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    This is a quick look at the Orbita Lighthouse Series Stainless Steel Flashlight.


    From Orbita's website.

    " Included in this package: One (1) Lighthouse Series Flashlight, Two (2) rechargeable 3.7 Volt Lithium-Ion batteries (2600 mAh), a two-channel 115 VAC battery charger, lantern base and a convenient nylon carrying holster.

    Orbita's Lighthouse Pocket Flashlight, powered by a high-energy rechargeable #18650 Lithium-Ion battery, delivers an unprecedented level of intense white light with great efficacy. The XLamp XP-G (Q5) emitter made by CREE, Inc. (a fine example of American technology) provides a high beam light output of 350 Lumens and is life rated for 100,000 hours of operation. It is protected by a sealed lens which is scratchproof and impact resistant. Structural components are all machined from 18/8 stainless steel bars. There are no flimsy stamped metal or plastic parts. Choose from Stainless Steel, Carbon Fiber or Hardwood bodies which are hand turned by North Carolina craftsmen and protected with a durable acrylic coating. Flashlights are dustproof and splash-proof to IP54 standard. There are six (6) user selectable lighting programs. By softly pressing the glow-in-the-dark power button, or double clicking it, you can scroll through and select any one of the six modes of operation (see table). Turn power on or off in any selected mode with a single click.

    Operation Mode * * * *Intensity * * * * *Duration
    Search Light * * * * * * Very High * * * *2-3 Hours
    Reading Light * * * * * *Medium * * * * *8-10 Hours
    Defense Strobe * * * * Very High * * * *2-3 Hours
    S.O.S Signal * * * * * * Very High * * * *4-5 Hours
    Lantern Mode * * * * * Very Low * * * 120 Hours
    Beacon Mode * * * * * Very Low * * * 150 Hours

    Length: 4 3/4" Diameter: 1 1/4" Product Weight: 7oz "


    Various models.





    I ordered the Stainless Steel version.









    Uses XPG Q5





    Has 8 Leds for lantern mode and beacon mode. Lantern mode all 8 Leds light up. In beacon mode 2 Leds lights and it moves in a clockwise motion.



    Reverse clickie switch. Memorizes last setting when shut off. High, medium, strobe, SOS, lantern mode and beacon mode.



    This is the lantern base. The rear tail cap needs to be removed then the lantern base installed tail cap screwed back on for installation.









    2 UniqueFire Li-Ion Rechargeable 3.7V 2600mAh 18650 battteries and a AC 100V-240V travel charger is included. I don't know if the batteries are protected or unprotected, it did not say on the batteries.







    A holster is included. It seem pretty heavy duty IMO.





    The light is very hefty due to it's Stainless Steel construction.






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    The Stainless Steel finish is excellent.

    The overall build quality is excellent.

    The beam tint on my light is a nice white color. Smooth beam with no artifacts. I do notice though when first turned on my light blinks after 3 seconds noticeable in high and medium mode. It does not blink in the other modes.

    I paid $100.00 shipped Fedex. It seems like a very good deal because you get 2 batteries, charger, holster and lantern stand. The deal expires May 31, 2013.

    If you want the other models they cost $50.00 more.
    Last edited by ernsanada; 05-08-2013 at 12:35 PM. Reason: Added pic

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    Somebody took the plunge!

    Now how about some beamshots?

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    Light blinks after 3 seconds? Does it stop or continue to blink?

    Also, from the pics, I'm not liking the rear clickie design. Do you think it would be difficult to turn on if one were wearing gloves? TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by buds224 View Post
    Light blinks after 3 seconds? Does it stop or continue to blink?

    Also, from the pics, I'm not liking the rear clickie design. Do you think it would be difficult to turn on if one were wearing gloves? TIA
    No it just quickly blinks. I have a couple of lights that will do that.

    I just tried activating the rear switch with gloves no problems.

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    The description Orbita say's "The XLamp XP-G (Q5) emitter made by CREE, Inc"

    Check this CREE XP-G Q5

    I don't know if it's a rebranded Ultrafire XG-V3. I don't have one to compare side by side.
    Last edited by Norm; 05-09-2013 at 04:45 PM. Reason: Added info with link

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    Now messing with the light I only get the quick single blink in medium mode only. It happens when you scroll through the light levels to medium and or turn it on in medium mode.

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    Orbita Lighthouse SS @ 126"



    Orbita Lighthouse SS @ 35' (High mode)



    Orbita Lighthouse SS @ 35' (Medium mode)



    Orbita Lighthouse SS @ 35' (High mode)



    Orbita Lighthouse SS @ 35' (Medium mode)


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    Quote Originally Posted by ernsanada View Post
    The description Orbita say's "The XLamp XP-G (Q5) emitter made by CREE, Inc"

    Check this CREE XP-G Q5

    I don't know if it's a rebranded Ultrafire XG-V3. I don't have one to compare side by side.
    Yes, but that is again very warm white, unlike the cool tint of your light. There are no cool white XP-G Q5s which is what made me think.

    Also, thanks for quoting my post. Disappointingly, it now seems to have been removed.

    It looks like the same light in almost every respect, and I would be willing to bet that it's the same OEM with a few design changes, added accessories and price mark-up. The lantern base is certainly a new addition though.
    Last edited by RedForest UK; 05-09-2013 at 02:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedForest UK View Post
    Also, thanks for quoting my post. Disappointingly, it now seems to have been removed.
    I thought your removed post posed a valid question. Also, I think the fact that it was removed is a form of answer to your question, as the removal of this post will be. Who knows if these are the same two lights, but we're not allowed to ask? The manufacturer seemed friendly and knowledgeable, and I was hoping to see a good discussion. This was a light that really looked interesting. I guess a frank and honest discussion is only possible if you're talking about a company that's not a paid advertiser of this board. I'm disappointed too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ernsanada View Post
    Now messing with the light I only get the quick single blink in medium mode only. It happens when you scroll through the light levels to medium and or turn it on in medium mode.
    According to the specifications here (with the assumption it's the same light): 'When in Hi mode, it'll flicker 2 seconds after clicking on the light, then click off immediately, do this again (off-on-off-on) and goes for F5 LED mode'

    The other review linked previously explains it like this:

    '1) Turn on in high mode -> Light flashes after 2s -> Quad click -> F5 (5mm) led mode (main led turns off, 5mm leds are on)
    2) Turn on in F5 (5mm) led mode -> Light flashes after 2s -> Quad click -> Main led mode (F5 leds turn off, main led is on)
    3) Turn on in low (Custom) mode -> Light flashes after 2s -> Quad click -> Ramping starts -> Turn off when desired level of light is reached -> Turning on memorizes this setting.'

    Do you know if your version has the ramping feature from low mode?
    Last edited by Greta; 12-10-2013 at 12:39 PM.

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    I don't see how it's even a bad thing if it's the same light with a whole bunch of value added, like a cool lantern base, wood handles and white LEDs around the ring. It was the lantern base that caught my eye. It seems a natural progression of the discussion to address the fact that it looks identical to lights by at least 2 different manufacturers. Why wouldn't we be allowed to ask that?

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    What's the problem? Two nice quality batteries, 33% discount - what's not to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedForest UK View Post
    Just that a little but more honesty/transparency would've been nice.
    That was my only issue as well and of course, pet peeve haha. The light itself looks interesting. If I remember, Orbita already said somewhere around here that they tried unsuccessfully to contact the original maker of the Gat light and went with another factory, presumably the only other known maker of this type of light. But I don't remember where they said exactly.


    What I think would be cool would be the value added stuff flashaholics normally care about, like efficient circuitry and good tint, and maybe a forward switch. The luxury stuff is nice, too, though, but I'd rather see meat and potatoes. For example, put a Nichia 219 in the center. That would give it high end cred. right there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedForest UK View Post
    According to the specifications here (with the assumption it's the same light): 'When in Hi mode, it'll flicker 2 seconds after clicking on the light, then click off immediately, do this again (off-on-off-on) and goes for F5 LED mode'

    '1) Turn on in high mode -> Light flashes after 2s -> Quad click -> F5 (5mm) led mode (main led turns off, 5mm leds are on)
    2) Turn on in F5 (5mm) led mode -> Light flashes after 2s -> Quad click -> Main led mode (F5 leds turn off, main led is on)
    3) Turn on in low (Custom) mode -> Light flashes after 2s -> Quad click -> Ramping starts -> Turn off when desired level of light is reached -> Turning on memorizes this setting.'

    Do you know if your version has the ramping feature from low mode?
    Now my light only flashes in medium mode. I tried changing different brand batteries but it still does the same thing.

    I tried the quad click in medium mode because that's the only mode the light flashes in but it will change to the other levels. It does not do what the other light can do customize your UI.
    Last edited by ernsanada; 05-09-2013 at 10:32 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Yes, there is certainly value added. The changes seem to have been in general well thought out.

    The switch from colour to white LEDs gives it a more classy rather than gimmicky appearance and is the main change in my opinion. The optional wooden handles also add a touch of class. The lantern base is a decent addition and the inclusion of batteries and charger (although not of high quality, but probably sourced via the same OEM; the non-orbita version has also been re-branded as the Uniquefire UF-F8) is useful too.

    The switch in UI confuses me a little, and seems not to have been fully implemented; leaving the blink in at med mode despite removing the functionality of it. If they had put a Nichia 219 or XP-G2 in there to distinguish it a little, and hidden the blinky modes like most high quality brands instead of switching to an alternative 5 mode scroll-through interface then they could have possible justified the price increase.

    As it is it just seems too steep for anyone in the know w/regards decent LED lights. Although it does look unique, and will probably sell to better off customers of the general public.

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    Looks like a Gatlight I had a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedForest UK View Post
    Yes, there is certainly value added. The changes seem to have been in general well thought out.

    The switch from colour to white LEDs gives it a more classy rather than gimmicky appearance and is the main change in my opinion. The optional wooden handles also add a touch of class. The lantern base is a decent addition and the inclusion of batteries and charger (although not of high quality, but probably sourced via the same OEM; the non-orbita version has also been re-branded as the Uniquefire UF-F8) is useful too.

    The switch in UI confuses me a little, and seems not to have been fully implemented; leaving the blink in at med mode despite removing the functionality of it. If they had put a Nichia 219 or XP-G2 in there to distinguish it a little, and hidden the blinky modes like most high quality brands instead of switching to an alternative 5 mode scroll-through interface then they could have possible justified the price increase.

    As it is it just seems too steep for anyone in the know w/regards decent LED lights. Although it does look unique, and will probably sell to better off customers of the general public.
    Thank you for this. How hard would it be to swap those outer LED's with some 365nm UV LED's? Or close to that . . . seems like then it would be more useful. Unless their placement makes them not directional enough?
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    I have one and just from the pictures it is identical. I swapped the colored leds for white Nichia's back when I ordered it from DX a couple of years ago. The stainless joints needed a little thread compound to make it stay tight. I use my light as a night light when at home and away. The battery compartment will hold a callies 3100mah protected cell. The UI is slightly different as mine is High/variable with memory/SOS/Strobe and then the eight outside LEDs all on or rotating two at a time.
    The lantern base is cool...





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    Added value to a Uniquefire? That's a cool idea, but the price seems high if that's what there doing
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    At a $100 delivered with charger, battery, etc., I'm thinking it could be a pretty good value - just ordered one

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    Just so everyone is aware. The Orbita is actually just a very poor quality Chinese light that Chuck (Orbita) has decided to "dress up" and sell for a massive profit. These lights are extremely poor quality and our short conversations with Chuck proved to us that he was not interested in selling high quality product. The cheep 5mm LED's around the outside are a joke as is just about every other component in the light. Our lights are made from aerospace grade materials with very high precision manufacturing quality. I just want to confirm, with out a doubt, that these lights are absolutely re-dressed Chinese Ultrafire Gatlight knockoffs!


    We have actually created a comparative study of the Orbita light and the Gatlight and if we can find some time we will try to share that with the CPF community. I'm sure you would all be very interested.


    As for Lumencraft, we have been inactive for a few years primarily because we are focused in other areas. Walter and I are still interested in creating another new design but we have to focus on the priorities. When Chuck says we are "out of business" that is simply not true.


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    Quote Originally Posted by LumenCraft1 View Post
    Just so everyone is aware. The Orbita is actually just a very poor quality Chinese light that Chuck (Orbita) has decided to "dress up" and sell for a massive profit. These lights are extremely poor quality and our short conversations with Chuck proved to us that he was not interested in selling high quality product. The cheep 5mm LED's around the outside are a joke as is just about every other component in the light. Our lights are made from aerospace grade materials with very high precision manufacturing quality. I just want to confirm, with out a doubt, that these lights are absolutely re-dressed Chinese Ultrafire Gatlight knockoffs!


    We have actually created a comparative study of the Orbita light and the Gatlight and if we can find some time we will try to share that with the CPF community. I'm sure you would all be very interested.


    As for Lumencraft, we have been inactive for a few years primarily because we are focused in other areas. Walter and I are still interested in creating another new design but we have to focus on the priorities. When Chuck says we are "out of business" that is simply not true.


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    Are there any alternatives to the Orbita Lighthouse available on the market today?

    Edit: Other than Lumencraft's Ti Gatlight as listed for $495.
    Last edited by NowIC; 06-26-2013 at 11:51 AM.

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    Got the Lighthouse in the mail yesterday. It came well-packaged with belt holster, charger, two 18650s, spare o-ring, spare switch boot. A screw fell out of the box when I was removing it but luckily I saw it, recovered it, and it threaded in fine. I'm diggin' the lighthouse mode and I'm impressed with the brightness and beam quality - kind of floody. The tint is a little cool, but very clean. It feels great in the hand and despite the loose screw, feels solid and robust. The machining and assembly appear to be well done.

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    Kinda surprised that folks were not bothered by this as is a similar situation to the Cool Falls Spy in comparison to the Niteye Zip20 (which they still sell just not in US markets I think).
    Keep it between the ditches and the shiny side up.

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    Well, having just reviewed one of these, and even more recently finding out this tidbit of information, I have to say I am rather disappointed. It definitely bothers me some. I will be looking further into this situation and potentially revising my review. Not necessarily the impressions, but likely the conclusions.

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    With the Zip20, they were directly competing with the original designer/manufacturer in the same market segment. The Zip20 was virtually identical and sold for a similar price, so it was taking customers away from the Spy. With the Lighthouse, the price is 20% less than the price offered by the original designer/manufacturer, it uses stainless steel instead of titanium, probably has lowered tolerances/build quality, and has multiple other changes. It is aimed at a different market segment. Most likely, anyone in a position to buy one of the originals would not be interested in buying the Lighthouse instead of the original. I don't think Gatlight sales will suffer. Additionally, the original manufacturer is no longer "active" and doesn't appear to be interested in expanding the target market segment to include this lower end so I do not see how the original is being harmed.

    I believe patents should be respected, otherwise I think it is fine for others to step in with alternatives that offer different materials, functionality and pricing.

    I became interested in the Lighthouse because of the white leds around the circumference (which give it the lighthouse effect). This was a legitimate enhancement in my opinion that was not offered by the original. While the overall design of the Gatlight is cool, I was not interested in purchasing one of them. It was only when I discovered the lighthouse function that I became interested.

    I don't believe the original manufacturer was substantially harmed by the action (in contrast to what may have occurred with the Spy). Just because someone comes up with a great idea, doesn't mean no one else should ever be able to expand on it.

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    Gatlights were available in Al, SS and Ti. Just like some Spy lights were. And its a direct competitor to the used market, as well as undercutting true ones. Its an rebranded light that sells for $55 on Dx.
    Keep it between the ditches and the shiny side up.

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    In answer to your question, the 18650 batteries are indeed protected. Cells are made by Samsung and the battery is rated at 2600 mAh. More details about this series and two NEW series Slimline and Goldlight can be seen at www.orbita.com chuck
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    Quote Originally Posted by NowIC View Post
    With the Zip20, they were directly competing with the original designer/manufacturer in the same market segment. The Zip20 was virtually identical and sold for a similar price, so it was taking customers away from the Spy. With the Lighthouse, the price is 20% less than the price offered by the original designer/manufacturer, it uses stainless steel instead of titanium, probably has lowered tolerances/build quality, and has multiple other changes. It is aimed at a different market segment. Most likely, anyone in a position to buy one of the originals would not be interested in buying the Lighthouse instead of the original. I don't think Gatlight sales will suffer. Additionally, the original manufacturer is no longer "active" and doesn't appear to be interested in expanding the target market segment to include this lower end so I do not see how the original is being harmed.

    I believe patents should be respected, otherwise I think it is fine for others to step in with alternatives that offer different materials, functionality and pricing.

    I became interested in the Lighthouse because of the white leds around the circumference (which give it the lighthouse effect). This was a legitimate enhancement in my opinion that was not offered by the original. While the overall design of the Gatlight is cool, I was not interested in purchasing one of them. It was only when I discovered the lighthouse function that I became interested.

    I don't believe the original manufacturer was substantially harmed by the action (in contrast to what may have occurred with the Spy). Just because someone comes up with a great idea, doesn't mean no one else should ever be able to expand on it.
    Thanks for your supportive remarks. First of all, Lumencraft has no patents, either utility or design type for their Gatlight. Early on, as part of Due diligence in entering the Flashlight market , I did very thorough research on that subject. In conversations with Walter of Lumencraft at that time, he freely admitted he had neither experience and/or resources to market his lights to the Luxury sector which is where we focus our activities. He was quite willing to have us do that marketing with his products. Subsequently, to investigate that possibility, I gave him target pricing that would work for me. He was not able to even come close and so discussions ended. Clearly, his manufacturing processes and costs in California were much higher than Asian sources. I guess Steve Jobs thought the same as Iphones are not made in California, but in China. Since then we have had good sales success in the Luxury market and have already added two other innovative series of luxury lights that can be seen on our website. Chuck
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    Gatlight too expensive for the luxury market huh?

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