mount on a forehead angle mount you'd be headed in the right direction. Then give it a memory like an ld22. An immense plus because on any given job you are just using one setting anyway and you may want to turn light on and off frequently to save juice and annoyance so would avoid all that clicking everytime you turn on. (one thing don't like about Zebra) failing that a way to turn on in medium one click. I.e, if a h51/52f had a memory all the button pushing would be more acceptable.

    I don't know. Just sayin. There's a few questions buried in this rant if anyone is moved to look for them and comment. Cheers!
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    Less hair splitting, more photos please
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    My SHTF light is a 6P with A19 extender, housing a Malkoff M61. I keep the extender attached, with a dummy cell, running 2x123's. This gives me full output of 235 lumens. However, I can do two other things: run 2xAA for decent, long running output, or remove the A19 and run 1x123 with the dummy cell, with reduced output and extending the useful life of my batteries.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeastFlashlight View Post
    I also wonder what OP means by SHTF. Because If faced with SHTF in an EXTREME sense your flashlight situation would have many viable options and be an inexpensive piece of the puzzle. Long storage food packets (expensive) and heat are HUGE obstacles! I consider the flashlight situation in SHTF almost as easy as your clothes situation (EASY). Almost unworthy of being in the SHTF conversation it's so easy. Food, far from easy
    OP asked specifically about a SHTF flashlight, not about the basic necessities for survival. I find it appropriate conversation given this is a flashlight forum.

    I'm sure there's a watch forum somewhere, where people are discussing the ultimate SHTF watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cland72 View Post
    My SHTF light is a 6P with A19 extender, housing a Malkoff M61. I keep the extender attached, with a dummy cell, running 2x123's. This gives me full output of 235 lumens. However, I can do two other things: run 2xAA for decent, long running output, or remove the A19 and run 1x123 with the dummy cell, with reduced output and extending the useful life of my batteries.



    OP asked specifically about a SHTF flashlight, not about the basic necessities for survival. I find it appropriate conversation given this is a flashlight forum.

    I'm sure there's a watch forum somewhere, where people are discussing the ultimate SHTF watch.
    Than for SHTF all I would care about is the best runtime. But still for SHTF i'm way more concerned about my battery situation. In SHTF i'm totally unprepaired and screwed! Flashlight is about #150 on my SHTF check list, i'll be dead in a SHTF week haha

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    I've reconsidered my answer. Previously in this thread, I mentioned a Surefire 6P with M61, and A19 extender with dummy cell. While I think that's still a great, versatile setup, I think I might have changed my answer to a Surefire U2 Ultra. Great mode spacing, runtime measured in days on low (175 hours), and an adequate high mode (140 lumens) that throws well. Not to mention it's all controlled not by tailcap or side button, but a ring around the bezel so you can select your output level before turning on the light.

    Also, I'm pretty sure it would run on 2xAA with an A19 extender. In fact, I'll try it when I get home tonight and post up here with the result.

    edited to add: I'm going based on the assumption that in this scenario I've stocked up on primary CR123's, which in reality I have... making "scrounging for batteries" an uneccesary task. Heck, with a box of 72 Surefire batteries, you could run the U2 on low for 6300 hours, or 262 days straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cland72 View Post
    I've reconsidered my answer. Previously in this thread, I mentioned a Surefire 6P with M61, and A19 extender with dummy cell. While I think that's still a great, versatile setup, I think I might have changed my answer to a Surefire U2 Ultra. Great mode spacing, runtime measured in days on low (175 hours), and an adequate high mode (140 lumens) that throws well. Not to mention it's all controlled not by tailcap or side button, but a ring around the bezel so you can select your output level before turning on the light.

    Also, I'm pretty sure it would run on 2xAA with an A19 extender. In fact, I'll try it when I get home tonight and post up here with the result.

    edited to add: I'm going based on the assumption that in this scenario I've stocked up on primary CR123's, which in reality I have... making "scrounging for batteries" an uneccesary task. Heck, with a box of 72 Surefire batteries, you could run the U2 on low for 6300 hours, or 262 days straight.
    Update: the U2 will not work on 3 volts (neither 1 CR123 with dummy, nor 2xAA alkalines). It works well on 1x17670.

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    PrincetonTec Attitude 4 AAA lithiums and Paclite.

    The Attitude is light, easy to hold, won't roll, you can swim with it, drop it in water, and long battery life with lithiums. Plenty of light for working. I figure the last thing I want are specialized batteries, high output light that uses up batteries in a couple hours or something that isn't totally waterproof.
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