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    FF4


    Basic parameters
    Color-temperature 4300K
    Light source flux Super high: about 6000 lumens
    High: 4000lumens Low: 2000lumens
    Illuminate distance (ANSI) About 1500m
    Reflector Tech: High purity aluminum SMO
    Focu: 8mm
    Depth: 27mm
    Features: large area search inthe middle distance
    Bulb life ≥2500hr
    Boot time ≤15s
    Size Length x handle diameter x head diameter:
    155 x 49 x 75mm
    Weight About 520g(w/o battery
    Main body 6061 Aerospace-grade aluminum
    Finish Hard Ano III
    Ballast AC
    Output power Super high: 60W
    High: 42W Low: 24W
    Thermal protection 24w when thermal protection kicks in
    Waterproof IPX7、IP67
    Power Supply Battery rack, user can change the batterys, short-circuit, reverse polarity, over discharging protection



    FF3

    Basic parameters
    Color-temperature 4300K
    Light source flux high: 4000lumens
    Illuminate distance (ANSI) About 1500m
    Reflector Tech: High purity aluminum SMO
    Focu: 8mm
    Depth: 25mm
    Features: large area search inthe middle distance
    Bulb life ≥2500hr
    Boot time ≤15s
    Size Length x handle diameter x head diameter:
    149 x 49 x 70mm
    Weight About 420g(w/o battery)

    Main body 6061 Aerospace-grade aluminum
    Finish Hard Ano III
    Ballast AC
    Output power : 42W
    Thermal protection 24w when thermal protection kicks in
    Waterproof IPX7、IP67
    Power Supply Battery rack, user can change the batterys, short-circuit, reverse polarity, over discharging protection


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    VERY nice pics! Thanks for that! Looks like the FF4 is a definite winner.
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    Hey Ethen, lovely pics!

    Just wondering, have you noticed any issues or bugs with the light, such as a whining noise (PWM) as seen in the first batch of FF3's?

    Thanks!

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    From those photos it shows the FF4 is a real upgrade over the FF3. Thanks for the very nice comparative photos.

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    Default Re: Fire-Foxes FF4&FF3 HID Reviews

    Excellent comparison photos!

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    Default Re: Fire-Foxes FF4&FF3 HID Reviews

    These pictures have pushed me over to order the FF4. I am wondering what service doing outdoor uses to ship to Canada. I don't want to deal with couriers because of the brokerage fees
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    Yes please! This will be my next light. Thanks for the review!

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    Thank's

    The first batch of FF3 (PWM),Is there will be noise.FF4 do not have this problem,very quiet





    Quote Originally Posted by ryansoh3 View Post
    Hey Ethen, lovely pics!

    Just wondering, have you noticed any issues or bugs with the light, such as a whining noise (PWM) as seen in the first batch of FF3's?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethen View Post
    Thank's

    The first batch of FF3 (PWM),Is there will be noise.FF4 do not have this problem,very quiet
    Good to hear, thanks again.

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    Default Re: Fire-Foxes FF4&FF3 HID Reviews

    Thanks for the review, this might just be the greatest light ever made. 500K lux and 6000 lumens from a 'pocket light' is just amazing. I wonder if a FF5 might be released with said 100W input and 8000-9000 lumens, would be possible with the upcoming 4000maH NCR18650s or IMRs. Then we will finally have near LarryK output and throw in a pocket!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yifu View Post
    Thanks for the review, this might just be the greatest light ever made. 500K lux and 6000 lumens from a 'pocket light' is just amazing. I wonder if a FF5 might be released with said 100W input and 8000-9000 lumens, would be possible with the upcoming 4000maH NCR18650s or IMRs. Then we will finally have near LarryK output and throw in a pocket!
    For a somewhat reasonably priced light of high quality not sure any thing is even in the ballpark but the ff3. There aren't many lights over 400 k lux and no pocketable lights over 5000 lumens. This light has both along with selectable levels and replaceable cells. If it works as advertised I would call it the best to date. I love the ff3 and this sure looks significantly improved.
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    i've noticed that in some photos the iphone is not catching the full brightness of the 60W mode and its making it look a bit like the 40W mode. the super high mode will be stunning to say the least IMHO

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    I wonder if the issue of the glass lens cracking under the extreme heat generated in super high 60w mode has been solved yet??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion_m8 View Post
    I wonder if the issue of the glass lens cracking under the extreme heat generated in super high 60w mode has been solved yet??
    I really hope this problem is addressed before the release of this light. I'm not too worried about it since FF lights has been around for quite awhile with their HIDs and so far I have not read any negligent behavior on their part as a manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jalal20 View Post
    i've noticed that in some photos the iphone is not catching the full brightness of the 60W mode and its making it look a bit like the 40W mode. the super high mode will be stunning to say the least IMHO
    Yes that's right, the iphone ability is limited,Can't fully display should have some effect
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    The ignition testing


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethen View Post
    The ignition testing


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    Default Re: Fire-Foxes FF4&FF3 HID Reviews

    Nice pics Ethen!


    Is that a camera lens cap you have on there?

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    Thank's

    Yes,This is a 67mm camera lens cover,FF4 head is compatible with threaded.

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    Nice pics Ethen!


    Is that a camera lens cap you have on there?
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    I just had a chance to play with my FF4 and it KICKS! There 2 things that bother me though, one is the light can't go back into 60W mode once you leave it. This means you have to turn it off and turn it back on to get to 60W. This is very inconvenient because once you turn it off you can't turn it back on right away. Second is you can't jump into 60W right after start up, even after the light has warmed up, you have to wait at least 30 seconds or more before you can turn on max power.

    Does anyone else have these same issues?
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    Is there any runtime limitations on 60W??

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    Quote Originally Posted by KuanR View Post
    Does anyone else have these same issues?
    Your light is behaving as designed. What's you're reporting is correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by jalal20 View Post
    Is there any runtime limitations on 60W??
    Reportedly it is limited to 3 minutes.

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    Hey Ethan, just curious how long it took to set the paper on fire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SICKLT1TA View Post
    Hey Ethan, just curious how long it took to set the paper on fire?
    About a one minute,I think if the blowing will be quicker
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuanR View Post
    I just had a chance to play with my FF4 and it KICKS! There 2 things that bother me though, one is the light can't go back into 60W mode once you leave it. This means you have to turn it off and turn it back on to get to 60W. This is very inconvenient because once you turn it off you can't turn it back on right away. Second is you can't jump into 60W right after start up, even after the light has warmed up, you have to wait at least 30 seconds or more before you can turn on max power.

    Does anyone else have these same issues?
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    Oh well, 40w is still very bright. For the price there's nothing else that can compare in output. I forgot to mention the light feels very solid and well built. My example came with perfect anodizing that feels just right
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    Quote Originally Posted by KuanR View Post
    I just had a chance to play with my FF4 and it KICKS! There 2 things that bother me though, one is the light can't go back into 60W mode once you leave it. This means you have to turn it off and turn it back on to get to 60W. This is very inconvenient because once you turn it off you can't turn it back on right away. Second is you can't jump into 60W right after start up, even after the light has warmed up, you have to wait at least 30 seconds or more before you can turn on max power.

    Does anyone else have these same issues?
    After turning it off and then back on, what setting does it revert to?

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    The start up setting is always 40w. With HID's, you shouldn't turn them on and off repeatedly (re striking it) as that shortens the bulb life. Which is why it's a bummer you can't switch between ALL power settings without cycling the light off first
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethen View Post
    Thank's

    Yes,This is a 67mm camera lens cover,FF4 head is compatible with threaded.
    Thanks for the tip, I just ordered one of these lens covers off ebay for $1.55!
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